... looks like I won't get an answer.
Thanks jury

Really?

And when some guy guns down 20 children in a school, the reaction from the pro-gun faction is simply: "More guns! 'Cause freedom! And Second Amendment! And stuff!"

Some fumble-fingered hamhock blows open his own femoral artery, and the jury shuts down anyone who doesn't sob with sufficient intensity?

actually I didn't alert, thought about it but it was hidden before I made up my mind

So would you please define which deaths are funny/cause to celebrate and which are tragedies?

So far-
Child gunned down by maniac- tragedy (I consider any child killed by maniac a tragedy and won't lessen it due to cause of death)
fumble-fingered hamhock blowing open his own femoral artery- let's yuck it up (Did said f-f h have a family? ah who fucking cares- he owned a gun)

I'll let you take it from here

that he didn't shoot one of them.

As Stephen King once wrote: 'If you go out alone, you're a hero. If you take someone with you, you're dogshit.'

on the sympathy card you send to the family. I'm sure it will help their grief to see his death is a good thing once you put it in perspective

I have no problem making fun of them. Likewise, if you are texting while driving and run into a tree, no sympathy from me. But if his careless handling of a loaded weapon had harmed or killed someone else, I wouldn't make fun of the person who got shot.

The only person who got injured here, was the person who did the injuring and was pretty clearly doing something stupid in some form or fashion. It doesn't mean I lack compassion. It means I have very limited patience for people who do stupid things that have a high likelihood of causing injury or death to others or themselves.

And yes, this applies to myself when I do something stupid. I had an existing elbow injury on Friday and when I re-injured it working out, I absolutely mocked myself. Because I knew it was a bad idea to try to put weight on that arm, but did so in spite of that.

celebrating it is another. Would you be like others here and wish a fatal accident on every gun owner?

Should we tell his family to be happy as he only killed himself?

Sorry for your elbow. I understand as I cannot count the foolish injuries I have given myself

Or is one cause for celebration?

20 kids killed - don't touch my guns.

oh, wait!

sympathy for fools that carry loaded guns in cars.

Driving around with a loaded gun in his belt. What could possibly go wrong?

Since the NRA doesn't want the media to call these incidents "shootings" ... but murders.

NRA News Commentator Doesn’t Want Shootings to be Called ‘Shootings’
Americans Against the Tea Party

But yes, that would be accurate.

Winner for this week

He appeared to be lax with regards to gun safety. If he was that lax by himself he would likely be just a lax around others; this way he was the only casualty.

is as rude and as mean as any right wing board at times.

So does Darwinism still apply?

That said, sorry to his loved ones for the loss.

... Is a Stupid Guy With a Gun.

n/t

It is why I advocate for:

-Training
-Insurance
-Proper Storage

This is again, negligence.

but I'm not sure if some people should just not be allowed to have guns

I didn't read the article but I am wondering if he had the gun in a holster or just stuffed down his pants at the belt level and was trying

to take it out to caress it or show it the sites along the way?

Guns are still responsible for the killing because they are responsible for the propulsion of the bullet.
You throw a bullet by hand at somebody & the person won't be hurt (unless it hits them in the eye or something).
You let the gun rocket that bullet & BAM you got injury! Maybe death!

Now of course it takes the person to pull the trigger that rockets the bullet from the gun.
The person is responsible too. So people kill people.
BUT you give that person a feather & watch him try to kill with that feather...
...you'll be there all day & at best you'll cause laughter.
Even though you COULD kill with laughter because of breathlessness but that's a longshot.

Nope even WHEN people kill people, guns allow the people to kill more effectively.
MUCH more effectively. So the gun is at fault once again.
And I know what you're gonna say. What about knives, hammers, rocks, swords, bats?
They can kill but they're not quite as effective killers as guns are.
Guns are like remote control death while the other things are like having to walk up to the TV & change the channel.
Point & click vs. face to face confrontation.

ALSO those other things have multiple uses BESIDES killing.
Knives can spread butter, cut rope, even become a makeshift screwdriver.
Hammers drive nails to build buildings, crack open walnuts, help Mario smash barrels in Donkey Kong.
Rocks fill potholes, aid in building making, create zen gardens, become paperweights to keep papers from flying away with the wind.
Swords ARE pretty much for killing specifically but COULD be seen as just an overgrown knife. Still not quite as effective as a gun in killing because the lack of 'remote control point & click' aspect. You can run from a sword attack.
Bats? How are you gonna play the World Series without bats? Little League will be ruined without them. And like a sword you can still run away from a bat attack. No remote control point & click powers there either.

Nope guns are specifically made for killing & pretty much are only used for just that.
Yeah you COULD use a gun as a paperweight but there's no reason to create such an elaborate device just to hold down papers.
A common rock would do just fine. So would a book. So would canned vegetables.
Guns DO have that kill at a distance remote control point & click aspect so many other weapons & tools lack.
And if they're automatic or semi-automatic it's like broadband!
It's like you at work entering a voice command into your smartphone which sets your TV on a certain channel at home before you get there!
Wi-Fi 4G death!! AWESOME!!

Now bombs kill more massively than guns but they're sort of unwieldy.
Takes time to construct a bomb & then you gotta plant it somewhere.
Hard to conceal & hard to whip out at a moment's notice.
The prep time involved for a bomb attack is way longer than an nearly instantaneous gun.
That's the drawback even though it does have more death potential.

A car? Well yeah these things kill.
I'm seeing the Tracy Morgan story right now. Horrible.
But it takes time for a car to get to a high enough speed to cause death with its mass & velocity that it makes a terrible on-the-spot weapon.
Wives & husbands who in anger try to run over their spouses have to set it up & be able to accelerate quick enough to make the hit.
Key in the ignition & the acceleration time makes it more unlikely.
AND cars can only run on certain terrain. Get into a narrow spot or a higher surface & a car is useless.
Once going of course cars can be deadly but even then if you're alert & aware you can escape a car attack or a car collision.
I have done it many times dealing with reckless drivers.
Defensive driving & all that.
Besides cars are designed for transport primarily. Killing is just a side function because of its mass.
Apply similar standards for boats, trains, & airplanes.

Nope when it comes to ol' fashioned quick efficient effective death, nothing's better than a gun.
One day in the future we might get the high-tech gun known from Star Trek as the Phaser.
That will be one HELL of a killing weapon but Starfleet Protocol always demands that you set phasers to stun.
You probably can't get your hands on one of these easily without going through hella red tape.
You gotta pass the entrance exams at Star Trek's West Point to even have a chance.

Yeah until that day we just have the modern-day gun.
And because of all I elaborated with on this post, Guns DO Kill People.

John Lucas

but I guess my tongue in cheek was unreadable (my post). I meant to infer that we would hear that "guns don't kill people, people kill people" and there should be no check on the stupidity of people preventing them from owning guns.

We are on the same side my friend.

I missed the sarcasm signal on your post. Sorry about that.
But I wrote that post for future arguments for this site & beyond.
I had to organize my thoughts on the subject & make it the definitive rebuttal whenever anybody uses that line.
When I hear that "Guns don't kill people. People kill people" line, I'll now have this ready for the counter.

I won't have to search for words making a partial unorganized argument.
Now I'll have a comedic counter-argument ready to slap on 'em all polished & edited.

Sorry for missing the sarcasm, onethatcares.
That post was not specifically aimed at you personally.
I was just challenging the "Guns don't kill people" line.
John Lucas

if other people had been hurt in this event it wouldn't be so funny, like if he hit someone else or if there were children involved.

But other people weren't hurt.

His father, who passed away 2 years ago, was a former Sherrif of Meigs County. He was active in his church and at his son's track events. Yeah, I live in the same County, and he graduated 2 years after I did. I hope his family isn't reading here, or members, as his father was a past chairman for the Meigs County Democratic Party.

R.I.P. Tony

Peace,

Ghost

In fact, I wish he hadn't've royally fucked up and left all those nice folks grieving.

You wanna be mad at someone? Be mad at the guy who did it.

The investigation is ongoing so there aren't any solid answers yet. I'll try to find out more... and this is a VERY small town, so people will be talking... it's just a matter of who to trust and believe. I have full faith that Detective Scottie Wiggins will get to the bottom of things, though.

BTW... I'm not mad at you, either. What in the world ever gave you the idea that I was?


Peace,

Ghost

I was being kneejerk defensive, even though I know better.

Sorry about that, friend.

Peace to you and yours, Iggo!

Ghost

Someone is dead ... he may have been a good person (regardless of how deluded he was about guns), people loved him .... I hate guns with every fiber of my being, but can't find the senseless loss of life funny

JHC.. the freaking grave dancing is pathetic.

Right after Sandy Hook he was proclaiming about "a good man with a gun", can you imagine the hurt the families of young little kids who was just mowed down by a gun felt. Did you clue the NRA into how insensitive this would be to the parents? Why doesn't the NRA spend as much money on teaching gun safety as they do trying to get more dumb laws on the books to protect the manufacturers? If more attention was given by the NRA perhaps this shooting may not have occurred.

I find their politics odious, but they still do more than the Astroturf Moms, etc. do

http://eddieeagle.nra.org/

http://training.nra.org/

http://training.nra.org/nra-gun-safety-rules.aspx

The nuts running around to restaurants in Texas.

The manner in which they did/do so is decidedly antisocial, but open
carry in and of itself is not inherently unsafe.
You claimed to be a gun owner over in the other forum...

I am not surprised since you were correct about Lil' Wayne and the OC jerks not doing anything unsafe. It is very interesting the so called "gun safety" groups do not teach gun safety but the evil NRA does.

...that lot in particular. You'd think that the ghost town that is GCRA might have
given them a clue that they're not actually in the mainstream...

Of course when it's a gun owner most don't mind. Many people are happy to laugh at death if it's a "toter"


Serves em' right....amiright? yes I am. Gun death outrage turns to glee if the right folks die...

the people that love him hurt. a life gone too soon.

mostly this thread is about callous.

Deadly, even.

He could even have family on DU. Would it be just as funny if he was bi-polar and had committed suicide? Or if he had died of a heroin overdose?

I think it is incredibly hurtful to laugh at this, and I strongly support the government seizing all firearms and melting them down -- a complete and total repeal of the 2nd.

Not for the guy's death.

Welcome to DU!

This man wins the Darwin award for stupidity.

He was the one with the careless weapon - better him than some person in another car.

That he was the one that was "careless with a weapon." "The one with a careless weapon" just doesn't make any sense. Just being brutally frank.

We are a society that invented the term "Darwin Award" and then popularized it. Laughing at and mocking people for dying in unusual ways, or for dying while doing something for which we do not "approve" is fully accepted and embraced here, and on the rest of the Internet.

I'll be quite happy with the Human race when they manage to either lose interest in it, or excise it from common use.

Too bad he can't come back to life and do a PSA on keeping your finger off the trigger.

. . . don't know why you thought it appropriate for a joke and the laughing icon.

a laughing icon on the post because he was a bad driver?

Don't worry, GD (Guns Deplored) will keep this afloat till some folks start to ghag.

Nuclear unicorn is right.

safety courses and rigorous testing to make sure owners know how to handle a weapon?

And now he will be in it...I'm always sorry when someone dies, but I have no sympathy for stupid and playing with a loaded gun while driving is mind numbing stupid.

A quality holster designed for the individual handgun secures it properly and safely.

... of another responsible, law-abiding gun enthusiast.

I can only imagine if the vegans of this board when full tilt dipshit and laughed at every person who mentioned something about losing someone to heart disease (or anything else potentially diet-related). "Just another meat eater payin' the price! Yuk yuk yuk!"

Anyone want to laugh at someone with lung cancer?

Fucking ghouls.

So...what do you mean by that?

real funny

But I just don't see the hilarity in any case when somebody dies

Quite frankly I have no sympathy for anyone who does something like this. The only good thing is that he didn't take anyone else with him.

sorry; this guy was AN IDIOT.

This fool could have a caused a mass collision after he shot himself.
A multi-car pileup that could have killed many others because of his stupidity & recklessness.

To hell with what the gun nuts want!
Crack down on these damn guns!
Make it so hard to get a gun that people give up trying.
Most people just ain't responsible with guns & that's the bottom line.

If this idiot was a responsible gun owner, he would have his gun in his glove compartment where it belonged.
He has a permit but what were the qualifications for that permit?
Just pay a minor fee & get your license?
How often is a person tested & retested once they get the permit?

Sick of all these Yosemite Sams running around!
I once thought the character Yosemite Sam was a exaggerated caricature for comedic effect.
Come to find out it was Social Commentary!
The Looney Tunes writers were ahead of their time.

John Lucas

I do not understand the fascination with showing off/carrying a gun at all
times--especially not secured.

Very sad for his family. It didn't have to happen.

Do you gain as much pleasure when someone accidental OD's on heroin?

Oh wait it was not there, someone dies and he is rofling.

Do you always laugh at people who die by accident?

Who knows? Maybe if he lived his mind would have been totally changed about guns?

There is nothing funny about this. It is tragic.

Stood his ground
Darwin Award
Gun nuts..
Blah, blah, blah.

Wonderful people taking the time to have a bit of fun at a mans death. Thank the internet for people lack of compassion. Not a one of these would be said in polite company. I don't care if you're pro/anti gun, people should show some compassion for a life lost. No,no,no...we must post a clichéd response and needle others while doing it. Gross.

NOT for the guy's death. Kthxbai.