We lose the Senate especially because folks didn't vote and that will be terrible. In Nevada, 24 percent of the Republicans showed up to 16 percent of the Democratic voters....neither is great, but Republicans seem to be voting at a larger percentage in these state primaries. That is a bit concerning. I hope that they will still go in November. First of all, the nuclear option with the Republicans at the helm would not be fun. Second, the Supreme Court....yes President Obama will chose, but he WON'T get somebody we will be happy with ultimately. Third.....just the thought............YIEKS!

Better to post bitter snark on the internets!

Go get 'em, champ.

Let's just go with bitter.

Enjoy your stay.

Don't vote, and forfeit your right to complain.

But not so much going forward, I will not vote for any corporate dem, period.
I also stand by my proclamation of leaving the Democratic Party and DU if Hillary is on the ticket.

Corporations or people take your pick you can't serve both, Hillery picked corporations and those that vote for her pick corporations too.

It would appear your hope is that you and people with similar ideas will force the Democrats to turn left in order to get you to vote.

It doesn't work.

What happens is Democrats try to peel off more "independents" from the left side of the Republican electorate. Resulting in the party turning further to the right. Because they show up to every election and you've publically stated you will not. They'll take the reliable voter over the unreliable voter 100% of the time.

If you want to turn the party left, you need to keep voting. Vote for the furthest left in the primary, then the D in the general. Repeat. Eventually, you'll drag the party to the left. Just like a similar strategy dragged the Republicans to the right.

No sufficiently liberal candidate on your local ballot? Run. Or help find someone to run. You don't have to win to have an effect, you just have to make the Democrats defend their left flank.

If you are here posting you are irrelevant too.

All that matters is that I vote and I vote for those that support my values. If the Democratic Party wants my vote they will put forward candidates that do not represent corporate interests and that is all Hillary represents.

After all, I've gotten several liberals to run for office. They caused the incumbents to worry about losing primaries. One of them won.

As we used to say in the old days link or lie

Have to

The 80 election was the most important election in my life time and we have been existing with the devastating results ever since.

So who, democrat, is running that will reverse the trend?

then get back to me. Do you think there is reason for all the new voter suppression laws and redistricting?

For those that live there

but don't wory, the Koch brothers and ALEC have cookie cutter legislation planned for everyone!

Funny way to spend your time attempting to admonish me when as you claim your state is under attack from corporations

It seems to me if stoping them in your state was a priority you would have better things to do with your time then yell at people who don't support corporate candidates.

and you obviously have no idea what people do with their time. And yes, this conversation (with you) is completely worthless.

So, we're supposed to utterly ignore any issue that doesn't personally affect us?

My, how Republican of you.

Now you can feel all morally superior to me

In fact in my world it does not even exist

You choose to live there you fix the mess don't drag the rest of us in to your mess

So that will affect everybody...

The quality of Dems sent to congress from that part of the world is, IMHO, pretty piss poor too so to me it does not matter. There are a few exceptions like Grayson.

Corporate, moderate, centrist blue dogs are a waste of a vote, they cannot be counted on, they always screw up good liberal and progressive legislation and they never can nor should they be trusted.

Let the chips fall where they may, it is a very simple choice for me now people or corporations, yes it is that black and white.

an Elizabeth Warren if they were from my state, but until I can..........GOTV people!!!

Couldn't agree more.

It's outcome is definitely important, but this is hyperbole.

and I did say "just may be".

If anything one could make a reasonable argument that this will be the least consequential election in some 20 years. In terms of significance I would place it somewhere between the 1998 or 1990 midterm elections.

It's exhausting, frankly.

We blew it.

I keep hearing this and things just kind of float along. Some things get done, but the vital problems just seem to stay the same.
But you are right, we have to make sure the republicans don't get an edge because they will work that edge no matter how small it is and we will be totally fucked.

reaped the dubious rewards of that. Even in Minnesota, the Republicans took control of both houses of our legislature. We corrected that in 2012, but damage was done.

2014 is more similar to 2010 than to anything else. We have another opportunity. If we blow that opportunity, we'll pay a very high price for it, no matter who is elected in 2016. If we GOTV in a big way, President Obama will get two years with a Democratic Congress to get a pile of stuff done that needs to be done.

It's really up to us, isn't it. What will you be doing? I'll be working GOTV very heavily here in Minnesota.

exactly.

into play after the election in November. Getting distracted now is not a good idea. In Minnesota, for example, we have a good opportunity to flip two Congressional districts if we can get out the Democratic voters in those districts. Two seats, just in this state. Similar opportunities exist in many states. We only need 18 flipped seats to gain majority control. I can't believe that is not a top priority for every Democrat.

We can do it, if we are willing to do the work. If we punt, though, we'll lose again and have to start over again in 2016. We could have two excellent years before then if we will get on it now.

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the front lines are in the states right now. Here in NC, years of hard earned progress have been turned on it's head in a very short time.
I and others are working here to GOTV. I think people really need to do some research on ALEC and the Koch brothers to understand what is at stake.

that appears to have far more power than the elected officials that tremble before them.

I still don't get how it is legal for them to right laws as stenographers of the Kochs and have it passed into law. Only elected people should be allowed to write our laws, rubber stamping stuff written by the private sector really needs to become illegal, somehow.
Unfortunately I don't think it will be made illegal because ALEC would never write such a law for their elected employees in government to pass for them.

We need to GOTV and turn the state from Red to Purple. God knows the state party is useless, so it's down to individual activists to get it done.