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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Americawhat-the-hell-is-wrong-with-us.htmlAmerica...what the hell is wrong with us?
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Over the weekend, residents in Hailey -- people who actually know the Bergdahls -- were ecstatic over news of the release of the town's native son. Now, the victory celebration is canceled, but the ugliness doesn't stop there:
"I just find that shocking," she said. "You know, were Americans, and we need to act like Americans, and to me thats un-American. Let things play out, and if there needs to be action taken, Im sure it will be taken. But thats not the city of Haileys responsibility."
This is a whole disgusting level below the normal day-to-day hypocrisy of American politics. These responses are the product of a moral sickness -- and most pathetic are the ones who call themselves pro-life or who obsess over what they say is the loss of freedom in this country, yet they'd rather see their fellow human Bowe Bergdahl lose his freedom or even die all because of their blind hatred of the man in the Oval Office. Look, if the Army wants to investigate the facts surrounding Bergdahl's disappearance then they should do that (I doubt it would result in more than a slap on the wrist in the reality-based world, but we seem to be losing our grip on reality...so who knows).
But the bottom line is that if you see a woman standing in the middle of the road and a Mack Truck bearing down on her, you don't stop to grill her on whether she just used heroin or left her child on a stoop somewhere. You pick her up and swoop her out of the street, and deal with the rest later. So should it be with saving Sgt. Bergdahl. For God's sake, where's the humanity? A couple of decades ago, two Inquirer reporters wrote an award-winning series and book called "America: What Went Wrong?" Today it's more appropriate to ask, America...what the hell's wrong with us?
Here's what one fairly knowledgeable chap said about the Bergdahl affair earlier today. We dont leave Americans behind. Thats unequivocal. That wasn't some knee-jerk Obama apologist in Congress, that was former Gen. Stanley McChrystal, Bergdahl's supreme commanding officer when he was captured in 2009, and -- if you recall -- not a big fan of the president. But he does know right from wrong. As noted here the other day, Israel traded more than 1,000 prisoners, including a sizable number of Palestinians detained for alledgedly murderous acts of terrorism, to win back just ONE of its citizens. Say you will about the Israeli government's policies, but the Israeli citizens value human life. I don't know what America values anymore.
Did Bergdahl make a horrible mistake in judgment, or worse, when he left his base? Probably. Did some American troops die in combat because of the search for Bergdahl or related events. Possibly. But we should also talk about the fact that we sent thousands of American soldiers into a war that has lasted a remarkable 13 years, and the longer that a war lasts, the more heartbreaking, soul-crushing things are going to happen. It's even more tragic when our leaders can't even articulate why our troops -- Bergdahl, the ones who went looking for him, the ones who will be there even after the war was supposed to end later this year -- are even in Afghanistan anymore. Today, Pennsylvania lost one of our own -- Capt. Jason B. Jones of Orwigsburg in Schuylkill County, killed by small arms fire in Jalalabad. Please take a moment and honor Captain Jones' sacrifice -- if you can hear yourself think over the sick cries of political blood lust.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)as Evil. Maybe Evil dupes, but Evil nonetheless. These are the same folks who would vandalize your car or house for having the 'wrong' bumper sticker or sign, who would threaten you and swear at you in front of children if you don't go along with the vile propaganda, and who apparently have no independent thought capability at all.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)It's irrational to think as they do, contrary to any proof against their tightly held beliefs on war, public assistance, economy, global climate change, and so many other subjects. Their paranoia about anything different and about their fellow citizens is telling - it is not rational to think they must carry guns every where, for instance.
I wonder if they react so strongly to people like Bowe Bergdahl BECAUSE he gained a bit of sanity about our war in Afghanistan. I think it frightens to see someone raise issues they don't want to consider so they attack rather than attempt to understand.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Can mental illness be contagious? Is it a product of wrong-headedness, or a larger social conflict? What gives these people (or any people, even the 1% Elitists) the presumption that they are in charge of everything, including other people's lives and happiness, freedoms and decisions?
Instead of just jogging along, trying to jump-start a dead economy burdened with parasites and a dead democracy burdened with fascists, we need to sort things out.
And that is what this Administration has manifestly failed to do. Instead of going to the mats for people, it's gone to the wall for Corporations. Criminal Banksters, especially.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)Certainly a warped perspective of reality is - look at the witch trials, the French Revolution, the Joe McCarthy era in Congress.
Today it's Obama Derangement Syndrome. Think of all the things that the Obama administration has done that if a Reagan or a Bush administration has proposed or done, the right wing nuts would have applauded. Instead they scream, "Impeach!" and froth at the mouth.
To a lesser extent there is ODS on the Democratic side, especially the more liberal edge - Obama hasn't done enough to save the country, hasn't performed miracles by getting the right wing nuts to pass needed legislation, and hasn't gotten everything done we had hoped for.
I don't think anyone could make everyone happy, and Obama has managed to piss off both ends of the spectrum.
Alex P Notkeaton
(309 posts)And they've been infecting the country from Day One.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)becoming crazy yourself.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)Unable to empathize with strangers and they let their emotions dominate their intellect.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)comes immediately to mind.
cilla4progress
(24,731 posts)It is a dark underbelly.
Viva_Daddy
(785 posts)Even if everything said about Sgt Bergdahl is true (and I'm sure it's not), extending the criticism to the parents is entirely off-base and disgusting.
Stargazer99
(2,585 posts)We as a nation have become heartless to the poor, powerless and lower-classes because the common man does not think for himself or honestly relate to God. The human must deal with his lower nature by choice or he becomes on the level of an animal (dog eat dog).
Those who die spiritually eventually kill a nation.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)There's plenty of evidence for that, from the earlier calls from congress to get Bergdahl out. Republicans want to get their people worked up about how releasing the 5 from Gitmo will make us less safe, but they have to then illustrate how getting our guy back wasn't worth it, or worse, why he didn't deserve it.
Yes, it's disturbing and disgusting to use Bergdahl is this respect.
On our own side, we have this issue where the government is spying on us, and that's pretty bad. No, I'm done making a distinction between listening to actual conversations vs. collecting metadata. This is bad, and it's dangerous to our democracy. Yes, Bush started it, and Obama continued it and probably built it up even more. But we have people on our own side who, now, will justify it, weasel around trying to show why it's just perfectly fine, and attack other people who speak against massive surveillance.
And again, it's all a matter of party. And it's just as disturbing and disgusting.
alsame
(7,784 posts)country anymore.
I know that sounds like a cliche, but it's true.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)This daily drumbeat of deserter, war criminal, etc has to stop. It is irresponsible and dangerous.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)fake news didn't mind putting abortion doctors in danger did they.
Leith
(7,809 posts)In the rare instances I have to talk to any of them, I calmly counter their vitriol with facts. It doesn't change their minds, but they don't keep screaming the crap for a while.
TRoN33
(769 posts)The superpower status allow our politicians to be arrogant SOBs and allow them to do anything and say anything they like to. They finally show their true face when Obama became our President in 2009. His election exposed these necromongers inside the power corridors of D.C.
Their latest comments regarding our recently released soldier are simply despicable and profoundly embarrassing this country.
beemer27
(460 posts)In a fair world, everyone would wait for the facts to come out. At one time in our history a person was innocent until proven guilty. It seems to have changed when we weren't looking.
Uben
(7,719 posts)...looks like they want to decide who lives or dies when we send our soldiers to war.
RIP Capt. Jones, American hero.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)signifying nothing.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)When the anguished father of one of the recent mass shootings said this, I agreed with him about the gun culture he was lambasting.
But on deeper level, what he said resonated with me in terms of what we've allowed this country to become.
His question should be a rallying cry to confront and push back the ugliness that defines who we've become:
Stop this madness; we don't have to live like this!
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)They probably are not ever going to be able to lead normal lives. I imagine that the family's joy at having Bowe finally released is now tempered with anguish over what has happened since. I wish Bowe and his family the best. How they are being treated now is a national disgrace.
Cha
(297,220 posts)are pushing the Uncaring part..
Fucking Time Mag..
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Poll says Americans are about evenly split on the deal that returned five Taliban prisoners for Sgt. Bowe Bergdah http://wapo.st/1kExf7D
5:13 AM - 5 Jun 2014
Americans are split on the Bergdahl swap and (of course) theyre...
84 percent of Americans worry that such negotiations could lead to further kidnappings. But that's no surprise.
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RainDog
(28,784 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)that's pretty much 95% of the problem
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)to the country I served for in Navy.