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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 03:40 PM Jun 2014

It's pretty ironic that we've gone from Rethugs in 1992 calling Bill Clinton "poor white trash"

to Dems today insisting he and Hillary have always been part of the 1% and have no knowledge of how regular people live.

I think when he was making $35K a year as Governor of a poor state he had a pretty good idea of how most people live -- and those kind of memories have stayed with him.

From an article on "The Poorest Presidents in History"

http://www.twcc.com/articles/2014/03/11/t/the-poorest-presidents-in-u-s-history

Bill Clinton (1992-2000): Hope, Ark.

William Jefferson Clinton was born to a single mother in the poor, dirt-farm town of Hope, Arkansas. His father, a traveling salesman, died in an auto accident a few months before he was born. After several years in the care of his grandparents, Clinton moved with his mother and new husband to Hot Springs. Clinton says his stepfather, a gambler and a drunk, regularly abused him, his mother and his half-brother. Since leaving the presidency, Clinton has earned millions as an author and public speaker.

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It's pretty ironic that we've gone from Rethugs in 1992 calling Bill Clinton "poor white trash" (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2014 OP
Jimmy Carter HockeyMom Jun 2014 #1
Carter's family was anything but poor white trash dsc Jun 2014 #21
Didn't the Clinton's leave the WH $5Mil in debt? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #2
Poor people cannot rack up $5M in debt. Rich people can, though. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #6
Really? Poor people can't rack up debt due to law suits? LOL! KittyWampus Jun 2014 #12
Poor people usually have to pay up front PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #15
Do $600 an hour law firms extend poor people $5M in legal services? Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #18
$5mil in legal bills JaneyVee Jun 2014 #17
I understand. Powerful law firms do not extend $5mil in legal services to poor people. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #19
$35K was damn good money back then. Plus the perks: Whisp Jun 2014 #3
For someone with his legal education, it was a low salary, not an "amazing" one. pnwmom Jun 2014 #5
Really? That surprises me. Whisp Jun 2014 #7
If you read the article about Obama, it says that the President pnwmom Jun 2014 #9
ok, thanks for info. Whisp Jun 2014 #11
Over the long run, yes, they've made more money in politics. pnwmom Jun 2014 #14
What about Hillary's income from Rose Law firm broiles Jun 2014 #13
I'm sure that's why he gutted welfare leftstreet Jun 2014 #4
When was the last time they had to eat Raman noodles and McChickens? snooper2 Jun 2014 #8
When he was in college. pnwmom Jun 2014 #10
5 minutes ago for me =) PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #16
A couple weeks ago for me. Because I like them. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #20
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
1. Jimmy Carter
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jun 2014

I guess he was just "white trash" also? Look at what he has done since leaving the Presidency. Making MILLIONS? I am an Agnostic, but if any human being deserves to be called "Christian and religious", Mr. Carter certainly does.

I am 65 years old and only a Democrat for about 20 of all those years. I would rank Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter as my top 2 Presidents in my lifetime, simply because they cared about the 99% of America.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
21. Carter's family was anything but poor white trash
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jun 2014

He did leave the Presidency quite poor but he was not poor when he was elected to it, nor was his family poor when he grew up.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
15. Poor people usually have to pay up front
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:39 PM
Jun 2014

They may be allowed some credit, but not much. Lawyer would cut them loose first, at least in my experiences.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
18. Do $600 an hour law firms extend poor people $5M in legal services?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jun 2014

No they do not. They would only allow rich people that sort of consideration. This is a statement of fact.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. I understand. Powerful law firms do not extend $5mil in legal services to poor people.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jun 2014

They only allow rich people to rack up that kind of debt. They do this knowing that the rich person will inevitably be rolling in the dough in the near future.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. $35K was damn good money back then. Plus the perks:
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jun 2014

Did he have to pay for a mortgage, food, clothing, groceries for their dinners?

If you take away all the normal expenses the serfs have to deal with, 35K was an amazing salary. That is not poor. It's just not filthy rich like they are now.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
5. For someone with his legal education, it was a low salary, not an "amazing" one.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jun 2014

He could have made much more in the private sector, even in Arkansas.

And, yes, he did have to pay for his food, clothing, and groceries (as he also did as President).The housing came with the job.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/20681/who-pays-obama-familys-food

President Obama may have his own executive chef now, but when his family and personal guests eat what's coming out of the kitchen, he'll have to foot the bill himself. Luckily for him, though, the government picks up the tab if he's having a state function at the White House, which could get pricey since the White House's website touts that its five chefs can crank out dinner for 140 or hors d'oeuvres for over a thousand people.

Does someone really keep track? Apparently, the White House functions like a luxury hotel in this regard. At the end of each month, the president receives a bill for his food and incidental expenses. Nancy Reagan was famously taken aback by this practice when an usher presented her first bill in 1981, saying, "Nobody ever told us the president and his wife are charged for every meal, as well as incidentals like dry cleaning, toothpaste, and other toiletries." (Once they got used to the bills, though, the Reagans loved the White House; President Reagan often joked that all the amenities made it like living in an eight-star hotel.)

The president and his family get to pick what snacks they want, what brand of toothpaste they use, and what menu they want the chef to prepare for them, but it can still get a bit pricier than new commanders in chief expect. In a fascinating article in this month's National Geographic, former White House chief usher Gary Walters said that he couldn't remember any first families not complaining about the high prices of the food. Walters added that Rosalynn Carter was particularly miffed by the high-priced fare, which must have been a bit more expensive than what she'd been getting in Georgia.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. Really? That surprises me.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jun 2014

About the food.

I mean Governors entertain a lot, having dinners and drinks for their varied guests - Bill and Hillary had to get that money out of their own pockets?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
9. If you read the article about Obama, it says that the President
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jun 2014

does NOT have to pay for official state dinners. I'm sure the same thing was true for Clinton when he was governor.

But they did have to pay when friends and relatives visited, because those would have been personal costs.

Also, I just found a site that said, with inflation, 35K in 1992 would be worth about $59K today -- not really an amazing amount for a Governor with a law degree from Harvard.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.com

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
11. ok, thanks for info.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:29 PM
Jun 2014

turns out that law would have made the Clinton's far poorer than politics tho.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
14. Over the long run, yes, they've made more money in politics.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jun 2014

But what we also don't know is how much of their wealth is going into the foundation.

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