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kpete

(71,991 posts) Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:44 AM Jun 2014

All adults should have the right to marry and divorce as they see fit.

Last week Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi filed a motion to dismiss one of her state's marriage equality lawsuits, saying that same-sex marriage would be "harmful" to the state. Several major newspapers have since reacted with commentaries blasting her position. From the Miami Herald:

All adults should have the right to marry and divorce as they see fit. That’s why, in another set of circumstances, I wouldn’t bring up Attorney General Pam Bondi’s two marriages and divorces – and her current relationship with a Tampa ophthalmologist, this time sealed, not with legal ribbon but in a well-publicized “non-binding” celebration in the Cayman Islands in 2012. Her marriages, divorces, and out-of-wedlock relationships are her business – not state business. But it’s hypocritical of this serial bride to use sanctimonious arguments to try to convince a federal court to dismiss a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union and SAVE on behalf of gay and lesbian couples seeking to have their out-of-state marriages recognized in Florida.

MORE:
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/06/florida-backlash-grows-against-ag-pam.html

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All adults should have the right to marry and divorce as they see fit. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2014 OP

i guess I agree Leme Jun 2014 #1

There really is no issue here...... Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #2

Thank you. theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #4

I think the issue, perhaps not here Leme Jun 2014 #6

The odd thing is that the "limited government" folks are the ones who want the government to have pampango Jun 2014 #3

Hypocrisy = a GOP specialty theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #5

Rise, sea levels, rise FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #7

Leme

(1,092 posts)

1. i guess I agree

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:01 AM

Jun 2014

I am for legal marriages, I just see a problem in that there are religious marriages also. Who gets to claim the word marriage, and dictate its meaning. Not me.

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)

2. There really is no issue here......

Reply to Leme (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:15 AM

Jun 2014

Marriage in a church without a marriage license issued by the state is not legally recognized. Members of the church may treat the couple as "married" and the couple may call themselves "husband" and "wife", etc. but their relationship will not be recognized for any legal purpose as a marriage.

Marriage is a secular institution. Heterosexual and homosexual couples should both be permitted to, subject to any other requirements such as residency, etc. on a non-discriminatory basis, be allowed to obtain a marriage license and therefore to be recognized legally as married.

If the couple then goes to a church, mosque, synagogue, temple, restaurant, bar, etc. and has a religious or other private ceremony they may.

But the religious or private ceremony has nothing to do with their legal status.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)

4. Thank you.

Reply to Swede Atlanta (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 12:01 PM

Jun 2014

It's quite simply, really. It's only the religious fanatics who are twisting this issue.

Leme

(1,092 posts)

6. I think the issue, perhaps not here

Reply to Swede Atlanta (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 5, 2014, 12:09 PM

Jun 2014

is whether marriage is this, or not this. And who gets to say what marriage is. It has varied through the centuries.
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I was responding to : state's marriage equality lawsuits, saying that same-sex marriage would be "harmful" to the state.
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Just like the quoted section...the greyed area. (The excerpt ? )