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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:04 PM Jun 2014

Today's lesson: Fellatio is a bad thing

Isn't that what people frequently tell other people they don't like? Suck a *** or frequently suck MY ***?

Democratic Underground 2014: Where it is OK to use homophobic slurs and rape threats as long as they are against the people we don't like.

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Today's lesson: Fellatio is a bad thing (Original Post) FrodosPet Jun 2014 OP
For more context, check out FrodosPet Jun 2014 #1
Whining about DU? Painting all DUers with the same brush? Over a post that was hidden? arcane1 Jun 2014 #2
There's a 350-post thread full of people who are outraged... OUTRAGED redqueen Jun 2014 #13
I am reminded of a Lenny Bruce joke, told after he got busted for using a very long and dirty word. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #3
"Fellatio is a bad thing" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #4
I don't know that it necessarily needs to be homophobic or a rape threat. Orrex Jun 2014 #5
True. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #6
I always thought it was another way of saying "shut the hell up" zappaman Jun 2014 #10
Perceived sexual connotation? redqueen Jun 2014 #19
Oh for fuck sake. Its not homophobic nor is it a rape threat. phleshdef Jun 2014 #7
Don't forget about calling someone a c--ksucker. xfundy Jun 2014 #8
Corksoaker? Go Vols Jun 2014 #18
I'm actually rather quite keen on it. Chan790 Jun 2014 #9
Me, too. That other thing, you straight guys can have that closeupready Jun 2014 #17
Yep. n/t bobthedrummer Jun 2014 #21
Today's real lesson: Being a woman or being a gay man is a bad thing. dawg Jun 2014 #11
I like the Rude Pundit. nt. neverforget Jun 2014 #12
I like him too. dawg Jun 2014 #14
I get that it's a sctick but I can't bring myself to be/appreciate that level of hostility. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #15
I never read the rude for those very reasons. However, the posturing on DU about it is a big much Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #20
I think it is a crude thing to say or to write. Jenoch Jun 2014 #16

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. There's a 350-post thread full of people who are outraged... OUTRAGED
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:55 PM
Jun 2014

that a homophobic and misogynistic insult was hidden.

There's another one praising the guy who is fond of using such insults as if he's some kind of hero.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's 'ok on DU' to use homophobic / misogynistic insults or find them amusing... but if a jury hides it all hell will break loose.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. I am reminded of a Lenny Bruce joke, told after he got busted for using a very long and dirty word.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

He asked How many men had ever had their Blahs Blahhed. Most hands in the audience went up. then he asked how many men had ever blahhed a blah and all the hands went down.

Yes, at its root that humor is homophobic but the truth is that straight men do not like the idea of blahhing a blah no matter how much they like getting their blahs blahhed.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
5. I don't know that it necessarily needs to be homophobic or a rape threat.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jun 2014

It can be, but it can equally be a generic insult along the lines of "commit some act to humiliate/injure/diminish yourself for my benefit/amusement/satisfaction."

Seem unlikely? Well, the language abounds with such idioms. For example:

"Drop dead."
"Go to hell."
"Go soak your head."
"Go jump in a lake."
"Eat shit."
"Kiss my ass."
"Get stuffed."
"Go take a flying leap."
"Go fuck yourself."
"Go take a long walk off a short pier."
"Get bent."
"Eat my shorts."
etc. etc. etc.

All of these have more or less the same meaning.

To concentrate solely on the perceived sexual connotation of the idiom is to pursue one possible interpretation to the exclusion of all others, with little clear justification to do so. The purpose is to deride the recipient. The particular mechanism is a function of societal norms and colloquial tradition.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
10. I always thought it was another way of saying "shut the hell up"
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jun 2014

Cuz you can't talk if you have something in your mouth.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
7. Oh for fuck sake. Its not homophobic nor is it a rape threat.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jun 2014

No one is going to stop me from occasionally saying "so and so" should eat a bag of dicks. Its just a much more fun way to say "go to hell".

I'm half and half on this political correctness shit. Words and phrases that are obviously used with bigoted intentions against a particular group are always a big no no in my book. But its getting to the point where people are pretending that certain things are sexist or homophobic just to get attention.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
11. Today's real lesson: Being a woman or being a gay man is a bad thing.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jun 2014

If you want to insult a straight man .... I mean really put him in his place ... then tell him to do those horrible, demeaning things that gay men and straight women do. That'll show him.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. I like him too.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jun 2014

I can like someone's work in general, and still think some particular thing they did is a big steaming pile. I'm complicated like that.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
15. I get that it's a sctick but I can't bring myself to be/appreciate that level of hostility.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jun 2014

It seems soul-poisoning and kinda sad, really.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. I never read the rude for those very reasons. However, the posturing on DU about it is a big much
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:20 PM
Jun 2014

There are people here in a rage about that who support a political figure who spent 17 years ranting about God's dislike of equality, claiming that marriage has been 'one man and one woman, since the dawn of time' and that sort of thing. That is a far greater hostility than what the Rude P said, more important hostility and it poisoned not just souls, but the law and public discourse.
So when some poster is wailing about that post, but then cheers for a person who said stuff like "Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman." And said it until a few months ago I find their ethics to be highly selective, situational even.
To me, someone ranting on for the sake of ranting is less important than a major politician saying what every last one of them has said for ages, what Hillary just now stopped saying, and so on.
It's stupid. If you are backing a candidate who has said all that awful toxic stuff for so long, with no real reason to do so at all, then you need to get over this other stuff.
Seriously. It is hypocrisy.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
16. I think it is a crude thing to say or to write.
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jun 2014

I throw insults around occassionally, but I don't get crude about it. I think it shows more class to insult somebody and they are unaware they have been insulted.

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