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alp227

(32,023 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 03:43 PM Jun 2014

Truck driver who injured Tracy Morgan in crash drove for WAL-MART

From the AP:

The National Transportation Safety Board said it was working with state police to look at any issues in the crash related to commercial trucking and limousine safety.

Walmart President Bill Simon said in a statement a Walmart truck was involved and that the company "will take full responsibility" if authorities determine its truck caused the accident.

"We're praying for the family and friends of the passenger who lost his life in the terrible accident" the statement said.


OK Bill. I wonder if it is because of your company's anti-worker policies? I wonder how many hours the truck driver was working before the crash.
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MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
1. I imagine the state police will be looking closely at the
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 03:46 PM
Jun 2014

driver's log book. Don't you? I'm sure we'll hear what they find.

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
3. Yup. Blaming Walmart for some highway accident without
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jun 2014

any real information is pretty lame, I think. The information will come out on this crash. Then, we'll know something. Right now, we only know that there was a crash. Beyond that, we have almost no information yet.

It's easy to blame Walmart. None of us likes Walmart. But, we don't know that Walmart had anything to do with this. Jerking our knees does not promote justice, I think.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
4. Well it gives the Right Wing an opportunity to rightly criticize us especially if what you stated
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jun 2014

is true.. They pull this crap daily and as much as I hate restraint in such matters, I never want to give them an inch.. Bastards! all of em..

MineralMan

(146,307 posts)
5. I'm always in favor of waiting for factual information before
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jun 2014

forming a real opinion about just about anything. I've seen too many situations where people have jumped the gun, only to look sort of stupid later.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
8. But mostly with an element of truth.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

Really its about the excitement of discovery and spreading the news..

With the Right Wing... They make up the lies and then report on them.. Taking this conversation we are having to another dimension...

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
9. First of all, I doubt Walmart overworked the drivers.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jun 2014

Employers are as responsible for the hours of service as is the driver. If hours of service are violated, both can be fined.

Lets look at the problem. The company is responsible for assigning a route that can be completed in a time frame within the 11 hours per day. But the company has no way to know if the driver spent the prior evening playing cards, watching television all night, getting laid all night or whatever. The company also has no way to know if the driver has sleep disorder.

On the other hand, if the driver was overworked, there is the log. Walmart may also require electronic logs. If sleep was a problem, there are recording devices on tractors that monitor the braking of the truck-- drive--- suddenly hit the brake.....drive---suddenly hit the brakes. This pattern is evidence of a fatigued driver. Cars are not monitored in this manner.

Drinking and drugging are another situation. The driver was given a drug and alcohol test. The results of that will be furnished in a day or two.

If the driver was fatigued or abusing a substance, I hope it is proven. But I doubt that Walmart has responsibility in this one.

alp227

(32,023 posts)
11. But you can't rule anything out on Walmart's part,
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:26 AM
Jun 2014

given the company's history with employee treatment.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
13. Walmart
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014

would hardly be the first, last, or only company to have truck drivers flaunting work hour rules. Far from it. I don't remember this line of discussion a month ago when a Fed Ex truck incinerated a tour bus full of kids.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
10. They very fact that Simon would say such a thing is a bad omen for them
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sun Jun 8, 2014, 06:41 PM - Edit history (2)

New York Times: On Saturday evening, the driver of the tractor-trailer, Kevin Roper, 35, of Jonesboro, Ga., was charged with one count of death by auto and four counts of assault by auto, according to the Middlesex County prosecutor’s office. Mr. Roper is being held at the Middlesex County jail...a spokesman for the New Jersey State Police, said. His bail was set at $50,000.

The preliminary investigation by the state police found that Mr. Roper, who was traveling north in the center lane of the highway, failed to observe slow-moving traffic ahead of him, Sergeant Williams said. Mr. Roper noticed the traffic at the last minute and tried to swerve, but he still struck the van.


According to CNN, he's paid bail -- with Walmart's help? Or Simon planning to "take responsibility" only if the truck is MECHANICALLY at fault?

Well, there you go -- it was the Walmart truck driver's fault, not the Walmart truck. Hooray for me!


rocktivity

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
14. Usually you only have to pay 2.5-5% of the bail.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

A $50k bail would require him to pay between $1250-$2500 which he would lose if he didn't show up in court.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
12. UPDATE: Driver handn't slept in previous 24 hours
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

According to NBC Philadelphia:

The Walmart truck driver who slammed his big rig into the back of a limo bus carrying actor Tracy Morgan and six others, killing one and critically injuring several passengers, hadn't slept for at least 24 hours when the crash happened, according to a criminal complaint.

Kevin Roper, 35, did not see slow moving traffic ahead of him in the northbound lanes of the New Jersey Turnpike in Cranbury, N.J. on Saturday morning until the last minute, New Jersey State Police said. Investigators have not said if Roper fell asleep behind the wheel, but cited the sleep deprivation as a factor in the charges against him.

Studies have found drowsy driving can be as dangerous as driving drunk. A driver who stays awake for about 24 hours is as impaired as a person with a 0.10 percent blood alcohol level...That's legally drunk in all 50 U.S. states.

The Middlesex County Prosecutor's Office is leading the investigation with help from New Jersey State Police and the National Transportation Safety Board...Roper (is) set to be arraigned in a Middlesex County, N.J. court...Wednesday (6/11/14) at 3 p.m.



rocktivity

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
15. Next question: Why?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jun 2014

The electronic logbooks trucking fleets run do two things: start recording automatically when the truck moves more than a couple hundred feet (they're set up so a driver can move to a different spot in a parking lot if he needs to, but not so he can move to a different truck stop) and continually report back to dispatch's computer. They can't be fudged like paper logs. And if the guy was driving illegally we'd know...so what was he doing, watching a 24-hour porn marathon on his sleeper berth tv?

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