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A Target employee found a loaded handgun in the toy aisle of a South Carolina store last week, just days before activists began petitioning the retailer to ban firearms from its stores.
The gun, loaded with live ammunition, was found sitting atop a superhero Playskool toy box at a Myrtle Beach store last Friday, WMBF News reported Thursday morning.
"We take these matters very seriously and we are partnering with local law enforcement on this incident," Molly Snyder, a Target spokeswoman, said in a statement to The Huffington Post. "Because this matter is under investigation, we are unable to share additional information."
On Wednesday, the gun-control group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America kicked off a national campaign calling on Target to prohibit the open carry of guns in its stores.
The petition has dragged Target into a bitter fight between Moms Demand Action and a collection of open carry advocates in Texas, who were photographed toting assault rifles through a Dallas-area Target in March.
Videos and photos of affiliated open carry groups hauling their firearms into Chipotle, Chili's and Sonic prompted the restaurant chains to announce no-gun policies last month. Under intense criticism, C.J. Grisham, president of the group Open Carry Texas, has since backed down, asking members of his group to stop bringing their rifles into businesses.
"Assault rifles and guns don't belong in the baby aisle, they don't belong in the toy aisle -- and they don't belong in any aisle of stores that American moms frequent like Target," Shannon Watts, the founder of Moms Demand Action, said in a statement on Thursday. "It's time for Target, a store that American moms flock to, to follow the lead of Chipotle and Starbucks and prohibit the open carry of firearms.
For his part, Grisham, in a statement to HuffPost, suggested that "despicable" gun-control activists planted the gun.
"Target is currently in the crosshairs of gun control extremists who will stoop to [no] level too low to effectuate their agenda," he wrote in an email. "Our children are our most precious commodity and intentionally putting them in any kind of danger to exploit a personal agenda is deranged, sick and twisted."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/05/target-guns_n_5453164.html
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)It is idiotic.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)That is best case, other thoughts just make me livid.
So, I'll go with negligence for now.
calimary
(81,238 posts)Their rights are more important than ours. Yeah, I get it. That's what they think. Their "hero" NOT-joe the-I-am-not-a-plumber-but-I-play-one-on-TV-news-clips spoke loudly and clearly for all of them. His rights trump mine. I get it.
Which is why I will fight and defy and obstruct and loudly denounce assholes like this - to my last breath!!!!
When shit like this happens, I always find myself mumbling - "President Obama doesn't want to come take your precious goddam fucking guns. I do." I'm a MOM. When the kids won't play safely or properly with their toys, the solution is extremely simple: THEN THEY SIMPLY DON'T GET TO HAVE THOSE TOYS ANYMORE!!!! I go and fix it. I take those toys away. Problem solved. Message delivered. Period.
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)If nobody guns, nobody else would "need" one.
Syntheto
(297 posts)... that someone with a deep conviction that only by removing guns from general public ownership will we all be safer and prevent future Columbines or Sandy Hooks might have planted the gun? You simply cannot discount the possiblity, given the strong feelings and the timing. Who ownes the weapon? That should be a matter of record, or was the serial number filed off? Find out who they are because they either planted the weapon or it was stolen and they as the last owner should be fined for not having it secured from theft.
For the record, tax ammuntion based on a formula of caliber and propellant. Find out where the most instances of gun-related crime is by zip code. Set up military style checkpoints and weapons sweeps in those areas. Confiscate all unlicensed weapons, including those where the paperwork is not provided. Arrest all those without documentation for the weapon in question. Track down the last known owner and fine them for allowing the gun to have been stolen in the first place.
bvf
(6,604 posts). . . especially, "President Obama doesn't want to come take your precious goddam fucking guns. I do."
Warpy
(111,255 posts)but yes, it could have been false flag.
Likely it was completely disconnected with the attempt to get guns and ammo banned from the stores, it was just some sick fuck getting his jollies by imagining little kids finding a gun and pulling the trigger and killing people.
klook
(12,154 posts)Hope the store security cameras help ID the goon responsible.
Capt13
(62 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)You pay a guard minimum wage, you don't expect him/her to be responsible enough to carry a gun.
No, this is from some gun nut either being careless or trying to make a point.
Left it in the toy aisle where a kid can easily get it & accidentally shoot himself/herself and/or others.
Glad nobody was hurt.
But enough of this behavior & we'll get reasonable gun control in this country.
The gun nuts are making the argument for us.
John Lucas
hack89
(39,171 posts)They are in low paying jobs because that is all they can be trusted with? Really?
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)It might not be impossible but chances are you don't trust a gun to a low paid guard.
Because when you GET low paid guards you run a higher chance of irresponsible people in the position.
Somebody patrolling a Wal-Mart or Target is probably not gonna have a gun.
It's overkill. Puts the customers at unease.
Around a bank? More likely.
But the person at that job will only be a trusted guard who will most likely be paid more than the average guard.
They don't send newbie hires to jobs like that.
A person trusted with a gun at a high profile site either has experience in that field from another job (military experience) or has trained for it & has shown to be a more reliable worker.
Ain't no fresh off the street 21 year olds getting a job like that.
ESPECIALLY if they're paying them McDonald's/Wal-Mart wages.
Are all low paid workers irresponsible by nature? No.
But do you tend to get more irresponsible workers when you pay them low? You bet money you do.
That whole 'You Get What You Pay For' thing.
It's not to say that there aren't irresponsible people with higher pay but if you're paying minimum wage to, say, Secret Service workers, they're more likely to NOT protect the President than protect him/her.
I don't think that gun was left there by a guard.
Some customer did that. A thoughtless gun nut of a customer did that.
I would bet money on it.
If it was a guard, that would be his/her job right then & there.
If you saw a walkie-talkie left behind, that was a guard.
Not so much with the gun left behind.
John Lucas
xmas74
(29,674 posts)They don't carry-or aren't supposed to. Oh, and they also don't want guns in the store. Banning guns in the stores makes their job much easier, doesn't it.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)And abject ignorance.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)teach those mothers a lesson.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...it'll be a race between the bumbling idiots, the outright psychos, and the hair-trigger stand-your-grounders as to who's the greatest threat. My money's on the idiots.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)or at least can trace the weapon.
rocktivity
Brigid
(17,621 posts)villager
(26,001 posts)Lord God Gun always comes first
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)$300.00 (Saturday night special) at least, to make these loons look bad? Tell me another cheery story.
elias49
(4,259 posts)I don't think it's easy to get a 'clean' handgun. Whoever wouldn't want to just throw it away.
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)between $109.99 to $149.99, depending on the store. I still can't see someone spending even $100.00 for a gun just to leave laying around in a store, especially in a children's toys aisle, so a kid might pick it up and shoot someone. That would take one sick fuck and, if that's what really happened, I hope they catch, prosecute and jail the asshole for life.
"one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch" is quickly becoming a myth, as it seems like there's a shitload of bad apples falling out everywhere!
Peace,
Ghost
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Black market guns are a tad harder to trace, and I just mean a tad. It is just a myth that they are untraceable.
I would not be shocked if this was accidentally forgotten by a ccw holder or LEO, both have happened. My all time favorite was the air Marshall that forgot gun in bathroom in airport after security.
So I am not going to jump into ill intent until we have positive information here. Either way, bad apple. And as you said, it's now a barrel-full of them.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)leaving it as a present
Squinch
(50,949 posts)mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Let's see the video from that aisle.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm wondering if the pic is of the "suspicious male" they said was seen walking up and down each toy isle, or if they actually saw this man on video placing the gun there? Either way, they are trying to find out who he is in connection to the case.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)And honestly, they don't care how many die. Once people start to understand this, I'm hoping the sane ones will get off the fence and demand gun control. If you care about your children, any member of your family, or even yourself, it's time to stop this madness.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But the NRA worked hard to make sure the UBC legislation did not pass. So, you tell me, how are they not arguing for idiots to have easy access to guns?
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)to think they aren't on video? Why yes, yes they are.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Should be easy enough to tra--oh, yeah. Nevermind.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Of course, such sensible precautions mean that we're nanny-state gun-grabbers, so...
doxydad
(1,363 posts),,,it was left there on purpose.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)Cell Phones are looked for when they are lost.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)And I realize that not all gun owners are psychopathic and sociopathic. But those who carry their guns out in public are.
They would want to create fear and anarchy to advance their causes. They do not carry about the innocent lives that could be lost because of their ways.
These people are a danger to society and even the NRA is backing away from these dangerous nut jobs.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)busy accusing friends and family members of stealing his piece. In reality, he's just an absentminded, dangerous flake that set it down while looking at toys.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Hekate
(90,674 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)report he lost his dick at a Myrtle Beach department store.
Kablooie
(18,632 posts)A pro gun person could have left it accidentally but a gun control advocate could have left it to make a point about the danger of guns.
It would have to be a very deranged person to do such a dangerous thing though.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)who's worried about guns taking the lives of children, left a load gun in with the toys to prove a point.
Chakaconcarne
(2,446 posts)It's very fucking plausible and if it IS someone hoping to score points for gun control, they should be flogged for their moronic attempt to do so.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Probably was one of those open carry idiots who walked around with loaded weapons. It is a big stretch to think a gun control advocate did this, since the open carry idiots have been parading around with guns. They make themselves look worse than gun control advocates ever could. Totally agree with you.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)No.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)some twisted mind added water in an attempt to drown some little children.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)twisted. Who does that?? UGGHHHH
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)I just hate it that so many jobs have located to the Southern States like Georgia, Tx NC and Sc. They were transferred to Charlotte. Their best friend lives in Myrtle Beach.
Their leaders are the most irresponsible, stupid assholes on the planet and there is no hope of ever changing it. The worst part is that greedy business men indulge them and force workers into those states.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)his information with investigators. I'm sure they'd be happy to set aside some time for an interview
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)I've never seen anyone open carrying in a retail store.
That doesn't mean that such incidents don't happen, but what does this actually achieve? People openly carrying guns in a retail store is so rare that banning it doesn't change anything. If they're concealing the weapon, no one is likely to know anyway.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Dead kids are the price we pay, right?
Woo-hoo!!!
("Gunfuckers" in no way refers to any DUers or their loved ones.)
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)The ball is in YOUR court, Target. Time to decide whose business you want more...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)C'mon! Just a good old American guffaw joke! You know, the kind Americans make all over the world these days, Afghanistan, Iraq, you know. Just a good home-spun laugh! And if someone takes it seriously, we can just deflect it by saying it was good old 'Merican democracy at work.
(sarc to the hilt)
mockmonkey
(2,815 posts)A stolen gun sale done inside the store. Man pays for gun and is told it will be in a certain area and he can't find the fucking thing. He goes up and down the aisles but an employee finds it first. It's just as plausible as anything else I've read here.
Cha
(297,196 posts)activists planted the gun." Solid evidence of what kind of "open carrying" "despicable" idiot we're dealing with here.. as if needed.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)UPDATE: 1:45 p.m. -- A spokeswoman for Moms Demand Action responded to Grisham's allegation with this statement: "The insinuation that an organization devoted to the prevention of gun violence would plant a loaded gun in the toy aisle of Target is utterly ridiculous. Moms Demand Action is solely focused on the safety and security of our families and communities. Only one organization has a history of bringing loaded guns into Target -- it's not us."
Cha
(297,196 posts)samsingh
(17,595 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)The Myrtle Beach Police Department identifies the suspect as David Dennis. His is wanted on a charge of unlawfully carrying of a handgun in connection with the incident.
According to State Law Enforcement Division records, Dennis was previously charged with armed robbery in October 2013. The robbery charge was dismissed in March, but he pleaded guilty to assault and battery, second degree, according to the Horry County Public Index
http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/crime/article_cc12920c-f255-11e3-8245-0017a43b2370.html
A felon illegally carrying a gun - who would have thought.