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elleng

(131,197 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 03:57 PM Jun 2014

I was informed yesterday, by e-mail: 'POLL RELEASED MINUTES AGO

Last edited Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)

In Nate Silver’s “tipping point state” for Senate control, NC DEM HAGAN IS UP FIVE, 39-34!!! IT’S HER LARGEST LEAD SINCE SEPTEMBER! Let’s crush the GOP while they’re down -- all gifts DOUBLED FOR JUST 24 HOURS!!

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/dsccab4?refcode=DPE-20140617-PollAlert-ProsHV&amounts=3,10,25,50,100,150,250&amount=3 '

I thought this would be of interest to DUers, which it has proven to be, and I included the attached link to actblue, for convenience. I am so 'sorry' to those who think I was posting to 'bait and switch.'

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I was informed yesterday, by e-mail: 'POLL RELEASED MINUTES AGO (Original Post) elleng Jun 2014 OP
Good! hrmjustin Jun 2014 #1
39-34 yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #27
that is scary. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author SkyDaddy7 Jun 2014 #45
Fist pump. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #2
Polling data seems to back them up nxylas Jun 2014 #10
GOTV hell yeah. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #14
Yay! NC_Nurse Jun 2014 #3
This is a big one, DU. This is where the Kochs need to be repelled. blm Jun 2014 #4
YES!! octoberlib Jun 2014 #5
Thanks for posting! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #6
Finally, good news. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #7
Thanks! UCmeNdc Jun 2014 #8
now, if the turtle man can lose, I'd consider that a huge accomplishment..... a kennedy Jun 2014 #9
Kay Hagan had a volunteer door knocking in our neighborhood on Saturday afternoon mnhtnbb Jun 2014 #11
Let's make electon day Ladies' Night! DFW Jun 2014 #12
K&R treestar Jun 2014 #13
Franken, Minnesota, +11, Peters, Michigan, +9, Warner+17, Virginia, it is now democrats on top, Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #15
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2014 #16
I Certainly Hope This Holds, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2014 #17
Hagan, rhymes with obxhead Jun 2014 #18
except this is her FIRST term as a Senator in NC... ms liberty Jun 2014 #19
goodie! flamingdem Jun 2014 #20
Very low and underhanded trick MattBaggins Jun 2014 #21
I am VERY sorry for this 'low and underhanded trick,' elleng Jun 2014 #22
Elleng YOU have NO reason to apologize.....at all. onecent Jun 2014 #31
Thanks. elleng Jun 2014 #38
Agreed, don't understand that at all. Keep on bringing good news and how to win elections! freshwest Jun 2014 #41
Thanks, freshwest! elleng Jun 2014 #42
Didn't "contribute" in the link, along with amounts, give it away? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #24
Sounds like it, WorseBeforeBetter, elleng Jun 2014 #36
Well, at least this non-troversy is keeping your thread kicked... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2014 #39
Right, it sure is! elleng Jun 2014 #40
Uhhhh what part of onecent Jun 2014 #29
I read the thing perfectly MattBaggins Jun 2014 #30
Thanks, onecent. elleng Jun 2014 #35
You are thanking him for being wrong? MattBaggins Jun 2014 #37
crush the GOP 90-percent Jun 2014 #23
Don't forget "Poll Alerts" MattBaggins Jun 2014 #25
To what are you referring? elleng Jun 2014 #26
No even the link refrences the poll MattBaggins Jun 2014 #28
encouraging news, elleng. thank you for the post. hopemountain Jun 2014 #33
Thanks, hopemountain. elleng Jun 2014 #34
Thom Tillis: Hissyspit Jun 2014 #43
but let's trot out an old ass, uh er, donkey to get a handle on the situation tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #44
Obnoxious bait-and-switch Android3.14 Jun 2014 #46
Thanks elleng Android3.14 Jun 2014 #48
Crossroads GPS has been running nyabingi Jun 2014 #47
Don't believe in Polls HoosierCowboy Jun 2014 #49
Hope everyone plans on getting Dems out to vote urbuddha Jun 2014 #50
Damn right, urbuddha. elleng Jun 2014 #51
Here's more info about the poll itself. pnwmom Jun 2014 #52
Thanks, pnwmom. elleng Jun 2014 #53
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
27. 39-34
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jun 2014

Goodness a ton of undecideds. That is 27 percent that are not sure who they will vote for or want someone else.

Response to hrmjustin (Reply #32)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
2. Fist pump.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

I keep telling my republican co-workers, they still have at least one more election cycle to spend in the wilderness, more if they don't change on a bunch of issues.

They don't listen, which is fine, because it helps my prediction come true...

blm

(113,110 posts)
4. This is a big one, DU. This is where the Kochs need to be repelled.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 04:50 PM
Jun 2014

They specifically targeted this state because it is the new Ohio - a bellwether that actually leans blue.

mnhtnbb

(31,408 posts)
11. Kay Hagan had a volunteer door knocking in our neighborhood on Saturday afternoon
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014

when it was about 90 degrees outside. Of course, it's Chapel Hill, where she will crush Tillis
by about 30 points come November.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
12. Let's make electon day Ladies' Night!
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

Grimes, Nunn, and ALL our incumbent women in Congress (even Mary Landrieu, considering the alternative!)

It wouldn't surprise me if there were a SCOTUS vacancy or two in the next 18 months. I know who I want shouting down the filibuster of Cruz-you-lose.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. Franken, Minnesota, +11, Peters, Michigan, +9, Warner+17, Virginia, it is now democrats on top,
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:05 PM
Jun 2014

media will not let you know, they have to play up the cons, it is their mission.

The Magistrate

(95,257 posts)
17. I Certainly Hope This Holds, Ma'am
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jun 2014

We need this seat and this win.

But you will understand 39% does not leave me so sanguine as I would like to be.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
18. Hagan, rhymes with
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jun 2014

Let me repuke.

She runs an office dedicated to corporate profits and environmental destruction.

Oh, she also promised to retire years ago.

ms liberty

(8,608 posts)
19. except this is her FIRST term as a Senator in NC...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:28 PM
Jun 2014

I don't love her myself, but she has a D after her name, and she needs to win this election against a REAL repuke - State Senator Tom Tillis.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
21. Very low and underhanded trick
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jun 2014

You knew people would think the link you provided would lead to a story about the poll. Instead it goes to a donation site.

All in all it is a bit dishonest to do that. You should indicate where the link goes.

elleng

(131,197 posts)
22. I am VERY sorry for this 'low and underhanded trick,'
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:00 PM
Jun 2014

Baggins. I posted the text from an e-mail, which I think is of general interest here, and the responses have proven that thought to be correct. I included the attached contribution form for convenience, and it is clear the link goes to actblue, which most know is for contributions. You are welcome to ignore either one or both.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
31. Elleng YOU have NO reason to apologize.....at all.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jun 2014

Glad to see the post...it was obvious you have nothing to apologize for.

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
39. Well, at least this non-troversy is keeping your thread kicked...
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jun 2014

with focus on Hagan v. Tillis!

from NC.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
29. Uhhhh what part of
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jun 2014

-- all gifts DOUBLED FOR JUST 24 HOURS!!

DIDN'T YOU UNDERSTAND??????????????????

nasty post, when you haven't read it right yourself.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
23. crush the GOP
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jun 2014

of course I'm in favor. but watch for unintended consequences. I was captain of my dart team 12 years ago. One match left, the game 601 and we were on the double out before the other team got their double on. I told my team; "Rip their lungs out, guys!" and that whipped up our opponents so bad they took the match!

Hey, so sometimes channeling Hunter S. Thompson can backfire.

-90% jimmy

PS - i also got the donation email and paypalled an amount comparable to what the Koch bros donate in 37 milliseconds.

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
25. Don't forget "Poll Alerts"
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:22 PM
Jun 2014

yet has nothing on the page about the poll.

Simple honesty would have been nice.

elleng

(131,197 posts)
26. To what are you referring?
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jun 2014

The OP leads with: P0LL RELEASED MINUTES AGO.

The only 'error' I will acknowledge is my failure to place the entire post in "quotation marks."

MattBaggins

(7,905 posts)
28. No even the link refrences the poll
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jun 2014

But there is no poll results at the link, just a sign up page... That is misleading and dishonest.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
33. encouraging news, elleng. thank you for the post.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jun 2014

actblue has my name and number and donations. we are working to support merkley in oregon running against that crazzzee lady.

elleng

(131,197 posts)
34. Thanks, hopemountain.
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jun 2014

actblue has some of my donations too, and things are pretty good here at home, helping Jack Trammell in Virginia! Merkley's a good guy!

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
43. Thom Tillis:
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jun 2014

“The traditional population of North Carolina and the United States is more or less stable. It’s not growing. The African-American population is roughly growing but the Hispanic population and the other immigrant populations are growing in significant numbers.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-traditional-apparently-means-white

When ‘traditional’ apparently means ‘white’

06/17/14 11:02 AM—UPDATED 06/17/14 11:35 AM

By Steve Benen
North Carolina State House Speaker Thom Tillis (R) fairly easily won his party’s U.S. Senate nomination this year, after presenting himself as the most electable center-right candidate to take on Sen. Kay Hagan (D) in November.

He may have oversold his electoral qualities a bit.

We learned a month ago about remarks, first aired by msnbc’s Chris Matthews, in which Tillis argued in 2011, “What we have to do is find a way to divide and conquer the people who are on assistance.” The Republican lawmaker described a vision in which policymakers pit those in need against one another, in order to cut off benefits for those on the losing end of the fight.

This morning, TPM reports on another striking quote from Tillis’ recent past.
State House Speaker Thom Tillis (R-NC), the Republican nominee for U.S. Senate in North Carolina, said that the “traditional” voting bloc of his home state wasn’t growing like minority populations in an interview he did in 2012.

MORE

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
44. but let's trot out an old ass, uh er, donkey to get a handle on the situation
Tue Jun 17, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jun 2014



You know, it is often difficult to tell the head from the tail of an ass when you see all 4 legs moving across the stage...

In this case, you are correct if you said 'both ends' are the ass.


 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
46. Obnoxious bait-and-switch
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:30 AM
Jun 2014

I was hoping to read breaking news. After all, you promised us a poll that was "RELEASED MINUTES AGO" (and it was capitalized to provide, what? clarity? Volume? Stridency? A certain je ne sais quoi that mysteriously provides legitimacy to the bait-and-switch that follows?)
Your link doesn't even connect to an article, but to a donation site.
Others, going to a donation link without any confirming article may be overjoyed and gushing out the ears with weird excitement, but I find the OP misleading, annoying, and actually counterproductive for the candidate (as far as raising money).

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
47. Crossroads GPS has been running
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:38 AM
Jun 2014

an anti-Hagan ad pretty heavily in NC (where I live) and the ad's content shows how clueless the Republicans are. It is an ad slamming Hagan and Obama for the "you can keep your health insurance" line when the ACA was first rolled out, as if that line of attack is still on everyone's minds. Then it blames Hagan for working to cut Medicaid payments to the state, as if Pat McCrory actually agreed to the ACA expansion in NC and Hagan messed it up somehow.

The Republicans are ridiculous and they've gotten to the point of serving up a plate full of dumb to their loyal Carolina Republicans who'll vote for them no matter what they say or do.

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
49. Don't believe in Polls
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jun 2014

If I had a dime for every misleading Poll, I could play poker with Warren Buffet. Nothing more than MSM BS. Anybody here heard of President Dewey?
Get off your ass and vote

elleng

(131,197 posts)
53. Thanks, pnwmom.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jun 2014

Kirsten Gillibrand also touting it, in e-mail/solicitation I just received:

'There’s good news coming out of North Carolina, and I had to write.

A brand-new Public Policy Poll has my friend, Senator Kay Hagan, ahead of her Tea Party opponent Thom Tillis by five points! This is Kay’s largest lead since September.

This poll tells the story we’ve known all along – Kay’s race in the Tar Heel State is absolutely winnable, despite the Koch brothers’ Americans for Prosperity already spending more than $8 million attacking Kay.

We’re at a key moment in this race – Kay has her biggest FEC filing deadline of the campaign yet on June 30, and she needs a stellar showing.'

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