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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:16 AM Jun 2014

Why Is Network Television Afraid of Admitting Many of America's Terror Attacks Are 'Right Wing

http://www.alternet.org/media/why-network-television-so-afraid-admitting-many-americas-terror-attacks-are-right-wing



In the aftermath of the deadly Las Vegas shooting rampage, which left two police officers, a shopper, and the shooters dead, one can expect all the usual talking points that follow an all too regular and familiar massacre – mental health, access to guns, the killer’s motives, and so forth. But here’s another one: the intellectual cowardice of cable news giant CNN, when it comes to reporting right wing terrorism.

The facts and back story to Sunday’s carnage are pretty well known and have been widely reported by a multitude of online and offline news outlets.

A married couple, Jared and Amanda Miller, walked into CiCi’s Pizza, shouted, “This is a revolution,” and then shot police officers Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo as the two ate lunch. They then ran across an adjacent parking lot to a Walmart store, where they shot a woman before retreating to the back of the store, where the woman fatally shot her husband before killing herself.

What is also known is that the suspects stripped the dead officers of their weapons and ammunition, before covering their bodies with the Revolutionary War-era Gadsden flag, which depicts a coiled snake and the words “Don’t Tread on Me” – a flag that is informally adopted by the Republican Tea Party.
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Why Is Network Television Afraid of Admitting Many of America's Terror Attacks Are 'Right Wing (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2014 OP
Are media really afraid, or is it only that their best interests lie elsewhere? merrily Jun 2014 #1
Why Is Network Television Afraid of Admitting Many of America's Terror Attacks Are 'Right Wing imthevicar Jun 2014 #2
^^^^This.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2014 #22
Those people JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #3
The PTB know they're nuts, but they are no threat to them, short term Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #4
What I found interesting is the report of "Don't Tread on Me" flags being draped over the bodies chelsea0011 Jun 2014 #5
Same Reason They Wouldn't Investigate 911 billhicks76 Jun 2014 #6
Because they are useful idiots. nt Kahuna Jun 2014 #7
Because they helped to create them malaise Jun 2014 #8
Nailed it! JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #12
^^THIS^^ valerief Jun 2014 #17
Because their ratings are bad enough already. bvf Jun 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Atman Jun 2014 #31
How many network news shows ever reported this? theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #10
+1 xchrom Jun 2014 #11
I've been posting about this threat for a long time theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #30
... nailed it. . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2014 #29
The Fox effect nxylas Jun 2014 #13
Because they all know that in some way they are enablers of this madness. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #14
Because what are they gonna call them? Commies? Nope. Al-Qaeda? Nope. White Gun Nuts? Heh. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #15
Same reason Jeopardy called teabaggers the "Pro Free-Trade" Party? MinM Jun 2014 #16
Whaaaat?! First of all, they aren't EVEN a "Party"! They are Republicans! WinkyDink Jun 2014 #20
Network television isn't afraid to admit terror attacks are right wing watoos Jun 2014 #18
I don't think you said what you think you said. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #21
I think Rachel is there to provide cover nxylas Jun 2014 #23
^^^^This too.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2014 #25
Yep. Rinse, lather, repeat. If they aren't awake yet, chances are they never will be. nt raouldukelives Jun 2014 #35
They are afraid rtracey Jun 2014 #19
Because - It Would Be Harder To Criticize The Left Without Moral Superiority cantbeserious Jun 2014 #24
Most? which tv media is controlled by left wingers? NT bonniebgood Jun 2014 #26
Much of the rightwing media fuels, aids, and abets this violence. ananda Jun 2014 #27
Because CNN et. al. is a consortium of whores and cowards . . . . hatrack Jun 2014 #28
All you have to do is read FB Atman Jun 2014 #32
Here's a translation to use for the media. When they say, FSogol Jun 2014 #33
Have you noticed how sparse are the mentions of the Gadsden Flag? DirkGently Jun 2014 #34
Yep, I noticed all right theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #36
"A flag associated with the Revolutionary War" DirkGently Jun 2014 #37
Yes, I heard that one, too. Pathetic, isn't it? theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #38
+ about a million!! Good grief, could the RW slant be more obvious? Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2014 #40
In all fairness, TIME did have a cover story on RW extremism IronLionZion Jun 2014 #39
Ain't afraid. The half dozen RW owners want a civil war so they can get richer. n/t freshwest Jun 2014 #41

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Are media really afraid, or is it only that their best interests lie elsewhere?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:34 AM
Jun 2014

Journalists, or what passes for journalists in mass media, have to pay for food and shelter. Most often, that means not pissing off the people who pay you.

Besides, journalists grew up in the same country we did and, since at least the first Russian Revolution (1904, was it?), the drill has been that the real threat to the "American way of life" comes from the left, not from the jingoistic, right lovers of private wealth and its owners.

And that meme was begun, nurtured and perpetuated by both of the two largest political parties, and still is. As is hippie flogging, liberal bashing, and even bashing of traditional Democrats.

 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
2. Why Is Network Television Afraid of Admitting Many of America's Terror Attacks Are 'Right Wing
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:38 AM
Jun 2014

Because, their are No Black/Brown or other color folks to demonize, at least too few in number in the RW! And that's no fun...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
22. ^^^^This....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:58 AM
Jun 2014

Is right on POINT. Call it the Caucasian Domestic Terrorist Murder Tea Party excuse clause. Yet, if the subject who murdered two cops was African-American, he or her face would have been blasted on CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Abc, CBS and NBC IMMEDIATELY as minorities are not excluded.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
3. Those people
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:38 AM
Jun 2014

Will have to put in play a nation wide series of attacks that do severe damage in order forthe MSM to tell America the truth. They have to happen all at the same time and the same day with pretty much the same type of target.

These sucker punch attacks here and there aren't adding up for a lot of folks - including people that want us to pat them on the heads and dismiss it as mental illness.

Extremism is extremism - if it walks and talks like a duck - damn it all - its a duck.

Randall Terry - Terrorist. Cliven Bundy is just as bad. And the people that follow these types of people are the REAL authoritarians. They have been isolated and blinded by a vision of America that is Dystopic and we have to be vigilant and say - it CAN happen here.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
4. The PTB know they're nuts, but they are no threat to them, short term
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:51 AM
Jun 2014

As long as 'baggers keep barking up the wrong tree and blame everybody else but the plutocrats, the powers that be will tolerate them. Long term, after everybody else is thoroughly disenfranchised and it becomes obvious to even the baggers who the real enemy is, they'll get wise. But in the short term, the transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top continues...and the PTB like it. They like it a lot; and they don't want to rock the boat.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
5. What I found interesting is the report of "Don't Tread on Me" flags being draped over the bodies
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:59 AM
Jun 2014

of the police officers and I haven't seen one television report mention where these flags come from and are used. It is like the news is afraid to report who uses the flags and just letting viewers know it happened is enough for everyone to put 1+1 together and let viewers figure it out.

malaise

(268,968 posts)
8. Because they helped to create them
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 06:43 AM
Jun 2014

They've given them a pass any time they could - because many of them also hate that black man in the WH

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
9. Because their ratings are bad enough already.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 06:58 AM
Jun 2014

Wouldn't be good business to piss off a good portion of their viewership on top of that.

Scary as it sounds, believe that there are a lot of loonies out there who cheered at this news.

Please don't ask me what I mean by "a lot." Some networks undoubtedly have more than others, but they all take this question into account in morning meetings, memos from management, corporate directives, etc.

Response to bvf (Reply #9)

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
10. How many network news shows ever reported this?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:22 AM
Jun 2014
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/homegrown-terrorists/

This shit has been going on for decades but the MSM seems loathe to discuss these RW, homegrown terrorists. Why? Maybe it's because so many power brokers in Washington were associated with Southern Partisan.
See: http://fair.org/take-action/media-advisories/southern-partisan-quotsetting-the-record-straightquot/

Just do a search for "Southern Partisan" and "Council of Conservative Citizens" and you'll discover that what this country should truly fear are the homegrown terrorists and the neo-confederate legislators who inspire them.

They even ignored this connection when McVeigh committed the OKC bombing.
http://www.accuracy.org/release/752-southern-partisan-t-shirt-identical-to-one-worn-by-timothy-mcveigh-at-time-of-arrest/
Southern Partisan T-Shirt Identical to One Worn by Timothy McVeigh at Time of Arrest
January 15, 2001

Factual Background:

Mid-1990s
Southern Partisan sells T-shirts celebrating the Lincoln assassination with a quote from John Wilkes Booth (“Sic Semper Tyrannis”) on the front, and Jefferson’s quote about liberty requiring “the blood of patriots and tyrants” on the back.

April 19, 1995
Timothy McVeigh is arrested after bombing the Oklahoma City federal building, wearing a T-shirt identical to the one sold by Southern Partisan. (Front and back views of the Southern Partisan shirt can be seen at FAIR’s website.)

December 1995
Southern Partisan General Store sends out form letter stating: “Due to a surprising demand for our anti-Lincoln T-shirt, our stock has been reduced to odd sizes. If the enclosed shirt will not suffice, we will be glad to refund your money or immediately ship you another equally militant shirt from our catalog.”

April 24, 1997
In his opening statement on day one of McVeigh’s murder and conspiracy trial, the prosecutor described the T-shirt worn by McVeigh at the time of his arrest, as reported by the New York Times (4/25/97): It “showed the tree of liberty, with droplets of bright red blood where the fruit should be, and the slogan ‘The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.’ [The quotation is from a 1787 letter by Thomas Jefferson to Williams Stevens Smith.] On the front was a picture of Lincoln, emblazoned with the Latin slogan ‘Sic Semper Tyrannis’ [thus always to tyrants], shouted by his assassin, John Wilkes Booth.”

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
30. I've been posting about this threat for a long time
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:17 AM
Jun 2014

And how this homegrown terrorist movement was seeded in Washington.
from 2003:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/theHandpuppet/21

Number of responses: 0

Perhaps some folks are beginning to see the light. I can only hope the MSM picks up this ball and runs with it, if they aren't too afraid.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
18. Network television isn't afraid to admit terror attacks are right wing
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:36 AM
Jun 2014

because network television "is" right wing, including msnbc. Yes, msnbc puts a liberal slant to the narrative, but the narrative is controlled there too. Rachel and Chris Hayes stray from the right wing narrative at times, they better be careful, they will end up like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygar, Martin Brashear, Dylan Ratigan.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
23. I think Rachel is there to provide cover
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jun 2014

She allows MSNBC to market themselves an an alternative for a liberal audience, even when 80% of their content is barely distinguishable from the "mainstream" networks, while Morning Joe is a Fox News show that happens to be broadcast on MSNBC.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
25. ^^^^This too....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jun 2014

"Rachel and Chris Hayes stray from the right wing narrative at times, they better be careful, they will end up like Phil Donahue, Keith Olbermann, Cenk Uygar, Martin Brashear, Dylan Ratigan."

Exactly. What amaze me is how EASY the Public at Large are FOOLED into believing what is said by Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow is not approved by the Corporate Comcast Masters that be. This network is owned 51% by COMCAST. When will folks wrap their brain behind this FACT, I don't know.

Why else is Keith Olbermann, Martin Bashir and Dylan Ratigan gone? They did not play the game correctly.....thus they had to fall at the sword of their Corporate Comcast Masters.... #SMH.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
19. They are afraid
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:48 AM
Jun 2014

They are afraid because most media outlets in this country are owned by right wingers, and right wing corporations

ananda

(28,858 posts)
27. Much of the rightwing media fuels, aids, and abets this violence.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:10 AM
Jun 2014

It's as though they want us to divide up and eat our own.

I wonder why ....

hatrack

(59,584 posts)
28. Because CNN et. al. is a consortium of whores and cowards . . . .
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:17 AM
Jun 2014

Besides, your job is not to be informed, it's to STFU and get back to shopping, Citizen Consumer!

Atman

(31,464 posts)
32. All you have to do is read FB
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:26 AM
Jun 2014

Media Matters, US Uncut, Democracy Now, there are hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands, of posts cheering these guys on. They're loving it, and can't wait for the opportunity to start shooting up 'Murka. After all, what good are these guns if ya' ain't gonna use 'em?

Many of these posts rail on against the evil police, and tell stories about how the fuzz (yes, I actually ran across that a couple of times) have roughed them up every time they've been arrested. "Every time?" Something tells me if you refer to getting arrested as a regular occurrence you're not exactly a model citizen in the first place.

It's some scary shit. They're afraid of the police getting all armored up, but don't understand how their own actions are giving police plenty of reason to be concerned. It's self-fulfilling. They're going to make it happen because they want it to happen.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
33. Here's a translation to use for the media. When they say,
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jun 2014

"Let's not jump to conclusions about the intent of the violent...." it means: "this was a RW attack fueled by RW media and MSM false equivalencies."

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
34. Have you noticed how sparse are the mentions of the Gadsden Flag?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:00 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:03 AM - Edit history (1)

When it started it cropping up, here and there, yesterday, I noticed the headlines for (politically opinionated) blogs and so forth put that fact up front. Networks not only kept it out of the headlines, but barely mentioned it all.

I'm not much for bashing the reliability of "main stream media" in general -- blogs and so forth can be even worse -- but the fact that a the signature symbol for a public, vocal, U.S. political faction was invoked by terroristic spree killers targeting cops seems worth mentioning to me.

Can you imagine if they'd left an anarchy symbol or a peace sign or a rainbow flag on the bodies of their victims?

At what point does the automatic conservative entitlement to the benefit of the doubt fail? When do we get to talk about the problem with their entire point of view, not with a few "lone nuts?"

Not when they talk about "Second Amendment remedies, or when they bring guns to rallies, apparently. Not when they aim rifles at federal officials. Not when they claim the right to waltz into the Gas 'n Sip with rifles and laugh at anyone who feels "uncomfortable with that."

And now, not when they drape their f'ing FLAG over people murdered in cold blood?



theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
36. Yep, I noticed all right
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

It was ridiculous hearing some reporters (do ya hear me, Wolf?) trying to come up with any descriptor imaginable to avoid saying "the Gadsden flag".

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
37. "A flag associated with the Revolutionary War"
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jun 2014

... is one careful choice I noticed somewhere. "Aaaand ...?"

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
38. Yes, I heard that one, too. Pathetic, isn't it?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

As well as "a flag with some kind of symbol on it".

If some of these folks had any integrity they'd be ashamed. But since they don't, they aren't.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
40. + about a million!! Good grief, could the RW slant be more obvious?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jun 2014

Yet that BS "study" that "proved" a liberal bias in the media is taken as gospel. The brainwashing is nearly complete.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
39. In all fairness, TIME did have a cover story on RW extremism
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

focusing mainly on the militia movement and anti-Obama hatred among many gun nuts. This was a few years ago.

http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20101011,00.html

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2022636,00.html


Print news is a little bit better than broadcast media, but not by much.


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