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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:48 AM Jun 2014

Oprah's Favorite, Dr. Oz Admits His Weight Loss 'Miracles' Are Phony in Congressional Testimony

http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/oprahs-favorite-dr-oz-admits-his-weight-loss-miracles-are-phony-congress


Dr. Mehmet Oz doesn’t want to be part of the problem. He wants to be part of the solution. But when the daytime television host and sometimes snake oil peddler appeared before a Senate subcommittee Tuesday to testify about false advertising for over-the-counter weight loss cures, he had a hard time defending his own larger-than-life claims.

During the hearing, Claire McCaskill, chairwoman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Consumer Protection, made it clear that she thinks Oz abuses his influence. In what’s commonly known as the “ Dr. Oz Effect,” products that the cardiologist endorses on his show — or that advertisers claim to have been endorsed by him — fly off the shelves. “People want to believe they can take an itty-bitty pill to push fat out of their body,” McCaskill scolded. “I know you know how much power you have. I know you know that.”

While acknowledging that there’s no such thing as a miracle pill that can replace diet and exercise, Oz insisted that the products he promotes can be used as a short-term crutch.

“I actually do personally believe in the items I talk about on the show,” he said. “I passionately study them. I recognize they don’t have the scientific muster to present as fact but nevertheless I would give my audience the advice I give my family all the time, and I have given my family these products. Specifically the ones you mentioned, then I’m comfortable with that part.”
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Oprah's Favorite, Dr. Oz Admits His Weight Loss 'Miracles' Are Phony in Congressional Testimony (Original Post) xchrom Jun 2014 OP
Watch Dr. Oz attempt to defend his weight loss “miracles” before Congress{@ link} xchrom Jun 2014 #1
As a person who watched FlaGranny Jun 2014 #5
I'm a woman,I think he's your typical grifting sufrommich Jun 2014 #10
"I find that men tend to hate the man, maybe that's because the women love him?" Orrex Jun 2014 #12
Well, he does have good hair...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #16
I guess I'm not one of "the women" then eShirl Jun 2014 #17
I haven't trusted Oz ever since that whole "cyanide in your kid's apple juice" scare a while back. catbyte Jun 2014 #20
I know, you are right! I am so jealous of those sexy ears snooper2 Jun 2014 #37
Takeaway: "they don’t have the scientific muster to present as fact". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2014 #2
Gawd, I can't stand Dr. Oz. AngryOldDem Jun 2014 #3
+1000 LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #7
Agree. nt sufrommich Jun 2014 #11
How does a multibillionaire's reading list differ from the tens of thousandaire's? Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #21
The books are garbage, but other than that, they aren't that bad. LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #28
The book club was better early on. AngryOldDem Jun 2014 #45
He is annoying. Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #4
Read between the lines people maindawg Jun 2014 #6
a lot of business in the fad products he presents on his show, too eShirl Jun 2014 #9
Eat less,exercise more.That is the only way to sufrommich Jun 2014 #13
That's all that's ever worked for me. LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #18
basically water weight I think. ejpoeta Jun 2014 #40
Ah, so if I eat less but eat nothing but Snickers bars that should work, right? KittyWampus Jun 2014 #31
Dr. Oz is a piece of shit used car salesman. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #41
We should call him by his real name LostOne4Ever Jun 2014 #8
Shit, I didn't know he did that! That is so fucked up. LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #14
you probably havent watched his show maindawg Jun 2014 #19
I don't agree. Gay reparation therapy is dangerous quackery based in bigotry and for Oz to give catbyte Jun 2014 #22
Sarcasm, right? Gay reparation? Things outside I can do to make myself healthy? LuvNewcastle Jun 2014 #23
So a show that is about civil rights should give equal time to the klan dsc Jun 2014 #24
Phil Donohue had the klan on his show several times.. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #26
It is one thing to have the klan on dsc Jun 2014 #27
so we dont get to see quackery for ourselves? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #29
It sure would have had he dsc Jun 2014 #33
YOU make the analogy yourself. YOU DID. Here- let me cut and paste YOUR words KittyWampus Jun 2014 #30
Donahue's shows weren't a historical retrospective about civil rights dsc Jun 2014 #32
As far as gay reparative therapy he sides with science. He doesn't advocate it at all. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #34
He did that after the show and after he was soundly roasted dsc Jun 2014 #36
advocating how? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #35
He uttered no words at all dsc Jun 2014 #38
as you have seen.....verifiably false VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #42
I am not reading his mind I am reading his actions dsc Jun 2014 #43
no he didnt say what YOU said VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #44
Anything for a buck - it's the American way. K&R nt TBF Jun 2014 #15
He's not much different than the ads in the back of trashy gossip magazines. progressoid Jun 2014 #25
The real weight loss miracle would be for America to have affordable fresh organic produce nt IronLionZion Jun 2014 #39

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
1. Watch Dr. Oz attempt to defend his weight loss “miracles” before Congress{@ link}
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 05:55 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/17/watch_dr_oz_attempt_to_defend_his_weight_loss_miracles_before_congress/




Dr. Mehmet Oz doesn’t want to be part of the problem. He wants to be part of the solution. But when the daytime television host and sometime snake oil peddler appeared before a Senate subcommittee Tuesday to testify about false advertising for over-the-counter weight loss cures, he had a hard time defending his own larger-than-life claims.

During the hearing, Claire McCaskill, chairwoman of the Senate Commerce Subcommittee on Consumer Protection, made it clear that she thinks Oz abuses his influence. In what’s commonly known as the “Dr. Oz Effect,” products that the cardiologist endorses on his show — or that advertisers claim to have been endorsed by him — fly off the shelves. “People want to believe they can take an itty-bitty pill to push fat out of their body,” McCaskill scolded. “I know you know how much power you have. I know you know that.”

While acknowledging that there’s no such thing as a miracle pill that can replace diet and exercise, Oz insisted that the products he promotes can be used as a short-term crutch.

“I actually do personally believe in the items I talk about on the show,” he said. “I passionately study them. I recognize they don’t have the scientific muster to present as fact but nevertheless I would give my audience the advice I give my family all the time, and I have given my family these products. Specifically the ones you mentioned, then I’m comfortable with that part.”

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
5. As a person who watched
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:03 AM
Jun 2014

many of these shows, never once did the doctor claim anything was a "miracle." That's ridiculous. Every single product he discussed does have research and a history behind it (I've looked up the studies). He always advocates a healthy diet and lifestyle. Says the specific product "may" be helpful. The main problem is that people find web sites that make outrageous claims about a product and then Oz gets blamed for the claims. Many times he has said that exact same sentence on the show: "no such thing as a miracle pill that can replace diet and exercise." That show has been responsible for saving lives by publicizing various disease symptoms. It has also been responsible for many people changing their diets and lifestyle and becoming healthy.

Yes, I guess I am defending him. By the way, the headline of the post is misleading. Dr. Oz has never claimed any product was a miracle.

P.S. I find that men tend to hate the man, maybe that's because the women love him?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. I'm a woman,I think he's your typical grifting
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jun 2014

snake oil salesman,making money off of people's desperation. And he has claimed diet pills are "miracles":
•(On green coffee extract) — “You may think magic is make-believe, but this little bean has scientists saying they found the magic weight-loss for every body type.”
•(On raspberry ketone) — “I’ve got the number one miracle in a bottle to burn your fat” (raspberry ketone)
•(On garcinia cambogia) — “It may be the simple solution you’ve been looking for to bust your body fat for good.”.
He doesn't even deny this.

Orrex

(63,209 posts)
12. "I find that men tend to hate the man, maybe that's because the women love him?"
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:06 AM
Jun 2014

LOL. No, that's not it.

eShirl

(18,491 posts)
17. I guess I'm not one of "the women" then
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:18 AM
Jun 2014

because he's one of those doctors that gives me the creeps.

catbyte

(34,382 posts)
20. I haven't trusted Oz ever since that whole "cyanide in your kid's apple juice" scare a while back.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:45 AM
Jun 2014

That was a whole lotta nuthin'.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
3. Gawd, I can't stand Dr. Oz.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:40 AM
Jun 2014

"Snake oil peddler" -- yep, pretty much.

I wish he and that other Oprah creation -- Dr. Phil -- would just go the fuck away.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
7. +1000
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:16 AM
Jun 2014

Liars and self-promoters extraordinaire. I'm just glad Oprah went the fuck away. Her show promoted more awful shit than I can name, especially in her book club. People like her are examples of what's wrong with America's way of getting informed. Her show was almost as bad as Fox News.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
21. How does a multibillionaire's reading list differ from the tens of thousandaire's?
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:50 AM
Jun 2014

I don't know anything about the book club, but my gut reaction was was to doubt that a book club could be so bad. What is so bad about it?

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
28. The books are garbage, but other than that, they aren't that bad.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jun 2014

People who don't usually read look for something to read, and so they decide that surely Oprah would promote books that would be worthy of their time. So they read the trash that Oprah promotes instead of reading something that might give them some insight into their lives and the lives of others. Other than ruining an experience that could be valuable to people's lives and benefit the lives of others as well, there's absolutely nothing wrong with Oprah's book club.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
45. The book club was better early on.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 06:05 PM
Jun 2014

I came across some good fiction that I probably never would have heard of otherwise. But the more it went on, the more the quality fell off. (Either that, or I found better book recommendation sites.)

I never got the Worship at the Altar of Oprah crap. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I would never slavishly follow ANYONE the way a lot of people follow her. Oz and Phil would never have gotten as far if they weren't riding her coattails. Both are charlatans, both are hacks, and both have probably caused MORE problems than they have "cured." The promos for Phil's shows make me cringe. He has NO business meddling in some of the issues that he does.

EDIT: One more observation about Oz. He's also a fear-mongerer extraordinare. The theme for his show should be the old Joe Jackson song "Cancer" -- because according to Oz, just about everything causes it. I take what that guy says with a HUGE grain of salt. I hope this diet shit busts him, but probably not, given the number of his sheeple who take what he says as gospel.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
6. Read between the lines people
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:12 AM
Jun 2014

This is the pharm corp attacking a man who presents people with advice and recomendations to a healthy lifestyle. This is a man who has a forum that is not restricted by the pharm.industry.
They hate that. They fear dr's who openly advise us on how not to get sick.
Dr Oz is doing a good service.
The problem with americans is that we are fat. We are like lab rats they feed us high fructose corn syrup in every product on the shelf.Mono sodium glutimate used to be banned until Don Rumsfeld destroyed the FDA in 1980.
Now we are a mess. Now we all take pills everyday. So when DR Oz give us advice on how to be healthy, they hate that.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. Eat less,exercise more.That is the only way to
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jun 2014

lose weight and it costs nothing. Every other weight loss "miracle" is a scam aimed at naive people.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
18. That's all that's ever worked for me.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:21 AM
Jun 2014

I absolutely have to exercise to lose weight; I can't just change my diet. I've tried it. The most I'll lose by changing my diet is 5-10 lbs., and that's if I'm lucky. Exercise is a must if you really want to lose significant weight, that is, unless you're severely obese and you eat constantly. I hate to tell people that, but if they're anything like me, there's no substitute for exercise.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
40. basically water weight I think.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jun 2014

that's why those diet plans say lose the first 10lbs free. that's not the hard part. losing the rest is. and just eating preportioned food from weight watchers or any of the other ones isn't going to do it. but people want a miracle pill to fix the problem. it's hard though. i have had a hard time. I can't seem to motivate myself.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
41. Dr. Oz is a piece of shit used car salesman.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

He peddles woo and gives terrible advice.

And MSG was never banned... Where do you get your information? NaturalNews?

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
8. We should call him by his real name
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 07:37 AM
Jun 2014

Dr. Woo!

There is nothing too out there for him to support. No fad diet is too psuedoscientific, or no quack advocating new age mumbo jumbo too unbelievable to him. The lowest point was when he had a show gave the people advocating (the long discredited) gay reversion therapy equal time and representation on his show.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
14. Shit, I didn't know he did that! That is so fucked up.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:10 AM
Jun 2014

I've always gotten a bad vibe from the man, and that just convinces me he's an asshole. He has a new thing you need to do every fucking day. If people followed every little piece of advice he gives, they would would do nothing but munch all day on a handful of this and a pill for that. So much for losing weight and staying healthy! It's a wonder someone hasn't sued his ass already. He fucking deserves it as much as anybody.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
19. you probably havent watched his show
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:27 AM
Jun 2014

But you can say hes a bad guy ? He is a Dr. If he allowed someone he disagrees with, equal time then that says alot about his character. I know the way to health is through proper diet and exersize. However, there are many things outside that you can do to make yourself healthy. Also , I would advocate that anything you can suggest to motivate a person to work towards better health is a good idea. If you need to take a placebo to justify your plight in your own mind then fine. Everyone is unique, what works for one may seem silly to another.

catbyte

(34,382 posts)
22. I don't agree. Gay reparation therapy is dangerous quackery based in bigotry and for Oz to give
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:50 AM
Jun 2014

equal time to that is just plain wrong.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
23. Sarcasm, right? Gay reparation? Things outside I can do to make myself healthy?
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 08:57 AM
Jun 2014

Yeah, I guess I need some gay reparation to keep myself from getting AIDS, huh? Want to be "healthy?" Well fucking stop being queer! Quit being a gay whore and maybe you won't catch any nasty viruses, huh? Thank God for people like Dr. Oz! How many other people would give "equal time" to these bastards!

dsc

(52,161 posts)
24. So a show that is about civil rights should give equal time to the klan
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jun 2014

or maybe one about the role of Hispanics should give equal time to the Minute Men

dsc

(52,161 posts)
27. It is one thing to have the klan on
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:31 AM
Jun 2014

to state their views, it is quite another to have a group on a Dr. show giving medical quackery.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
29. so we dont get to see quackery for ourselves?
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jun 2014

I don't believe it at all....but sunshine is a great antiseptic

Did appearing on Phil Donohue suddenly give them legitimacy?

dsc

(52,161 posts)
33. It sure would have had he
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:41 AM
Jun 2014

been a historian and said that the Klan was justified in its behavior. Dr. Oz, note the word Dr. had these quacks on to tell the world that they could cure gays with nary a word from him saying otherwise.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
30. YOU make the analogy yourself. YOU DID. Here- let me cut and paste YOUR words
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:36 AM
Jun 2014

"So a show that is about civil rights should give equal time to the klan"

dsc

(52,161 posts)
32. Donahue's shows weren't a historical retrospective about civil rights
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jun 2014

Dr. Oz's show was advocating this non sense.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
34. As far as gay reparative therapy he sides with science. He doesn't advocate it at all.
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jun 2014

He unequivocally sides with established scientific community that finds it rubbish.

http://blog.doctoroz.com/dr-oz-blog/reparative-therapy-controversy

dsc

(52,161 posts)
36. He did that after the show and after he was soundly roasted
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:53 AM
Jun 2014

This is what he did on the show.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/dr-oz-reparative-ex-gay-therapy-backlash-_n_2211621.html

The Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network (GLSEN) felt similarly, saying they would not have particpated in the broadcast had they known NARTH would be represented. “The Dr. Oz Show provided a platform to a fringe organization promoting dangerous and harmful practices that every major health, mental health and education organization has consistently repudiated as harmful to youth," Executive Director Dr. Eliza Byard is quoted as saying. The Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) were more pointed in their response to the show, adding in an email statement: "Although the show also featured guests who condemned the idea and practice of 'reparative therapy,' Dr. Oz himself never weighed in, and the audience was misled to believe that there are actual experts on both sides of this issue."

Oh and here is his statement

"After listening to both sides of the issue and after reviewing the available medical data, I agree with the established medical consensus. I have not found enough published data supporting positive results with gay reparative therapy and I have concerns about the potentially dangerous effects when the therapy fails, especially when minors are forced into treatments."

so lets review the tape so to speak

Dr. Oz never lets his guests know that NARTH will be on the show, he never opens his mouth during the show to say that it is snake oil being sold by NARTH, and in point of fact during the show, from his own statement, he apparently didn't know it was snake oil. Now contrast that to Donahue and the Klan. I would bet my last dollar that Donahue made it perfectly clear to his guests that the Klan would be on the show, made his distaste for the Klan abundantly clear, and in point of fact had distaste for the Klan going in. But other than that, they were just the same.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
38. He uttered no words at all
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

and apparently went into the show thinking that there might well be something to reparative therapy. From his own statement.

"After listening to both sides of the issue and after reviewing the available medical data, I agree with the established medical consensus. I have not found enough published data supporting positive results with gay reparative therapy and I have concerns about the potentially dangerous effects when the therapy fails, especially when minors are forced into treatments."

The show was a he said he said with NARTH being treated the same as legitimate science.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
42. as you have seen.....verifiably false
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jun 2014

you are not a mind reader.....and that is how any scientist would answer

dsc

(52,161 posts)
43. I am not reading his mind I am reading his actions
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:30 PM
Jun 2014

he put on a show with NARTH and gay groups discussing reparative therapy. He utters not one single solitary word during the show stating that such therapy is quackery, he doesn't tell his other guests NARTH is going to be on the show, and after he gets roasted in the media for his misconduct he issues a statement saying that looking at all the evidence, which has to include his show that he has problems with that therapy. He is a promoter of quacks.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
44. no he didnt say what YOU said
Wed Jun 18, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jun 2014

that is YOUR interpretation......its you opinion....you seem to be the only one with it...

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