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Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:25 AM Jun 2014

Shooting at Forsyth County (GA) courthouse

My hometown. I live less than 2 miles from the shooting site at the town square, county courthouse. Deputy shot in the leg, expected to survive, suspect dead, search for bomb continues.

Evidently, the shooter drove up on the courthouse entrance over the sidewalk and lawn, and just started shooting.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/deputy-shot-forsyth-co-courthouse/ngFsf/

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Shooting at Forsyth County (GA) courthouse (Original Post) Glitterati Jun 2014 OP
daily, daily, get used to it...more to come randys1 Jun 2014 #1
It's a certainty with this new "guns everywhere" law Glitterati Jun 2014 #4
No. Stupid human tricks like this have been happening for-ever, but are less frequent now. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #6
S I G H randys1 Jun 2014 #7
ANY excuse works for these gun nuts Glitterati Jun 2014 #9
"Nothing to see here, move along, move along..." Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #46
You are SO wrong it's not even funny Glitterati Jun 2014 #8
Yes, because driving to a courthouse enlightenment Jun 2014 #12
Yeah. I shot three people at courthouses just yesterday. onehandle Jun 2014 #15
Besides, this is GD: Guns Discussion. Sez in the TOS. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #26
every fucking day now. yodermon Jun 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #3
Way to jump to conclusions Glitterati Jun 2014 #5
wat NuclearDem Jun 2014 #41
Glitterati! Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #10
This is CRAZY! Glitterati Jun 2014 #14
Holy Moley Tsiyu Jun 2014 #19
I was reading DU yesterday, I think, and Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #21
So, now, this makes 2 guys from Eagle Creek Shores subdivision Glitterati Jun 2014 #23
Just called an attorney friend of mine who practices in the area. Laelth Jun 2014 #30
Dennis Marx Glitterati Jun 2014 #33
Thanks for the post. I appreciate your keeping us informed on this. n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #39
HOLY SHIT! The gunman lives in the subdivision I moved out of! Glitterati Jun 2014 #22
How's that guns everywhere law working cilla4progress Jun 2014 #11
Sounds like the law is a success. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #13
Exactly as intended - making this state the "Wild West" Glitterati Jun 2014 #17
Interesting how the bulk of of peace officers Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #35
This is EXACTLY what sensible cops were worried about Glitterati Jun 2014 #38
Joe (not his actual name) the Plumber (not his actual profession) Chellee Jun 2014 #50
Thanks! Glitterati Jun 2014 #52
No problem. Chellee Jun 2014 #53
Norcross mayor is scrambling to... Blus4u Jun 2014 #37
Its not in effect yet. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #48
No, no you didn't. Glitterati Jun 2014 #54
Exactly. Jamastiene Jun 2014 #60
I know. Glitterati Jun 2014 #61
He attempted to do some damage. Thank God for quick acting law enforcement! mfcorey1 Jun 2014 #16
Drove UP the sidewalk in an SUV, armed to the teeth Glitterati Jun 2014 #18
Scary, just scary! mfcorey1 Jun 2014 #20
holy crap! glad the deputy will be ok... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #24
Yeah, from the top of the new courthouse under construction Glitterati Jun 2014 #25
thanks for the heads up... ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #27
Welcome to Gun Nutz' America -- 24/7 shootings Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #28
Church schools, daycares, etc will all be on lockdown until Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #29
Is this a part of Gov. Deal's new guns everywhere law? mfcorey1 Jun 2014 #31
I have to wonder if putting so many guns put there is Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #34
That law goes into effect July 1, 2014, but Glitterati Jun 2014 #36
No its not in effect yet. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #49
Do you think it is going to get better AFTER it goes into effect? Aerows Jun 2014 #51
I'm glad this guy is dead. Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #32
Cellphone video of the shooting Glitterati Jun 2014 #40
Wow Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #42
Yeah, that's an amazing video Glitterati Jun 2014 #43
Thanks for posting superpatriotman Jun 2014 #47
They haven't even entered his house yet Glitterati Jun 2014 #55
SWAT also brought the bomb-sniffing dogs to his hotel Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #56
Have there been any Klan rallies there lately? KamaAina Jun 2014 #44
Not unless you consider the Tea Party the new KKK Glitterati Jun 2014 #45
CNN says he was former TSA employee in 2002-2003. nt. Sister to TxTowelie Jun 2014 #57
Hard to believe. Hour + drive to the airport on a good day Glitterati Jun 2014 #62
If only everyone was allowed to carry guns... Jamastiene Jun 2014 #58
The right-wing gun lobby billh58 Jun 2014 #59
And, the politicians will do nothing to stop them Glitterati Jun 2014 #63
 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
4. It's a certainty with this new "guns everywhere" law
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jun 2014

the legislature and Governor gave these whack jobs permission for just this scenario.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. No. Stupid human tricks like this have been happening for-ever, but are less frequent now.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jun 2014

.
It's just that with the Internet and modern media and communications, we hear about every last idiotic thing.

When I was younger, it had to be a pretty serious thing happening before it would make the news (print or broadcast), unless it was local.

People have this tendency to think that these things are more frequent these days, but all evidence is to the contrary, especially when adjusted for population growth.

No need to panic, keep working on sensible gun law reform, avoid the fear and emotion.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
9. ANY excuse works for these gun nuts
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014

They'd try to excuse the Crucifixion of Jesus if they could - as long as a gun was involved.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
46. "Nothing to see here, move along, move along..."
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jun 2014

The gunner's apologies for the deadly antics of their co-religionists get more convoluted every day.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
8. You are SO wrong it's not even funny
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

Explain this: Cumming has NEVER, ONCE had a deputy shot at the county courthouse.

EVER.

Don't tell me this happens every day, because I've lived here since 1984 and I effing KNOW better.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
12. Yes, because driving to a courthouse
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:07 PM
Jun 2014

with a firearm and shooting someone in the leg is just an "idiotic thing" that we shouldn't worry about, because gun violence is less frequent now. Come on, Skip - you know better than that.

The point isn't whether or not it has declined (most studies show an overall decline in violent crime since 1993, with a slight but still noticeable uptick since 2002). The point is how much there is - and the answer is too much.

The U.S. rate is more than 20 times the rate of Australia, France, the United Kingdom (excluding Northern Ireland), Israel, South Korea, Japan, Norway, Poland and Slovenia. The U.S. rate firearm-related deaths is closer to 10 or 16 times the rates of countries such as Austria, Denmark, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, New Zealand and Spain.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jan/17/lisa-bloom/americans-are-20-times-likely-die-gun-violence-cit/
(note: this is a fact-check of a statement - read through for the statistical links)

If you average the data collected (used in the above quote), it comes out to about 14 times more violent than the most developed nations.

No panic here (frankly, the only time I see panic is when gun-owners start shrieking about any kind of reform), but I think you're downplaying the problem a bit too much. Shooting someone - or even just trying to shoot someone - is not acceptable behavior. It is serious, regardless of who or how many are shot or simply find themselves in the line of fire.

Response to Glitterati (Original post)

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
5. Way to jump to conclusions
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jun 2014

But, thanks for making this situation just another political attack.

Frankly, I'm sitting in my home right now, in lockdown because I live in the city limits, wondering if the courthouse less than 2 miles away is going to blow up from a bomb.

Neighboring county is sending their bomb squad.

10. Glitterati!
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jun 2014

Come stay with me! I'm out about 5 miles west of downtown.

I just heard about it while picking my kids up from VBS. Got out before they went on lockdown.

My husband had jury duty just a few months ago. So glad he's not there.

How do you know that the officer was shot in the leg? Was that on local radio?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
14. This is CRAZY!
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jun 2014

I'm on several local websites, ForsythNews on Facebook, etc. and that's where I got the "shot in the leg" report.

Lots of new info coming out......guy drove up to the courthouse wearing a gas mask, threw a smoke bomb, pulled an AR15 and shot the officer. He was wearing a bullet proof vest. Had a court date today on drugs and weapons charges, his attorney quit on him YESTERDAY.

So, yeah, all wrong about an MRA idiot.......who knew? </sarcasm>


Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
19. Holy Moley
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jun 2014


Somehow I don't think this will help his case.

Been in that courtroom years ago. Used to live there.

Never heard anything like this.

Hope you are okay, Glitterati.


GUNWORLD - the new Theme Park we used to call the US



21. I was reading DU yesterday, I think, and
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

Someone posted that the Southern Poverty Law Center was saying that the DoJ is reviving their watchfulness over US hate groups. Forget foreign terrorism; the problem is with the McVay-types.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
23. So, now, this makes 2 guys from Eagle Creek Shores subdivision
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jun 2014

with bombs, etc. They are searching his house now.

Cop on TV just said "Full frontal assault. He came here prepared to stay alive." Sounds like a "Glen Beck survivalist."

Cops at the house are ASSUMING the house is set to explode when cops arrive to search the house. "We are quite certain it is booby trapped to kill officers."

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
30. Just called an attorney friend of mine who practices in the area.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

It wasn't his client, but that's all he knew.



-Laelth

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
33. Dennis Marx
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jun 2014

is his name. Sounds like the attorney negotiated a plea deal he wasn't prepared to accept. Says "he was a frequent gun buyer."

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
22. HOLY SHIT! The gunman lives in the subdivision I moved out of!
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

I just moved out of Eagle Creek Shores when I closed on my house in February 2013!!!!!

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
17. Exactly as intended - making this state the "Wild West"
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

I wonder what Sheriff Duane Piper thinks of his support for that law now?

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
38. This is EXACTLY what sensible cops were worried about
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

Of course, Duane isn't terribly "sensible" is he? I don't have anything against him, but who in their right mind wouldn't predict JUST THIS situation when they armed the citizens?

Who was it who just said that's WHAT the guns are for? To use against "the government."

Blus4u

(608 posts)
37. Norcross mayor is scrambling to...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

combine entrances to the municipal building and the courthouse, because licensed carriers are allowed to bring guns to city hall but not the courthouse.

Secondarily, other municipalities are looking at the impact of additional expenses required for staff to check for licenses.

The Georgia law is idiotic.

Peace

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
54. No, no you didn't.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jun 2014

Knock snark out of anyone.

These whack jobs don't need to wait for July 1, when it goes into effect. As evidenced today, they believe they have the right to take on their government and mow down as many as they can, thanks to this stupid kind of shit.

They don't care WHEN it takes effect - they think they won and they have every right to turn their guns on government.

Hell, I'd bet this guy didn't even KNOW the law wasn't in effect yet. Yahoos like this never pay attention to things like that. It's just full speed ahead.

And, our sheriff encouraged them when he said the guy at the soccer field terrorizing kids with open carry wasn't breaking any law.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
60. Exactly.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jun 2014

Even if they did know the law wasn't in effect yet, they would claim ignorance and get by with it. Stay safe down here, if possible. I don't know how, though.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
61. I know.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jun 2014

This is a sleepy little bedroom community. Shit like this didn't use to happen here.

I don't know how you stay safe, either, when gun nuts like this feel entitled to shoot up the courthouse instead of showing up for court.

As long as our politicians are terrified of the NRA, they are jeopardizing the safety of us all.

The Sheriff said today that this nut job was "well known to law enforcement." Yeah, well, then step up BEFORE they shoot up the damned courthouse, Bubba!

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
18. Drove UP the sidewalk in an SUV, armed to the teeth
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jun 2014

Gas mask, smoke bomb, fully auto AR15, bullet proof vest.

Was facing a court date today on drugs and weapons charges. His defense attorney QUIT yesterday.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
24. holy crap! glad the deputy will be ok...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

looks like I will have to drive home NOT through town...

the video looks like it was shot from the construction across the street...

sP

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
25. Yeah, from the top of the new courthouse under construction
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jun 2014

And, yes, town is CLOSED down.

I'd also suggest that Marketplace Blvd. at Turner Road is also closed since they now believe the gunman's house is booby trapped to explode when cops arrive. Eagle Creek Shores subdivision.

29. Church schools, daycares, etc will all be on lockdown until
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

This situation is resolved and known to have no other perps.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
36. That law goes into effect July 1, 2014, but
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

as far as the gun nuts are concerned, along with our local sheriff, it's in effect NOW.

Remember the gun nut walking around displaying a gun at the local ball field a couple weeks ago, scared the shit out of the kids and parents, and the cops wouldn't do a thing about him? Yes, same town. Sheriff Duane Piper, supporter of the Wild West Gun Law said he was breaking no laws.

32. I'm glad this guy is dead.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jun 2014

I'm also glad that I don't dress my car with political stuff. I don't have the money for repairing vandalism.

There's usually some old man with Obama-hating posters over on Maple Ave a block from the courthouse. Sometimes I give him a thumbsdown, but never flip him off.

I wouldn't mind living further in the mountains, but my guess is that there is a higher concentration of these bozos isolated in the mountains, "surviving".

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
42. Wow
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jun 2014

Heroic law enforcement. Look at them charging toward the firefight. Say what you want about cops, but not everyone would or could do that job.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
43. Yeah, that's an amazing video
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jun 2014

Frightening in it's intensity, but amazing to see law enforcement running TOWARD the threat, refusing to retreat in the face of rapid gun fire from the suspect.

superpatriotman

(6,249 posts)
47. Thanks for posting
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jun 2014

The updates say this loon was loaded up with homemade explosives, etc. ready for maximum carnage. Good on the the LEO's!

http://www.wect.com/story/25711859/shots-fired-at-forsyth-county-courthouse

A man attempted to take over the Forsyth County courthouse Friday morning, according to Forsyth County Sheriff Duane Piper.

According to Piper, Dennis Marx tried to walk into the courthouse with buckets of homemade explosives and ammunition. The sheriff said Marx also had smoke grenades, supplies and water.
 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
55. They haven't even entered his house yet
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:39 PM
Jun 2014

Since they believe it's booby trapped with explosives. The car he drove to the courthouse was filled with "buckets" of explosives. The subdivision where he lives is starter homes, most on a half acre or less, so I'm assuming they're doing an evacuation first. Lots of kids off school for the summer in that subdivision right now. There's no doubt it's a very dangerous situation for all involved.

56. SWAT also brought the bomb-sniffing dogs to his hotel
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jun 2014

Room where he has been staying for last 10 days. He's been at a Holiday Inn express, racking up some debt!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
44. Have there been any Klan rallies there lately?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jun 2014

I seem to recall one several years ago. KKK + guns everywhere =

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
45. Not unless you consider the Tea Party the new KKK
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jun 2014

They had their Tax Day rally on April 15th, but that's about it.

This guy was a well known "sovereign citizen" and had filed a federal lawsuit against the Forsyth County Sheriff's department alleging "murder" of a family member after they seized his home and properties when arrested on drug and gun charges last year.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
62. Hard to believe. Hour + drive to the airport on a good day
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jun 2014

Usually takes 1.5 hours to drive to the Atlanta airport from here, with traffic.

I can't believe this whack job drove that 5 days a week to work for the TSA.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
59. The right-wing gun lobby
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jun 2014

chalks up another "victory" for the obscene gun culture in this country. Yay NRA...

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