I won't hold my breath waiting for justice for these incompetent criminals.

Bar get lower and never got fix.

Bad example. Bad direction. Bad result.

Where do we go from here?

Being a straight downward path to the bottom since then.

According to the ICC charter after a threshold of member nations signed on than ALL NATIONS fell under it's jurisdiction.

That happened just after the invasion of Iraq and Bush's lawyers told him that since courts can't prosecute for lawbreaking prior to a law going into effect...(but fuck Bush's lawyers)

This is why they were in such a panic about the torture.

Israel, Sudan, Iraq and the US, as best I can recall, probably missing a few. I was appalled when GW Bush, the war criminal, 'unsigned' the US from the treaty.

Agree, fuck the bush's lawyers.

jumped out at me.

"Independentfilmnewsandmedia.com." Hmmm...

is the best justice gets in terms of its independence.

Absent a Security Council recommendation, which could be vetoed by the US. So this is generally not correct.

n/t

pardons by Pres O???

Dont you agree that Pres O will pardon the bastards?

prosecution. They have already been found guilty in one court, although the jurisdiction in that court is in question.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-war-crimes-tribunal-bush-convicted-in-absentia-it-s-official-george-w-bush-is-a-war-criminal/30839

The US and Iraq are not members of the International Criminal Court, so it does not have ordinary jurisdiction, the case would have to be referred by the Security Council, where the US holds a veto. So your statement that he has no power in the situation is not correct, the US president has quite a bit of power over international law and institutions.

And the President has no power to pardon them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kuala-lumpur-war-crimes-tribunal-bush-convicted-in-absentia-it-s-official-george-w-bush-is-a-war-criminal/30839

As I explained above, the president has an effective veto over Americans being sent to the ICC.

The issuance of a presidential pardon is sort of like the Forgiveness of Sins lol, inherent to the ACCEPTING of the pardon is the acknowledgement of the pardoned persons that INDEED, crimes were comitted. It would be fun to see if any of them are smart enough to say "well I didn't accept the President's Pardon, why would I need to I did nothing wrong."..
I bet only Tricky Deck Cheney would be slippery enough to try it. The rest are just too dumb.
And that's something that can get printed in every history textbook until the end of time.

would condemn the war criminals and ask Iraq and the world to forgive us.

Cause Cheney will be the first one to keel over, and the outright screaming tantrum of the rest would reveal a good deal lol...

... about the ICC. But I do know that GWB did not sign on as a signatory of it when he was in office (I think it was just before GWB Adm invaded Iraq.) I distinctly remember a press conference where he pooh-poohed International Law & the ICC. I knew right then why he didn't want nothing to do with International Law or International Criminal Court. Because the USA is above the "Law." And he was getting ready to go on a world-law-breaking tirade.

This article is not keen on the ICC, International Law, the United Nations, Richard Clarke or Amy Goodman and Democracy Now. Alex Newman, the author (as well as the benign sounding "Independent Film News and Media" and "The New American&quot is a vehement right winger, or at least someone who is gung-ho for the military industrial complex (probably a chicken-hawk, himself, as they all are.) If anyone wants to know the truth of what Richard Clarke said, go to http://www.DemocracyNow and check last week's shows for the transcript of the interview.

Ha! The dude calls the ICC a "Kangaroo Court"! The only grandaddy of Kangaroo Courts is the USG. It investigates itself and finds itself innocent every time!

it was a multi-national effort. I don't see the UN doing any prosecution.

such war criminals quiver at the thought of going before the ICC even if in absentia.

...our government, including Democrats, have chosen to ignore their crimes.

America never makes mistakes.