By the time more police arrived on the scene at Walmart, this shopper had already been killed by the dead shooters, who had then killed themselves.

in gun control issues, like open carry and concealed carry, if they feel like they are the most likely targets.

died. Only the person who thought it made sense to get in a gun battle with them.

The story refers to a report of a citizen with a concealed weapon. It makes no reference to a permit.

Cops are trained and they get shot all the time. Contrary to what is on tv, it takes skill and shooting a gun is hard, especially during live fire.

Dumb asses

that person may have saved some lives. Whether or not the citizen was armed, it is a tragic loss of life at the hands of two maniacs

that's why all this concealed carry civilians getting involved in law enforcement baloney is just that...

very possible that the CCW holder wounded one of the perps causing them both to commit suicide before using the stolen police weapons an many other people. Just one of the possibilities that I am sure will be forthcoming in the next few weeks.

a good guy with a gun shoots bad guy scenario for all of us to ponder over. Hell we can all make up stories to make our side look good until the truth comes out.

LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL is reporting the civilian was a woman.

Bad for 'progress' on guns, dontcha know...

I'll repost the decidedly malodorous post in full, on the slim chance the poster regains a
residual sense of shame and self-deletes or edits it (the particularly repellent bit
is highlighted):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025067601#post7

I couldn't believe I read that.

that is where I found the info.

Also I am not claiming she killed either criminal but may have injured one. That could have changed their plan drastically.

she wouldn't have gotten into that gunfight with them. Everyone else was able to leave.

to knowzwhat you have written to be true.

So we don't even know that there was a gun.

a larger tragedy at the cost of her own life. If that is true, I think we must acknowledge and respect what she did...not criticize and insult her.

The more important issue, though, is how the two criminals got access to firearms to begin with. At the risk of stating the obvious, if they did not have firearms this incident wouldn't have happened in the first place. This is the aspect of the story that the gun legislation advocates might focus on. Proper legislation could have saved the life of the woman with the concealed carry permit.

You'll have about as much luck keeping guns away from people like that as
keeping Republicans away from racism...

They hit one of the shooters, injuring him and then the female shooter shot the injured shooter and then herself.

After the shooting, the couple headed toward a nearby Wal-Mart, where Jerad Miller was confronted by Joseph Robert Wilcox, 31, of Las Vegas. Wilcox was legally carrying a concealed pistol. Wilcox was unaware that Amanda Miller, who was pushing a shopping cart, was involved in the incident and “lying in wait,” the official said.

She slipped behind Wilcox and shot him at close range.

“He had no idea the wife was walking behind him,” the police official said of the murdered man. “This guy (Wilcox) was not some idiot with a gun. To me, he was a hero. He was trying to stop an active shooter.”

It wasn’t immediately clear if Wilcox fired a shot, or if he hit Jerad Miller before he died.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/shooters-sunday-carnage-identified-indiana-couple

A woman was killed at the entrance of Walmart. This makes no sense.

Since speculation time is about over?

Not that I place much stock into what been attributed to him, however "the only difference between a hero and a corpse is a well placed bullet" is one of the few things I think Gen Patton actually had right...

He was a "bystander" hit by a "Spray of bullets" directed toward everyone.

The neighbors should be charged with something, though. The neighbors TALKED to these people as they left the house with a "shopping cart of weapons" that morning.... after talking about how they planned to overthrow the Govt, the President, and kill police officers. The neighbor said "I wish I had called someone... but I thought he was talking out of his neck." Yeah, a fucking shopping cart of WEAPONS, the neighbors telling them goodbye.. and they think it's all talk? Wow...