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Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:32 AM Jun 2014

Before celebrating Cantor's downfall, think a second about the implications.

It would be lovely to believe that the Republicans will never hold power in America again.

It would also be spectacularly stupid to think so.

And the lesson they've just learned is that Eric Cantor - Eric Cantor! - was not right wing enough...

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Before celebrating Cantor's downfall, think a second about the implications. (Original Post) Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 OP
But if the party keeps moving to the right, they will lose more and more hollysmom Jun 2014 #1
There's a bright spot. A Republican leader has been replaced by a back bencher. MADem Jun 2014 #2
Thank you for explaining that, MADem.. in your own inimitable way. Cha Jun 2014 #4
+1 -- and sufrommich has right on the money; Cantor's district is irrelevant, they're likely to send MADem Jun 2014 #5
Yeah, they'd rather cantor would have won again? No thanks, we've done that. Cha Jun 2014 #7
People I don't think quite yet appreciate what a big deal this is! MADem Jun 2014 #8
Not only that.. kochs lost money betting on eric.. Cha Jun 2014 #10
I love it when Kochheads waste money! Spend, spend, spend! nt MADem Jun 2014 #13
Rachel call it leftynyc Jun 2014 #11
What a bummer for 'em--they've lost their only claim to "token" religious diversity!!!! nt MADem Jun 2014 #12
I think "Christian" should be in quotes, though for the ones who claim it. Cha Jun 2014 #14
I celebrate it. For one thing, maybe the republicans cali Jun 2014 #3
What you said! ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #22
This election also means that Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #6
Cantor had a 96% lifetime rating leftynyc Jun 2014 #9
the crazies come out in primaries to vote..... beachbum bob Jun 2014 #15
If I recall my time in Va correctly etherealtruth Jun 2014 #18
We need to turn him leftynyc Jun 2014 #23
Yes, it looks like this was all about immigration reform. Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #17
"This is a heavily republican district made more so in the last redistricting." Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #21
That is what I took away from it etherealtruth Jun 2014 #16
The Big Picture...Republican funding is going to dry up. Bonhomme Richard Jun 2014 #19
This guy won with no money leftynyc Jun 2014 #24
They DO hold power, right now. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #20

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
1. But if the party keeps moving to the right, they will lose more and more
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:49 AM
Jun 2014

of it's base. and it will be harder to gerrymander and vote deny. Hopefully there will be a new left sided party of people who think the democrats are the new republicans - we will have the progressive party,and if we don't allow money to reign, we may actually not have some corporate people in power.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. There's a bright spot. A Republican leader has been replaced by a back bencher.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:55 AM
Jun 2014

This reminds me of the "Contract (on) America" (as I liked to call it--it was like a mob hit). Those guys came in with fanfare, and fell on their asses. Where's Newt nowadays? He's not the President? And we can find Joey Scar squinting at the world through piggy eyes from the "Morning Joe" set...hardly ruling the world.

Cha

(297,209 posts)
4. Thank you for explaining that, MADem.. in your own inimitable way.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:26 AM
Jun 2014

I like what Nancy Pelosi said about cantor's loss, too..

"Eric Cantor has long been the face of House Republicans’ extreme policies, debilitating dysfunction
and manufactured crises. Tonight, is a major victory for the Tea Party as they yet again pull the Republican Party further to the radical right."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5079087

sufrommich (15,393 posts)

"Cantor's dictrict in Virginia doesn't matter in comparison to Cantor's power in Washington."

I'm going to continue to celebrate cantor's loss.. I don't who tells not to.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. +1 -- and sufrommich has right on the money; Cantor's district is irrelevant, they're likely to send
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:30 AM
Jun 2014

some GOP asshole or another to Congress no matter what. How nice that they send a weak, bleating newbie instead of one that is hooked into the Leadership/Power Machine.

Nancy P--succinct as ever!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. People I don't think quite yet appreciate what a big deal this is!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:05 AM
Jun 2014

It's harder for an Army to prosecute a winning strategy when their key generals are falling on the battlefield...from FRIENDLY FIRE, too...!!!!




I hope the D challenger can knock down Turtleboy "Olive" McConnell (...as someone I know said "What is that...an OLIVE?" when watching the John Oliver McConnell Old White Dick ad...!!!). That would be priceless!

Cha

(297,209 posts)
10. Not only that.. kochs lost money betting on eric..
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:14 AM
Jun 2014
What's funny is that Cantor spent $1 Million on his campaign, including cash from the Kochs...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025079907#post1

I know they can afford it.. but, still.
 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
11. Rachel call it
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:14 AM
Jun 2014

an OMG election. Truly huge news.

Edited to add: Just heard Cantor was the only non-Christian the republicans had in Washington. That also says a lot.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. I celebrate it. For one thing, maybe the republicans
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jun 2014

will finally have to deal with the monster they helped create. Secondly, nominating freakish tea party types has not served the republican party well and those candidates don't always win- witness both 2010 and 2012.

Stop being so intimidated and timid re the tea party.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
6. This election also means that
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:33 AM
Jun 2014

we probably won't get to hear Jim Ward make fun of Cantor on Stephanie Miller's show anymore for at least the next two years.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
9. Cantor had a 96% lifetime rating
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:13 AM
Jun 2014

from the ACA (I think that's the organization's acronym). And he wasn't conservative enough. I find that chilling. This is a heavily republican district made more so in the last redistricting. I have no idea how conservative Brat is as he ran on immigration only. We're about to find out just how crazy he is.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
15. the crazies come out in primaries to vote.....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:18 AM
Jun 2014

democrats have to go after this guy big time.........

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
18. If I recall my time in Va correctly
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:23 AM
Jun 2014

.... that area is strongly republican (and bat shit crazy) .... I will hope for a Democratic party winner, but really doubt it

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. We need to turn him
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:24 AM
Jun 2014

into Cuccinnellli. We need to not only give reason for our voters to get out there, we need to depress their voters from turning out. It's the only way to win in a district this republican.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
17. Yes, it looks like this was all about immigration reform.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:22 AM
Jun 2014

Bigotry won.

And it won in a way that was a huge shock to everyone else in office.

We won't see any chance of immigration reform of any kind any more. It was a long shot but doable before with a lot of the GOP corporate masters pushing it. Now? Dead.

We won't see it before the midterms. Unless we win really big in the midterms- like taking back the house big- we won't see it before 2016.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
21. "This is a heavily republican district made more so in the last redistricting."
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:04 AM
Jun 2014

Exactly. Republicans have made themselves vulnerable to these teabagger takeovers by their own redistricting. In their zeal to make sure Dems can't get equal representation in proportion to their voters, they have left themselves wide open to takeovers from the right from people even nuttier than themselves. Our only real hope is that enough middle-right voters revolt, leaving the Dems in control of redistricting in 2020.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
16. That is what I took away from it
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:22 AM
Jun 2014

Eric Cantor (someone I thought was a nut-job supreme) was not bat shit crazy enough for those voters

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
19. The Big Picture...Republican funding is going to dry up.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:36 AM
Jun 2014

The more control that baggers have over the republican parity is not going to sit well with big Corporate and Wall Street donors because they are unpredictable.
The real power in this country likes stability and hates uncertainty. It's bad for business and if they believe that they cannot control the outcome of major monetary issues, which is all they really care about, they are going to back another horse. That horse is going to be the Democratic Party.
Bet on it.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. This guy won with no money
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:27 AM
Jun 2014

Not even tea party organizations would take on Cantor. So Brat is beholden to nobody right now. That's got to make the establishment republicans crap their pants.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
20. They DO hold power, right now.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:00 AM
Jun 2014

They've made it eminently plain that absolutely nothing will pass out of Congress that doesn't in some way please utter sociopaths, thereby tainting every single piece of legislation that Democrats, desperate to pass anything at all, will subsequently hail as a triumph. So they have the power to prevent anything that's actually entirely good to pass, unless they're too dumb to think of any way to screw over the 99% on the back of naming a post office.

And let's be honest - Cantor had a 96% Conservative rating, so even the most loony sociopath they can find isn't really going to be that much worse in terms of overall effect.

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