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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMcCain is on CNN talking about how he and Lindsay G had negotiated an offer to
keep troops in Iraq at the same time the President was making an offer that was rejected. He is worse than what his party accuses Berghdal of being. If the duly elected President is in negotiations with a foreign country, how can you and your buddy, Lindsay go in and undercut him? And with no shame he sits on all the shows and brags about it. Disgusting, just disgusting!!!
malaise
(268,966 posts)and he should simply 'get fugging lost'
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)malaise
(268,966 posts)TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)malaise
(268,966 posts)I thought I might point them out
panader0
(25,816 posts)malaise
(268,966 posts)appropriate
FSogol
(45,481 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)warmongering bastard needs to go himself along with the other two amigos..Oldies love war especially ones who never fought.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)you are wicked,lady.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)tell him to send his family, the whole f*cking bu$h family and the GFY cheney family. Conservanazis want wars. Let them send their own to fight them.
The conservanazis created the disaster in Iraq, let them go straighten it out.
bu$h/cheney attacked Iraq because of two things: bu$h wanted revenge on Saddam Hussien and GFY and Halliburton wanted oil and military dollars.
History has proven that Iraq was doing okay and functioning until bu$h/cheney came along and destroyed it's government and society.
Conservanazis, deal with it.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Cheney and Bush? Lol.
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)If they are of the right age...guarantees no more unnecessary wars for profit or ego
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Can anyone bring me up to speed with Cliff Notes?
malaise
(268,966 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,146 posts)Beginning on June 12. All three threads were hidden, but if you are curious you can find them in his journal. Two of the threads show female nudity (one with breast-feeding and another with childbirth). No NSFW warnings in thread titles were part of the controversy. Bait-and-switch thread titles, provocative and he refused to alter the thread titles to include a warning when requested.
Warpy
(111,254 posts)so any picture of a woman nursing a baby (or about to) has to be marked NSFW.
You know, same old, same old.
spanone
(135,829 posts)fuck off
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Isn't this grounds for removal from the Congress?
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Not in this country -- well, not if you're a Republican, anyway.
If you're a Democrat or an Independent and try that shit, well, that's another story...
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)McCain has admitted he blatantly violated the Logan Act.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Next up: Palin was negotiating with Putin? LOLOLOL
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That's a felony that can carry a sentence of up to three years.
The Logan Act
jwirr
(39,215 posts)is as close to treason as I have seen.
malaise
(268,966 posts)In fact he never cared that he lost -he operates as if he is PResident.
The word is treason.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)elleng
(130,882 posts)is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.
The Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. [1]
Passed under the administration of President John Adams, during tension between the U.S. and France.
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Hear that McLame? Probably should start looking for a new line of work since you know what happened to the last guy.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)elleng
(130,882 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)elleng
(130,882 posts)'shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.'
Rex
(65,616 posts)Told that the GOP would NEVER work one iota to help him move the country forward. NOW, after a second term, he probably just shakes his head and wonders how America ever survived the GOP in the first place. IOW, he thinks of them as weak and pathetic creatures he should take pity on.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)However, they McCain and a lot of other Republicans seem to want to stir up actual violence by rightwingers.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Maybe Obama is just waiting for them to go too far (something they cannot just hide away) and then will pounce on them in a heartbeat for stirring up rebellion.
I really think (my own speculation) is that Obama knows it is healthier for him to pity them, then stay constantly furious at the things they do. Which doesn't mean secretly he is not fuming about their behavior, but doesn't want to let on - just think it would be the topic on Foxnews for months, "POTUS out of control and unstable...yadda yadda."
He has to be careful with what he says and does, plus Obama is always at situational awareness green...something rare in POTUSes imo.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)I just wish national politics didn't look like good cop-bad cop Kabuki theatre most of the time.
elleng
(130,882 posts)I LOVE IT! Yes, he IS!
Hekate
(90,662 posts)...was taken out. Behind the scenes, complicated plans coming to fruition. In front of the cameras at the Correspondents' Dinner, an alternating poker face and laughing witty repartee.
How do you gauge what "bothers" President Obama sufficiently?
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)so all I have to go on is what I can see, and I see him being polite to people who are trying to destroy him.
Hekate
(90,662 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)I'm thirsty for truths, not centrist memes.
elleng
(130,882 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)i don't think he would have reached as high as he has without having that quality .
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)see Nixon in '68, negotiating with the Vietnamese to hold out for a "better deal" and Raygun in 1980 re the embassy hostages (not to mention St Ronnie trading arms to Iran for the hostages in Lebanon several years later.
No government is legitimate but theirs.
elleng
(130,882 posts)which EVERYONE should remember ALWAYS.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Warpy
(111,254 posts)Graham is going to have to go out feet first, having died of old age and stupidity and not being noticed until the smell got too bad.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Be a really good reminder to continue voting Democrat forever.