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Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:36 PM Jun 2014

John Morgan: Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign as Democratic chair



John Morgan, the trial attorney and financial backer of an amendment to legalize medical marijuana, said Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign as leader of the Democratic National Committee.

Morgan said she can no longer lead the party after expressing concerns about his amendment.

"She should really step down as chairwoman of the DNC," Morgan said on Monday.

"I don’t care if she disagrees with me, but she really can’t be in that position," he said. "It would be like if she was opposed to the funding of Planned Parenthood. This issue is so central to the Democratic Party. Bill Nelson, the most cautious politician in Florida, is in favor of the legalization of medical marijuana. It’s going to be hard for her to be our leader."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/blogs/beth-kassab/os-john-morgan-debbie-wasserman-schultz-should-resign-as-democratic-chair-20140609,0,1662214.post
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John Morgan: Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign as Democratic chair (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 OP
I can think of several reasons, starting with her endorsement of a repuke over a Democrat in 2010 hobbit709 Jun 2014 #1
she stinks bad elehhhhna Jun 2014 #15
Yes she does. 840high Jun 2014 #30
Yes and it is way past time she was replaced. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #16
She did it back in 2006 also. Fuddnik Jun 2014 #21
It's part of the shifting to the Left..and yes, she stands in the way protecting the precious Center libdem4life Jun 2014 #2
According to the article, she wants to protect the federal government's right to intervene. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #5
I have a couple of comments. Someone explain to me why the federal government rhett o rick Jun 2014 #10
I suspect that the real battle is a turf war. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #13
I agree with you. secondvariety Jun 2014 #22
Laissez-faire. Exactly. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #33
watchdogs maybe, but DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #27
I have no desire to defend her. I just agree that federal oversight is not Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #34
She's equating medical mj to pill mills? RainDog Jun 2014 #37
It seems to be that there may be a reason for her to resign, but not the one he cited. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #3
I'm still waiting onethatcares Jun 2014 #4
Though I agree with her on the federal oversight vs state regulation point, it Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #40
I have several more reasons. madfloridian Jun 2014 #6
What? And John Morgan doesn't have any close ties to Republicans? Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #7
Well, Charlie Crist works for him.... Fuddnik Jun 2014 #24
Crist is a Democrat, more of one than some of the other FL Dems in leadership. madfloridian Jun 2014 #25
I hated him when he was chain gang charlie DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #29
I'm sure Crist will act honorably and remember he's a Democrat, willing to shut out Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #31
Morgan is known for liberal causes overall. madfloridian Jun 2014 #26
You should study up on the political make-up of his law firm. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #32
Yep, that for starters. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #8
I still remember when she spoke glowingly of "her friend" Ginny Brown-Waite (R) Fuddnik Jun 2014 #23
“Don’t pull that populist stuff with me.” DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #28
wow RainDog Jun 2014 #35
And then there was Dave Lutrin, kicked out so a billionaire Republican could run. madfloridian Jun 2014 #36
I agree. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #9
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2014 #11
Wasn't she also one of the "reasonable" Dems that supported chained CPI? Broward Jun 2014 #12
If she resigns who will take the job nobody wants. CK_John Jun 2014 #14
Howard Dean would never take it tularetom Jun 2014 #18
Thank you! I've been bitching about this for years. Her resignation can't come too soon. ancianita Jun 2014 #17
Actions have consequences RainDog Jun 2014 #19
K&R B Calm Jun 2014 #20
WTF? this is MEDICAL marijuana..... spanone Jun 2014 #38
So? Timez Squarez Jun 2014 #39
She was also as much in the way of Bush impeachment as Pelosi was too... cascadiance Jun 2014 #41

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
5. According to the article, she wants to protect the federal government's right to intervene.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jun 2014

Frankly, I've lived in Florida long enough to know that this state does not do regulation very well, if at all. If that's the case, her concerns are valid:


“Other states have shown that lax oversight and ease of access to prescriptions can lead to abuse, fraud, and accidents,” said her statement. “Also, given Florida’s recent history in combating the epidemic of ‘pill mills’ and dubious distinction as having among the highest incidents of fraud, I do not believe we should make it easier for those seeking to abuse the drug to have easy access to it.”


I have no doubt that medical marijuana will pass. But, we need watchdogs in place in this state.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
10. I have a couple of comments. Someone explain to me why the federal government
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jun 2014

wont trust states to regulate medical marijuana and yet let them do whatever they want with regard to voting.

I dont share your view that her concerns are valid. The Federal Government is wayyyyyyy behind the states in recognizing the need for legalizing medical marijuana. Her concerns are to insure that those seeking to abuse the drug dont have easy access. Easy access, you mean like the access some states have already legalized. Of all the things we need to worry about abuse of marijuana isnt one.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
13. I suspect that the real battle is a turf war.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jun 2014

i.e., who is going to profit from the business.

The state and local government is far more unreliable than the feds. There are political networks all over Florida. And they are not all partisan based. We are a Libertarian state, as far as business goes. There is not enough consumer protection, which is why this state is known for its con artists.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
22. I agree with you.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jun 2014

Florida is a cesspool of corruption on so many levels. Politicians, citizens, out of state "investors"-Florida is a prime example of laissez-faire on steroids.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
33. Laissez-faire. Exactly.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jun 2014

And most people are not aware of it. They move in expecting direction from local and state government and are always bewildered by what they find.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
27. watchdogs maybe, but
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:13 PM
Jun 2014

That is NOT debbie's concern. Debbie is the archteypal Florida democrat that tries to be as conservative as a GOP. She is one of the main reasons Marco Rubio is in office, as she, like many other White Democrats, hung Kendrick Meek out to dry. If she was so damned concerned about the pill mills, she could have slammed them much more intensely; hell, in the gubernatorial campaign, the democrats are NOT hanging the pill mills around the neck of Rick Scott, whose wife owns many of them.

Frankly, I would rather have weed sold in ever damned 7-11 than Oxy. Oxy KILLS, something Cannabis, for all it's glory, does NOT do.

From Alex Sink and the botched gibernatorial campaign, to Marco Rubio, there are so many, many reasons why DWS, the friend of GOP, needs to go.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
34. I have no desire to defend her. I just agree that federal oversight is not
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jun 2014

a bad idea in Florida, since local and state government is compromised by heavy-handed politics.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
37. She's equating medical mj to pill mills?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jun 2014

smgdh. LOL.

That's really outrageous to equate pills with cannabis.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
3. It seems to be that there may be a reason for her to resign, but not the one he cited.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jun 2014

If we are going to amend the Constitution, that's not the issue to start with.

onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
4. I'm still waiting
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jun 2014

for her to reply to an email asking her which progressive causes she supports.

Of course, she has no problem asking for donations.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
40. Though I agree with her on the federal oversight vs state regulation point, it
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:42 AM
Jun 2014

was distressing to discover that the same reporter referred to her as a liberal in another article. At least it wasn't capitalized. It is not a good sign when our journalists expose their conservative leanings in their writing. We should demand that they learn the distinction between liberal and neo-liberals.

It's a subscription only article, but here's the comment:

All of this is raising so many questions that even liberals like Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee and congresswoman from Weston, are raising concerns about Amendment 2.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/os-medical-marijuana-beth-kassab-20140609,0,1361419.column

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. I have several more reasons.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jun 2014
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2616

We supported Doug, worked for him. Great guy.

One of the most satisfying aspects of my time in Denver was being able to see Democrats uniting together to help other Democrats. I received financial support from Congressman John Salazar (D-CO), Congressman Phil Hare (D-IL), future Congressman Jared Polis (D-CO), as well as from convention attendees from Washington, Montana, North Carolina, and Florida. What I have not been able to do is to get Democrats from Florida’s congressional caucus to risk offending their good friend, Adam Putnam, by contributing from their personal wealth or campaign accounts, or by endorsing me.

I, of course, was most anxious to meet and speak with Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (DINO-FL), who is chairing the DCCC’s Red-to-Blue program. I just knew that she would welcome the chance to defeat Adam Putnam, as that would allow her lay sole claim to the title of “Wonder Kid” in Florida’s politics. Adam, after all, isn’t her next door neighbor. Once she comes onboard, I assumed, the other members of the caucus would lose their timidity and also support me. I was dead wrong, and I should have known better.

It is well known that Wasserman-Schultz supports Republicans Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart, and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen over their Democratic opponents, although lately she has been pressured into giving belated and grudging support to Joe Garcia and Raul Martinez who are opposing the Diaz-Balarts. I always figured that she was just afraid of the Hispanic backlash in her own district. What I hadn’t considered is that she is just afraid of all incumbent Republicans in Florida. When I met her in Denver, she immediately told me that she couldn’t support me, saying I hadn’t raised enough money. I told her that I had raised $100K, that I was a military retiree, that my family is living on my wife’s Air Force E6 pay, and that I wasn’t able like other “viable” candidates to drop a quarter of a million dollars into my own campaign. I then told her, “Congresswoman, I am one of those working-class guys that our party claims to represent.” Her response was “Don’t pull that populist stuff with me.” I thanked her for her time.


http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4588216

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

''At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant,'' Wasserman Schultz said.

The decision comes as Democrats believe they have their best shot in years to defeat at least one of the Cuban-American incumbents with a roster of Democrats that include former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, opposing Lincoln Diaz-Balart; outgoing Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia, opposing Mario Diaz-Balart; and businesswoman Annette Taddeo, opposing Ros-Lehtinen.

But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida issues.


That is the party chairman showing disloyalty to Democrats.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
7. What? And John Morgan doesn't have any close ties to Republicans?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:54 PM
Jun 2014

Are you kidding me?

Let's face it, we have a bleak Dem situation going on in Florida. Few of them seem to want to go it alone.

So much for ideals.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
29. I hated him when he was chain gang charlie
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:17 PM
Jun 2014

but I will also admit he has butchered many a sacred cow on the GOP side, such as the mantra of "protect and genulflect to inmsurance companies." He is to the left of many dems, including and especially DWS.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
31. I'm sure Crist will act honorably and remember he's a Democrat, willing to shut out
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jun 2014

Republican player-players.

That's all anyone can ask for. And, I wasn't referring to Crist in my comments.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Yep, that for starters.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jun 2014

Then of course theres the trainwreck that is Cong Dist 13 (Bill Young's district). There was a Dem entered in the race to challange David Jolly, who beat Alex Sink in the special election. But he wasn't "their" guy, being a progressive. So DWS, Fl Dem Party, and Pinellas Dem Party threatened him, which led to his pulling out. "Their" guy, was a former cop, Iraqi War vet, and former Republican. Except he switched parties too late to run as a Dem, so was running as an Ind, with official Dem Party backing. Then it was discovered he didn't have the degrees he claimed. Oopsie. He withdrew from the race, saying he didn't know campaigning would take so much time from his family. WTF? What a clusterfuck of a trainwreck. This is a purple district. A Dem can win this district. A Dem can win statewide in Fl. Its the goddam self-serving DLCers like DWS and Bill Nelson that have fucked up so badly a real Dem has trouble winning in Fl, and their fake Dems always lose. She's got to go... bring back Howard Dean and his 50-state strategy (which gave Dems majorities in House and Senate, AND won the WH), and start him out down here in Fl clearing out the Turd Way.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
23. I still remember when she spoke glowingly of "her friend" Ginny Brown-Waite (R)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jun 2014

Over progressive Dem, John Russell.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
28. “Don’t pull that populist stuff with me.”
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jun 2014

and that, my friends, is why the Florida democrats are USELESS!

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
35. wow
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jun 2014

reminds me of Democrats who supported Christie in NJ and Democrats, like Hillary Clinton, who supported Joe Lieberman when he left the Democratic Party and ran as an independent and voted with Republicans.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
36. And then there was Dave Lutrin, kicked out so a billionaire Republican could run.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jun 2014

This was mostly Rahm and Karen Thurman, but if it's Florida DWS is involved for sure.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1487

Lutrin said that he also met personally with Mahoney. During a three- hour breakfast meeting, Mahoney offered Lutrin a higher-paying job if he agreed to drop out of the primary. "Mahoney tried to get me to run in a different district. He offered me a job at one of his non-profit organizations where he said that I would make more than I was making as a teacher. He said I could campaign full time while working at his non-profit as long as I agreed to drop out of the race," Lutrin said. Lutrin declined the job offer.

According to Lutrin, when he refused to step aside, the DCCC shored up local political support for Mahoney. The local AFL-CIO chapter, of which Lutrin was a member, came out with an early endorsement of Mahoney's campaign. According to Lutrin, the union told him that "they would like to back a fellow union brother, but Mahoney has more money and more political support from the party." Lutrin eventually dropped out of the race when the local teachers' union decided to support Mahoney.


Even the union screwed Dave. His GOP not yet turned Democrat bribed him.

ancianita

(36,041 posts)
17. Thank you! I've been bitching about this for years. Her resignation can't come too soon.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:33 PM
Jun 2014
Bring back Howard Dean.

For three years I've used the prepaid party solicitation envelopes from Chuck Shumer, the DNC, DSCC, Obama, Biden and the rest, and written by magic marker on the payment stub -- "Nothing from me until Wasserman-Schulz is OUT."

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
19. Actions have consequences
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jun 2014

Wasserman Schultz does not represent the overwhelming concensus among Democrats about marijuana legalization. I agree, it's like having an anti-choice person head the committee.

We need legislators that align with the majority of the party to lead the party or to run for public office.

We learned that lesson with Joe Lieberman.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
39. So?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jun 2014

Ms. S-W needs to be thrown out on her ass. And bring back Dean and his 50 state strategy. And begin systemically banning Turd Way policies from the Democratic Platform.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
41. She was also as much in the way of Bush impeachment as Pelosi was too...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jun 2014

Part of the "looking forward" crowd leadership. Ugh!

http://warisacrime.org/node/28554

Now, see what this "looking forward" crap gets you Debbie? Hasn't stopped Republicans has it!

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