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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 05:13 PM Jun 2014

Obama Admits That He Wants to Go Off On Republican Climate Change Deniers

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/08/obama-admits-republican-climate-change-deniers.html

Obama Admits That He Wants to Go Off On Republican Climate Change Deniers
By: Jason Easley
Sunday, June, 8th, 2014, 4:50 pm


During an interview with The New York Times, President Obama admitted that the Republican anti-science climate change deniers are frustrating and that he wants to go off on them.

Here is the exchange between Thomas Friedman of the Times and the president:

Do you ever want to just go off on the climate deniers in Congress?

“Yeah, absolutely,” the president said with a laugh. “Look, it’s frustrating when the science is in front of us. … We can argue about how. But let’s not argue about what’s going on. The science is compelling. … The baseline fact of climate change is not something we can afford to deny. And if you profess leadership in this country at this moment in our history, then you’ve got to recognize this is going to be one of the most significant long-term challenges, if not the most significant long-term challenge, that this country faces and that the planet faces. The good news is that the public may get out ahead of some of their politicians” — as people start to see the cost of cleaning up for hurricanes like Sandy or the drought in California — and when “those start multiplying, then people start thinking, ‘You know what? We’re going to reward politicians who talk to us honestly and seriously about this problem.’ ”

The president added: “The person who I consider to be the greatest president of all time, Abraham Lincoln, was pretty consistent in saying, ‘With public opinion there’s nothing I cannot do, and without public opinion there’s nothing I can get done,’ and so part of my job over these next two and a half years and beyond is trying to shift public opinion. And the way to shift public opinion is to really focus in on the fact that if we do nothing our kids are going to be worse off.”


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Republicans are living in their own reality that is defined by whatever their big money donors tell them it is. When the anti-science religious right wing of the party is added into the mix, the result is a group of people who have no interest in dealing with fundamental reality, much less the future of the planet.

It was nice to hear that the president shares the same frustrations as the non-Koch owned and science embracing majority, and POTUS offered an attractive remedy to the nation’s current problem.

Voters must start rewarding politicians who are living reality, and throwing out those who have been blinded by Koch dollars and anti-science pandering.
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Obama Admits That He Wants to Go Off On Republican Climate Change Deniers (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
That is an absolute requirement n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #1
They're dispicable.. denying Climate Changers for Kochs. Cha Jun 2014 #2
... but yeah, let's wait til year 6 to do anything about it.... Myrina Jun 2014 #3
my thought exactly stupidicus Jun 2014 #5
Problem is: RobertEarl Jun 2014 #4
Not entirely true WestCoastLib Jun 2014 #8
Perceived freedoms? Drastically changed? RobertEarl Jun 2014 #10
It'll be news when he does. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #6
You remember they (GOP) said they make their own reality? kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #7
Why has Obama boasted about rising U.S. oil production? Broward Jun 2014 #9
When they say 97% of Climate scientists believe that global warming is real, and that the climate Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #11
Who are "they"? nxylas Jun 2014 #12
I wish he would. nt RiffRandell Jun 2014 #13
Obama & Co know they can't IkeRepublican Jun 2014 #14
Democratic pols should never make what Republicans might/will say a criterion (or an excuse) merrily Jun 2014 #15
Maybe it's way past time to start going off raindaddy Jun 2014 #16
Sometimes I feel the same way, Then I remember they are job creators. Hail, hail mighty creators! raouldukelives Jun 2014 #17
 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
5. my thought exactly
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jun 2014

as soon as the EPA changes were announced I couldn't help but wonder why they weren't made a few years ago.

It's hard to see how that can be blamed on the repubs or the "Art of the politically possible".

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. Problem is:
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jun 2014

To do something with any substance to correct global warming means our lifestyle would significantly change.

Do nothing and we can just go on living this way.

Go ahead, ask what 'living this way' entails, if you haven't a clue...

WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
8. Not entirely true
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:26 PM
Jun 2014

There are ways we can stem, and even reverse, climate change without the need to use less energy.

However, we must take drastic measures to do so. Measures that likely get get into the real of the need to drastically change our way of governance and perceived freedoms.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Perceived freedoms? Drastically changed?
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jun 2014

Hey! You almost get it.

It would take an enormous amount of energy to reverse climate change being that Geo-engineering or co2 removal would be the only way to reverse the changes coming.

The science is that the amount of co2 we presently are pumping into the atmosphere will continue to absorb heat for 40 years. That means that last years co2 will help heat the planet for 39 years. The 2012 co2 for 38 years. Etc.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
7. You remember they (GOP) said they make their own reality?
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jun 2014

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove[1]):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."[2]

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. When they say 97% of Climate scientists believe that global warming is real, and that the climate
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jun 2014

changes we have been experiencing are primarily man-made, what they usually fail to state is that the other 3% of scientists work for RW think tanks or universities that are the recipients of large donations from the Kochs, American Petroleum Institute, oil companies, and last but certainly the worst, The U.S. Chamber of Commerce. There are no UN-biased scientists, or scientists without a clear conflict of interest who are denying climate change is man-made.
Unfortunately, our MSM is paid to sew confusion in this area and do not seem to care to point out that there is no one who is legitimate and credentialed that is denying climate change is man-made!

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
12. Who are "they"?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jun 2014

The climate change deniers' creation of their own reality extends to making up their own statistics. I saw one on an internet comments thread (I know, I know) who just kept repeating over and over again that "only 43% of REAL climatologists" believe that climate change is man-made. No, of course he never explained where he got that figure (his ass), or what a REAL climatologist is (if it's one from the Koch-funded think-tanks, then that figure actually seems kinda high).

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
14. Obama & Co know they can't
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jun 2014

The RW will scream, "Oh, angry black guy!"

Given their treatment of Bergdahl, I feel playing the race card isn't below them. Particularly during a mid term year where they're doing anything and everything to get their Banjostan droolers out to vote for them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
15. Democratic pols should never make what Republicans might/will say a criterion (or an excuse)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:26 AM
Jun 2014

for not doing the right thing. Neither should Democratic voters who are not politicians.

BTW, if you are worried about the race card, maybe you should read Justice Earl Warren's autobiography for some of the racist things Ike to him after the SCOTUS school integration decision. And maybe also some articles about how Ike dragged his heels on enforcing that decision, until he felt he couldn't drag them any longer.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
16. Maybe it's way past time to start going off
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jun 2014

Our very existence is threatened by climate change , sometimes "going off" is part of being a leader.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
17. Sometimes I feel the same way, Then I remember they are job creators. Hail, hail mighty creators!
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:37 AM
Jun 2014

Just too bad all that creating wound up killing our natural world. But, gotta look forward.

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