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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow much of Putin's and Isis' aggression can be traced back to the GOP
attacking Obama's foreign policy starting with Benghazi? Used to be standing behind the President of the USA on Foreign Policy was sacrosanct. That made for perceptions of might. Bush's wars, and attacking Obama has made the USA look less strong.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)ISIS is a religiously-powered militant group that is a result of western folly in the Middle East and Saudi meddling. It is a push back against real injury inflicted upon far too many people there by the outside world.
Putin is pushing back against the oh-so-clever-(NOT) attempts by US and EU to put NATO on Russia's borders and to steal its warm water ports on the Black Sea, not to mention the recent war for gas and oil pipelines, gas and oil field assets in the Black Sea, and customers.
The GOP is merely exploiting these epic policy failures and over-reaching Imperial grabs (some of which are decades if not a century old) to bash Democrats around the head and shoulders, and to baffle the public with their bullshit. The GOP probably supports these efforts, showing that they are no smarter than the Administration, and equally firmly in the pockets of Big Multinational Corporations.
applegrove
(118,654 posts)of ISIS or Putin. I meant these recent attacks. Are they taking advantage of American airing their dirty laundry.
Tommy_Carcetti
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His actions are the result of a narrow window wherein he saw the ability to claim land he viewed as historically Russian, to the detriment of a neighboring country that had just gone through a process of rough regime change after years of corruption at the top and wasn't in a position to really fight back.
That being said, I don't know how much of his actions can be directly traced to President Obama, either.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)Repackaged under the guise of fighting the great Western enemy. Make no mistake, Western capitalist ventures into the Middle East have an impact on the growth and actions of groups like ISIS or the Taliban. But only in the sense that it gives them a common enemy to justify their hunger for power and domination.
Western capitalists and Islamic fundamentalists are adversaries only in the sense that they are actually doppelgangers born of the same ideological drive, with the same ideological goals competing over the same thing.
The moment you say we have created these religious fundamentalist movements is the moment you admit that they have created our own economic fundamentalism. They are born of the same source and influence each other. One is not the child of the other.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You know... the universe doesn't actually revolve around partisan politics in the United States.
applegrove
(118,654 posts)for foreign policy, a 180 degree tell or projection, has had no effect on the actions of psychopaths the world over?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I mean really, the fact that you have to come to a message board nd try to drum up ideas for how to make that particular argument is kind of a statement on how weak the attempt IS.
There's plenty of shit to go after the republicans for without having to tie every world event to them. That's the shit htey pull , and they look like capering idiots for it.
Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)The twin wars only gave motivation for outsiders to take advantage of our weakness because it made us look more capable. Underneath it all, we have always been capitalist fundamentalists. We've always been blind, nationalist pigs.
Unfortunately, how we've imposed our piggishness throughout the world over the past few decades has had considerable impact on our relationship with other fundamentalists in other parts of the planet.
Like one drug cartel encroaching into territory of another, the US cartel is suffering the reflection of its own brutality and greed back upon itself by another group of equal brutishness and misanthrope. One is not the child of the other. We've simply found competing interest.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Wait until the Capitalists pick some other nation-state for their Enforcers....although, I can't think of one of equal resources and stupidity willing to sign up for the job. Certainly not the Chinese, and probably not India. Other nations simply haven't the economic or population resources.