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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 06:28 AM Jun 2014

Why Does the Right Embrace Ignorance as a Virtue?

Dismissing facts and science has become a staple of conservative ideology.

Spouting off about stuff you know nothing about is traditionally considered unwise. But as the Republican war on science intensifies, ignorance has started to become not only less of a handicap, but a point of pride. In the face of expertise and facts, being belligerently ignorant—and offended that anyone dare suggest ignorance is less desirable than knowledge—has become the go-to position for many conservative politicians and pundits. Sadly, it’s a strategy that’s working, making it harder every day for liberals to argue the value of evidence and reason over wishful thinking and unblinking prejudice.

The strategy of holding out ignorance to be the equivalent of expertise and simply daring your opponents to try to do anything about it was epitomized recently in the Ohio legislature. Republican state legislator John Becker introduced a bill that would ban all insurance plans in the state from covering abortion. It was a horribly misogynist and intrusive bill, but Becker didn’t stop at just trying to outlaw abortion coverage. He also insisted that IUDs, the most effective contraception available, be outlawed from insurance coverage. His reasoning was that he believes IUDs cause abortion, because he believes they work by killing fertilized eggs.

http://www.alternet.org/belief/why-does-right-embrace-ignorance-virtue

Oh, and don't forget Gohmert-ing. Where you spill words out of your mouth that makes no sense...at....all.
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Why Does the Right Embrace Ignorance as a Virtue? (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP
Because the only way TPTB can stay in power is to keep their followers stupid. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #1
That's it, exactly Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #21
In my experience, these people are going to reject any knowledge Arkansas Granny Jun 2014 #2
Yep! They bring their ignorance and blind allegiance to RKP5637 Jun 2014 #5
Simple: Facts do not support their ideology liberal N proud Jun 2014 #3
Precisely Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2014 #6
There was an article I read on here a while back about a study showing people raouldukelives Jun 2014 #13
Reagan GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #4
self delete raccoon Jun 2014 #7
This dismissive attitude has been around for quite awhile in this society aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #8
Blazing Saddles: FSogol Jun 2014 #9
Because it's their only and last defense Zambero Jun 2014 #10
Easy. WilliamPitt Jun 2014 #11
Because the Bible tells them to: Shampoobra Jun 2014 #12
Because they think what they know is true and thus not ignorant. Johonny Jun 2014 #14
George Bush and "nucular" Ratty Jun 2014 #15
Jimmy Carter pronounced it that way, too Art_from_Ark Jun 2014 #22
It's an old American tradition. DavidDvorkin Jun 2014 #16
Read Anti-Intellectualism in America written in the 60s. Won the Pulitzer. snagglepuss Jun 2014 #17
I actually think that part of it is ... jimlup Jun 2014 #18
Because "ignorance" is their business. they know they have a captive Cha Jun 2014 #19
Same Reason Slave Owners... Who Actually OWNED Slaves... Were Not Allowed To Teach Them How To Read WillyT Jun 2014 #20

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
2. In my experience, these people are going to reject any knowledge
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 06:43 AM
Jun 2014

that does not agree with their interpretation of the bible.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
5. Yep! They bring their ignorance and blind allegiance to
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:22 AM
Jun 2014

the table, hence making them easy prey for manipulation by politicians using their belief structures as conduits to use for manipulation.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
6. Precisely
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:27 AM
Jun 2014

The facts do not support their ideology, so rather than say, "I should re-think my ideology", they reject the facts.

I have been saying for years that ignorance of history, political theory, economics and science is extremely helpful to conservatives (and required for libertarians).

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
13. There was an article I read on here a while back about a study showing people
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jun 2014

with deep seated beliefs of any mindset not only were unreceptive to cold, hard facts but actually dug in their heels more. It appears that for many unenlightened people, the more you tell them, the literal less they will know.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
8. This dismissive attitude has been around for quite awhile in this society
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:57 AM
Jun 2014

The word "egghead" has long been used to disparage thinkers and those who try to rely on facts and evidence. It's what Richard Nixon called Democratic candidate Adlai Stevenson when I was young. Calling someone an "intellectual" is almost an epithet in some circles. I've heard Republicans accuse both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama of being dreaded intellectuals. In American society, students who don't play football or cheerlead but prefer to read books and carry on intelligent conversations in the classroom are put down as nerds or geeks. The term "ivory tower liberal" used to bash a college professor who might have some expert words of advice on a topic has also been used by the right when they don't like what he has to say.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
9. Blazing Saddles:
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jun 2014

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
10. Because it's their only and last defense
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:52 AM
Jun 2014

Craft fictitious talking points, throw in a wedge issue or two to create bias, repeat the lie often enough, and you can get incurious weak-minded sheep to believe in just about anything.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
11. Easy.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:56 AM
Jun 2014

A stupid population is easier to control and manipulate.

And when you frighten them with mythology and vapors, they vacuum up quarters from between the couch cushions to send to your campaign, so you can "save them."

Dumb is lucrative.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
12. Because the Bible tells them to:
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jun 2014

First Corinthians 1:27: "But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong."

In other words, "can't argue with stupid" is the Christian motto. Because, see, if you're smarter than a Christian, you're doing the devil's work.

Johonny

(20,841 posts)
14. Because they think what they know is true and thus not ignorant.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jun 2014

If they were all poorly educated fools then you could understand easy. But look at Dave Brat. He's a highly educated man with several degrees. He clearly knows a lot and has read a lot and yet he comes off an ignorant fool. Why? People that are highly educated are skilled in arguing. They thus can convince themselves that something impossibly to be true is not only true but that you are a fool to not believe them. When you hear a highly educated person argue against gay marriage or for the end of separation in church in state they can sound intelligent, make convincing arguments etc. They just happen to be horribly, terribly wrong. When something you want to be true is argued to you from a position of authority people will believe.

They embrace ignorance because obviously they don't see their views as ignorant. The echo chamber that has been constructed on the right makes it easier and easier to reaffirm weird beliefs and find what seem to be reasonable arguments to support this view. Without ever having to confront facts counter to their view... why would they think anything else?

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
15. George Bush and "nucular"
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jun 2014

You had to know many many people told him his pronunciation of nuclear was wrong and made him look like a moron. But that George, didn't want to seem all high and mighty and over edumacated to the common man. He pronounced it nucular, as a badge of pride and that'll show them ivory tower liberal professor types.

I think the Republican hatred of intelligence stems from three things: teacher-initiated prayer not being allowed in public schools, sex education in public schools, and the theory of evolution. They have perceived these things as an attack by the educated on God, the Bible, and their Christian way of life. Ever since the Scopes trial they've regarded our system of schools and universities with great distrust and began to hate anything that smacked in any way of intelligence. That has only persisted and grown to the situation we have today.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
18. I actually think that part of it is ...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:35 PM
Jun 2014

that some of the Republican rank and file hated that "smart" kid in school who, from their perspective, always had things come easy for them. Thus they eagerly embrace ignorance because it is a way for them to self identify as not being that "smart kid" whom they hate.

And they really didn't get what that smart kid was saying anyway so as a self defense mechanism they decided to belittle it. Thus when we try to talk reason to them they hear exactly what Charlie Brown's teacher sounds like in the cartoon: "wah.. wah...aw... wah... wah" They have, in fact, worked quite hard NOT to hear what we are saying and they actively work to dismiss it.

This is how some in the rank and file see it. The leaders on the other hand play the game for political opportunity and not because they are specifically stupid (though some, but definitely not all, actually are.)

Cha

(297,196 posts)
19. Because "ignorance" is their business. they know they have a captive
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jun 2014

brainwashed audience thanks to fox "news" and limbaughs and their wannabes.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
20. Same Reason Slave Owners... Who Actually OWNED Slaves... Were Not Allowed To Teach Them How To Read
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:44 PM
Jun 2014
Or Write.


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