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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:51 PM Jun 2014

U.S. minorities on pace to be majority in months, not decades




The demographic transformation of the U.S.A. is one of the greatest untold stories of our time, and that's thanks in part to widespread underreporting in our mainstream media.


Posted Jun 6, 2014, 5:19 pm

Maria Hinojosa
Global Post
NEW YORK — The demographic transformation of the United States of America is one of the greatest untold stories of our time. That is thanks in part to widespread underreporting in our mainstream media.

Already, more than half of the babies born today are non-white and while conservative estimates say the United States will be majority non-white in three decades, there is a new prediction that places that reality in a much nearer future. Guy Garcia, President for New Mainstream Initiatives at EthniFacts, says the magic date on which non-white America will go over the cultural diversity edge is August 22 — of this year.

Using metrics that treat not just racial or ethnic numbers as factors, but also white “allies” — those whites whose children have married non-whites, who have a gay family, or who have proximity and acceptance to diversity — Garcia has developed a CulturEdge Countdown Clock. That clock tells us that the minority will become the majority on that day in late August, at precisely 7:56 p.m.

It’s not the future, people. It’s now.

And yet Latino and African American communities are too often dismissed as subjects while at the same time being courted as consumers and voters by media, politicians and the like. But who is telling the story from the perspective of the people on the front lines of these communities?

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/opinion/report/060614_us_minorities/us-minorities-pace-majority-months-not-decades/
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U.S. minorities on pace to be majority in months, not decades (Original Post) bravenak Jun 2014 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #1
You're welcome. bravenak Jun 2014 #2
K&R giftedgirl77 Jun 2014 #3
You're welcome.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #4
SPLAT! TheDebbieDee Jun 2014 #5
August of this year is the date. bravenak Jun 2014 #6
It's all LBJ's fault. The change in immigration law. kwassa Jun 2014 #7
Well then i thank him for getting this done.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #10
Yay! Cha Jun 2014 #8
So exciting! bravenak Jun 2014 #9
OH Indeed, bravenak! Cha Jun 2014 #11
I embrace the diversity of our nation. bigwillq Jun 2014 #12
I love diversity!!! I see this as a win for Liberals. nt bravenak Jun 2014 #13
+1 Scuba Jun 2014 #18
Hee. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #14
I know right? bravenak Jun 2014 #15
This actually worries me. redqueen Jun 2014 #16
I think they have known this before we did. bravenak Jun 2014 #17
This seems a little weird to me. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #19
It makes more sense that those married to minoities and those who have monority children, bravenak Jun 2014 #21
Might as well throw in the disabled, too. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #22
Yep. I would like to have them for myself and i think we can do better in our treatment of them. bravenak Jun 2014 #25
In South Africa whites are only 9% and control most of the wealth LittleBlue Jun 2014 #20
I haven't spent near enough time studying South Africa. bravenak Jun 2014 #24
Exactly LittleBlue Jun 2014 #29
That is very scary to read. bravenak Jun 2014 #31
One just needs to open their eyes! sheshe2 Jun 2014 #23
Diversity makes us whole. bravenak Jun 2014 #26
Oh, goodie, I can be included then! betsuni Jun 2014 #27
Welcome to the team!! bravenak Jun 2014 #28
Thank you, that's nice of you to say betsuni Jun 2014 #33
What? That is so sweet! bravenak Jun 2014 #34
My bottom says "Made in USA", Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #67
I think of it as the original communities coming back home. :) Starry Messenger Jun 2014 #30
Yeah baby!!! I was happy to find an article from her, and even happier that she read my mind.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #32
8/22 how fitting that'll be one of my daughters birthday azurnoir Jun 2014 #35
Good job!!! bravenak Jun 2014 #36
she's 3 of 4 azurnoir Jun 2014 #37
You have four daughters? bravenak Jun 2014 #38
3 daughters 1 son azurnoir Jun 2014 #40
Good job spacing it out. bravenak Jun 2014 #42
Lol it wasn't really on purpose azurnoir Jun 2014 #44
And the lesson Republicans learned from the Cantor loss is to hate Mexicans even more. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #39
What???? bravenak Jun 2014 #41
The Tea Party guy claimed Cantor was a "librul for amnety".... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #45
Oh, so double down on the hate? Usual practice, you are right.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #46
If people in his district see someone with a tan they freak that the Mexicans are taking over. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #56
What if Boehner shows up? bravenak Jun 2014 #58
Oompa Loompas.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #62
Winner!! bravenak Jun 2014 #65
Good Egnever Jun 2014 #43
The problem with these stories is you are making it whites vs everyone else davidn3600 Jun 2014 #47
This article is not whites vs. everyone else. And i am not the one who created the us vs them. bravenak Jun 2014 #50
That's exactly what the OP does AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #75
The including of spouses of minorities and the inclusions of lgbt and their families is done bravenak Jun 2014 #76
LGBT aren't racial minorities either AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #77
They are a minority group with protected status in many states under hate crime laws. bravenak Jun 2014 #78
LGBT aren't racial minorities AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #79
They never called them a 'racial' minority. bravenak Jun 2014 #80
Did anyone actually READ the article before the kicked and recommended? Kurska Jun 2014 #48
LOL! bravenak Jun 2014 #51
Oh hi Kurska Jun 2014 #52
Hai!! bravenak Jun 2014 #54
We really gotta stop meeting like this. Kurska Jun 2014 #55
You are too much! At least you're funny, and i'm sorry, you are one of us now. bravenak Jun 2014 #57
Oh my Kurska Jun 2014 #59
Don't worry we have a no handshake idiocy rule. bravenak Jun 2014 #60
I'm not sure about dap Kurska Jun 2014 #63
That's dap. You got this, you don't need me now. bravenak Jun 2014 #66
K&R. Reminds me of part of this song from 1982, strangely enough: freshwest Jun 2014 #49
It is good, i agree.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #53
You remember this tidbit about Boehner, right? freshwest Jun 2014 #61
I missed this! bravenak Jun 2014 #64
I think he's pushed by the more brutish members of his party and that's why he's a wreck. freshwest Jun 2014 #69
I feel for him when they start beating him up.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #70
And gerrymandering + low population states with equal representation in the senate means... killbotfactory Jun 2014 #68
A lot of baby boomers are acquiring minority status with age loyalsister Jun 2014 #71
I agree they should be included.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #73
Yep loyalsister Jun 2014 #81
Math is hard.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #82
KnR. Ah, the MSM...I think this must be the same kind of thinking that has them constantly.... Hekate Jun 2014 #72
They need to do anything they can to hold on to power and shape the narrative. bravenak Jun 2014 #74
Does that include women and disabled persons as a minority. If not I would bet we are already well jwirr Jun 2014 #83
I think it did not include disabled and i think that was a mistake. bravenak Jun 2014 #84
Thanks I do fit into that area. jwirr Jun 2014 #86
If it happens in mere months Harmony Blue Jun 2014 #85
I knew you couldn't resist.nt bravenak Jun 2014 #87
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
2. You're welcome.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:08 PM
Jun 2014

I noticed the author on HBO Latino recently and you can watch it with the subtitles on and watch the segments about Hispanic Actors and Artistic types. I love that channel. GOT is great in spanish.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
6. August of this year is the date.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jun 2014

Mass suicides or more terrorism is my fear. I hope they just decide to stop paying their KKK memberships and start trying to assimilate into the population.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
7. It's all LBJ's fault. The change in immigration law.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jun 2014


The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 (Pub.L. 89–236, 79 Stat. 911, enacted June 30, 1968), also known as the Hart–Celler Act,[1] abolished the National Origins Formula that had been in place in the United States since the Emergency Quota Act. It was proposed by Representative Emanuel Celler of New York, co-sponsored by Senator Philip Hart of Michigan, and promoted by Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts.

The Hart-Celler Act abolished the national origins quota system that was American immigration policy since the 1920s, replacing it with a preference system that focused on immigrants' skills and family relationships with citizens or U.S. residents. Numerical restrictions on visas were set at 170,000 per year, with a per-country-of-origin quota, not including immediate relatives of U.S. citizens, nor "special immigrants" (including those born in "independent" nations in the Western Hemisphere, former citizens, ministers, and employees of the U.S. government abroad).[1]

..............................................

The 1965 act marked a radical break from the immigration policies of the past. The law as it stood then excluded Asians and Africans and preferred northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern ones.[2] At the height of the civil rights movement of the 1960s the law was seen as an embarrassment by, among others, President John F. Kennedy, who called the then-quota-system "nearly intolerable".[3] After Kennedy's assassination, President Lyndon Johnson signed the bill at the foot of the Statue of Liberty as a symbolic gesture.

In order to convince the American people of the legislation's merits, its proponents assured that passage would not influence America's culture significantly. President Johnson called the bill "not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions",[4] while Secretary of State Dean Rusk estimated only a few thousand Indian immigrants over the next five years, and other politicians, including Senator Ted Kennedy, hastened to reassure the populace that the demographic mix would not be affected; these assertions would later prove grossly inaccurate.[5][


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. So exciting!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:55 PM
Jun 2014

I like how they added people in interracial relationships and those with minority children and close family in with minorities. It makes perfect sense to add them in with us since they are a big support system and it feels wrong to separate them and place them in different catagories.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
15. I know right?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:18 AM
Jun 2014

They thought i was joking and just being mean. I was off by twenty years it seems when you add people closely related to or married to minorities. They want to be included with us and i love that idea more than they do. I just told my mother in law that she's one of us now, and she's says she was before i was born and i need to catch up, i'm slow on the uptake.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
16. This actually worries me.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:20 AM
Jun 2014

Some of these racist pieces of shit have been seriously losing it recently. If only their fucked upness only resulted in themselves being harmed, instead of the innocent people around them.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
17. I think they have known this before we did.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:28 AM
Jun 2014

Thats why they have been acting all militant for the last few years. It's true that i worry about them harming others. This is where their communities and leaders need to step in and provide good role models for them and education so we can prevent the spread of w. right wing violence. With this rash of YWM violence tearing through the country in think they need to have a discussion about gun thug violence. And find a way to get the community leaders to pay attention.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. This seems a little weird to me.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:36 AM
Jun 2014
Using metrics that treat not just racial or ethnic numbers as factors, but also white “allies” — those whites whose children have married non-whites, who have a gay family, or who have proximity and acceptance to diversity — Garcia has developed a CulturEdge Countdown Clock. That clock tells us that the minority will become the majority on that day in late August, at precisely 7:56 p.m.


Correct me if I am wrong, but the author seems to be saying that whites will become the minority in late August if we pretend that white people whose children have married non-whites are no longer white themselves, and that gay people are not white, and that those whites who have "proximity and acceptance to diversity" are not really white. Don't get me wrong, I really do not give a shit what percentage my personal racial group happens to be in the general population, but it seems to be stretching things a little to do things like pretending that white gays are not "really" white to try to make some kind of point.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
21. It makes more sense that those married to minoities and those who have monority children,
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:40 AM
Jun 2014

are place in the same catagory. They are close relatives. And as you know Lgbt are a small minority and they experience much bigotry and i see no problem putting them in the minority catagory.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
25. Yep. I would like to have them for myself and i think we can do better in our treatment of them.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:46 AM
Jun 2014

I'll take them.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
20. In South Africa whites are only 9% and control most of the wealth
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jun 2014

We must still strive to economically empower these minority groups with fairer tax policies and creating jobs, even when they are collectively the majority.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
24. I haven't spent near enough time studying South Africa.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jun 2014

What you say is very intersting and i think you are right that we can and should do more to empower economically depressed groups, and i would include poor whites in this group that need targeted relief. Many have been poor for many generations and lived along side other poor groups since before the end of segregation. Poor white trash as they used to be called got treated some times much worse than a coveted slave with a trade like blacksmithing and were looked down upon ( by slaves and masters alike) and refused help and employment at times.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
29. Exactly
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:57 AM
Jun 2014

Without socio-economic mobility, we'll stagnate and sink back to the Middle Ages.

As for South Africa, I read this last year:

For the majority of black people who have lived under colonial rule for the best part of almost 400 years, five decades of which were under the guise of institutionalised racism, or apartheid, white privilege is still the barbed wire fence they must scale. Today, South Africa has the world's highest level of income inequality. And it is the black majority that still teeters precariously, at the bottom end of the scale. Ten per cent of the population controls 80% of the land.

The farce of South Africa's "miracle transition" is fast unravelling. The ANC is no longer the vanguard of the revolution; the beloved party has been caught on the frontline of the protection of white interests. And yes, despite the cold, hard facts of socioeconomic inequality, South Africa is subject to conflicting narratives. A non-racial South Africa simply cannot exist if 9% of one racial group earn six times more than the majority.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/21/south-africa-white-privilege-afrikaner

Interesting stats when you consider that the political system in SA is almost wholly controlled by the black majority, who constitute 80% of the nation.

It makes me realize that even if the economically underprivileged controlled 95% of the House and Senate, the task of easing economic inequality would still be a huge, huge challenge.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. That is very scary to read.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

We really have to make sure our people are more informed and pick the right leadership. I can understand the frustration with corporate centered Democrats, and we need to get enough voter to take back the house in order to give our politician permission to effect change by demanding that they do. We have to get angry. We have to be resolute. And i think we may have to get out there and march on Washhington and stay until they notice us. And not an astroturf movement, something real and broad and diverse. I hope it happens soon.

sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
23. One just needs to open their eyes!
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:44 AM
Jun 2014

We are a beautiful melting pot. Our colors are vibrant and we blend so very well together.

A rich and vibrant future, and it is going to be here tomorrow. I look forward to that.

Thanks bravenak!

betsuni

(25,519 posts)
27. Oh, goodie, I can be included then!
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jun 2014

My husband was Made in Japan, I can see the label if I look on the bottom.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
67. My bottom says "Made in USA",
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:09 AM
Jun 2014

and it's almost always the only imported bottom in the intercity buses I ride.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
38. You have four daughters?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:25 AM
Jun 2014

I have two. I bet the one on fourth of july has a kick ass party every year. I know i would. i still want two more kids , but i think i might wait a few years or until just before i'm 40. Or never. I forgot about the poop for a second.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
40. 3 daughters 1 son
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:27 AM
Jun 2014

I was almost 41 when he was born my oldest was a couple weeks shy of 20, so if I'm a breeder I took my time about it

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
42. Good job spacing it out.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:30 AM
Jun 2014

My mom had two before 20 and got and iud and gave up. I'm glad i had fun before i decided to have any . And i had fun like you wouldn't believe. One day i'll write an op on my seedy past and get everyone in a tizzy.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
44. Lol it wasn't really on purpose
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:37 AM
Jun 2014

we'll just call my son 'baby surprise' or as I've put it that moment when the Dr came back into the room and said guess what it's not menopause

but in all honesty I can say that I was a much better Mom at 41 than I was at 21

I remember overhearing one of my daughters telling her little brother "look boy if you're going to try to pull something on Mom you're going to have to be really good your #4 and she already knows all the tricks"

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. What????
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:28 AM
Jun 2014

I missed that part. I need to look that up and check it out. It is so hard being born during the reagan revolution. All my childhood filled with right-wing nonsense. They left so much out of the history books that i missed so many things i should have learned. Like the labor/union movement was one chapter with ten pages. I had to look it up at Loussac Library.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
45. The Tea Party guy claimed Cantor was a "librul for amnety"....
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jun 2014

At least that's what the yard signs read.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
47. The problem with these stories is you are making it whites vs everyone else
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:25 AM
Jun 2014

Race relations isn't that simple. I've known Latinos that are just as racist against blacks as whites can be. So to suggest this really changes anything is a bit naive.

Race relations is far more complex than population numbers. The question concerning the future is not which race has the most people...but will fair-skinned or white-skinned people (regardless of their race) still be privileged in society more than dark-skinned or black-skinned people? That's the giant question..... The raw numbers alone doesn't change the privilege issue. There are several countries where a racial/ethnic minority holds all the power.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
50. This article is not whites vs. everyone else. And i am not the one who created the us vs them.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:32 AM
Jun 2014

You know who started that stuff and now we live within that framework.
It includes whites with connections to minorities and lgbt and their families in the group with minorities. Also, i cannot take credit for the article, i did not write it.
Some latinos are black. Look at my pic. There you see a woman who speaks spanish and has an hispanic surname. And first name. My middle name is Arab.
I am accepted in the hispanic community and yes there are issues between hispanics and Blacks because they get pitted against each other.
We need to work on the privilege issue but i think we will have less trouble in the future than we did in the past.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
75. That's exactly what the OP does
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

The OP/ED that the OP is based on fudges the numbers intentionally. The US census bureau estimated last year that the country will reach the 50/50 ratio by 2043, not this August. By the measure of the OP, my white brother in law is a minority because his wife is African American. That is just plain ludicrous.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
76. The including of spouses of minorities and the inclusions of lgbt and their families is done
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jun 2014

On purpose. Also the parents of minority children are grouped in with their children instead of separating parent from child and placing them in separate catagories. It makes perfect sense to me to group close relatives together instead of counting them separately. August is the date.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
77. LGBT aren't racial minorities either
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jun 2014

Your OP is a whole lotta wishful thinking. It says more about you than anything else.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
78. They are a minority group with protected status in many states under hate crime laws.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jun 2014

They are a minority.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
79. LGBT aren't racial minorities
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:28 PM
Jun 2014

No matter how much you wish they were. Neither is my white brother in law, no matter how much you wish it so. Your obsession with Caucasians, and endless attempts, in OP after OP after OP after OP, at fomenting racial division in the Democratic party says more about you than them.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
80. They never called them a 'racial' minority.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

So you think i'm obsessed with white people huh? I live in a white nation. I am black and i am white. I guess my white part doesn't count. I have to only talk about black stuff. I wonder if my native american part counts.
The anger you have at me discussing things that affect me is very telling. Who are you to tell me that i am not white enough to speak? I just as white as i am black and near about that much native american. 1/3, 1/3, and 1/3. I can speak on issues if i please. If the majority would accept their mixed offspring as one of them i would not have this problem to discuss.
You can trash the thread.
Have you ever thought that maybe i just find white people fascinating? Could be i'm just attracted to them.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
48. Did anyone actually READ the article before the kicked and recommended?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:28 AM
Jun 2014

Since when are gay people and their families automatically not white? Since when are people who marry minorities not white? Since when are people who live in proximity or support diversity (whatever that means)

This has to be a joke. Don't forget the Irish they aren't really "white" either.



Article seems more like a Klan member wrote it talking about how "race traitors" aren't white.

Good grief.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
57. You are too much! At least you're funny, and i'm sorry, you are one of us now.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:42 AM
Jun 2014

I claimed you, you are a part of the pack. Live with it.

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
59. Oh my
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:47 AM
Jun 2014

So I get to go to the secret meetings now right?

Fair warning, I will NEVER get the handshake down.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
60. Don't worry we have a no handshake idiocy rule.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:48 AM
Jun 2014

Now that we are coming up in the world we must not be vulgar. Dap will do just fine.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
49. K&R. Reminds me of part of this song from 1982, strangely enough:
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:29 AM
Jun 2014
New World Man by Rush (Canadian band)

He's a rebel and a runner
He's a signal turning green
He's a restless young romantic
Wants to run the big machine

He's got a problem with his poisons
But you know he'll find a cure
He's cleaning up his systems
To keep his nature pure

Learning to match the beat of the old world man
Learning to catch the heat of the third world man

He's got to make his own mistakes
And learn to mend the mess he makes
He's old enough to know what's right
But young enough not to choose it

He's noble enough to win the world
But weak enough to lose it
He's a new world man

He's a radio receiver
Tuned to factories and farms
He's a writer and arranger
And a young boy bearing arms

He's got a problem with his power
With weapons on patrol
He's got to walk a fine line
And keep his self-control

Trying to save the day for the old world man
Trying to pave the way for the third world man

He's not concerned with yesterday
He knows constant change is here today
He's noble enough to know what's right
But weak enough not to choose it

He's wise enough to win the world
But fool enough to lose it
He's a new world man

Learning to match the beat of the old world man
He's learning to catch the heat of the third world man
He's a new world man, he's a new world man


We are almost there after being detoured so often. The world unites within us, as was planned. And it is good.


freshwest

(53,661 posts)
61. You remember this tidbit about Boehner, right?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:49 AM
Jun 2014
John Boehner gains a new son...



to HipChick:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022839835

Racism was invented for the bottom feeders. The really powerful people know race is not a determining factor to family life or success. Those who cling to it need help.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
64. I missed this!
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:54 AM
Jun 2014

Wow i am not surprised at all. The lines are blurred and i discovered that republicans recently are not actually mostly racists. They mostly hate poor people.

She is lovely and i am sure Boehner is proud and waiting for a grandchild from the union. I secretly think he's one of the normal republicans and the crazy ones just get most of the attention.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
69. I think he's pushed by the more brutish members of his party and that's why he's a wreck.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:26 AM
Jun 2014

He is a jerk in many ways, but almost like a baby in others. And jerks are by their nature immature, IMO. I believe he really does respect Obama but he's in bondage to his patrons.

Boehner is a follower, not a leader. He just was in the right place at the right time to get a wealthy patron and he's lived off that.

I think when he looks at PBO he wonders what his life might have been if he followed the right path.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
68. And gerrymandering + low population states with equal representation in the senate means...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:20 AM
Jun 2014

It won't change a thing for years to come.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
71. A lot of baby boomers are acquiring minority status with age
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:32 AM
Jun 2014

People with disabilities are the largest minority (about 20%) and growing because of disability acquired through age.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
81. Yep
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:37 PM
Jun 2014

I once had a conversation with my sister where she said "I know you think you're a minority." I asked how can you argue that I'm not there are fewer people who have disabilities than those who don't.

It seems that there are people here who have trouble counting, too.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
72. KnR. Ah, the MSM...I think this must be the same kind of thinking that has them constantly....
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:38 AM
Jun 2014

... presenting the GOP as the "default political party"; that is, the "real" party no matter who the majority is in Congress or who the POTUS is; the political party by which the "other party" (i.e. the Dems) is measured.

Lazy, complicit, MSM.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
74. They need to do anything they can to hold on to power and shape the narrative.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:41 AM
Jun 2014

I rarely watch news anymore, i prefer to look for it on the internet.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
83. Does that include women and disabled persons as a minority. If not I would bet we are already well
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:50 PM
Jun 2014

on our way to being a political majority. I cannot wait and I am white.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
84. I think it did not include disabled and i think that was a mistake.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:58 PM
Jun 2014

Or women. . But family members of minorities and lgbt are included. So you probably fit in one category or another.

Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
85. If it happens in mere months
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jun 2014

why all the consternation about privilege?

Many times my fellow liberals confound me as they sound just as tone deaf as conservatives talking about entitlements.

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