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babylonsister

(171,064 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:18 AM Jun 2014

Thank God For Dick Cheney (Really)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/dick-cheney-iraq


Thank God For Dick Cheney (Really)
Jason Stanford – June 20, 2014, 6:00 AM EDT


Until today, the sectarian conflict in Iraq has put the mess into messaging. For an administration already in love with nuance, explaining how the United States should engage in Iraq presents the worst on-the-one-hand-on-the-other challenge in the world. But sometimes it’s better to be lucky in communications than good, and for that Obama has Dick Cheney to thank. The more the former vice president talks, the better Obama seems.

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I claim no pride of authorship for the idea that Cheney is a useful foil for Obama. Jonathan Chait wrote a piece under the headline, “Actually, let’s hear more from Dick Cheney on Iraq.” On the Senate floor today {Wednesday}, Sen. Harry Reid said, “Being on the wrong side of Dick Cheney is being on the right side of history.” To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, Cheney is a known known. Every self-assured snarl he utters reminds us on a precognitive level why Iraq became a national security Superfund site to begin with.

It's too late for Dick Cheney to rehab his legacy. The American people have made their decision about the Iraq War. Today, we are looking to a future where we use our military only when necessary and instead use America's leadership role to create free and just societies, and it is in the contrast of Cheney’s gruff style with Obama’s cool pragmatism that the former Vice President proves most useful.

The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL, presents the U.S. with a new, post-al Qaeda enemy that has destabilized a region from Palestine to Baghdad. ISIL has kidnapped the Turkish consul general in Mosul, a clear incursion against a NATO ally. We have real interests in this region and are the only ones capable of leading a multilateral coalition to prevent Iraq’s collapse.

But we will accomplish nothing if our only two options are Cheney’s invade-first strategy and Paul’s isolationism. Thank God for Dick Cheney. Before this week, Obama’s options were limited by a public justifiably tired of international entanglements. Now all he has to jab a thumb at the lot of Cheney, John McCain, and the rest of the Iraq War apologists and promise that whatever happens, he’s not repeating their mistakes. At long last, Dick Cheney is finally the right man at the right time.
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Thank God For Dick Cheney (Really) (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2014 OP
Yes indeed malaise Jun 2014 #1
+ a bazillion malaise... monmouth3 Jun 2014 #2
Yeah! Seems they thought . . . brush Jun 2014 #3
It's refreshing to watch malaise Jun 2014 #5
It just angers me to no end the thought that he Skidmore Jun 2014 #6
You know I have long been convinced that poppy GHW had way more to do with malaise Jun 2014 #7
I can see that too, and Skidmore Jun 2014 #8
Yep! brush Jun 2014 #9
Bravo! blue neen Jun 2014 #4

malaise

(268,980 posts)
1. Yes indeed
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:30 AM
Jun 2014

He can croak now - he will never be vindicated. He will remain a delusional war criminal, a LIAR and a scumbag ReTHUG to the grave.

As hard as revisiting Iraq is, just watching these neo-cons being laughed to scorn is worth it.
Now send them to the Hague so they can never ever be near power again.

brush

(53,776 posts)
3. Yeah! Seems they thought . . .
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 11:13 AM
Jun 2014

with Iraq flaring up again because ISIL/ISIS they somehow were under the delusion that they would be vindicated but just the opposite is happening.

People realize what bumbling, incompetent liars they were about Iraq's imagined weapons of mass destruction and the whole Iraq invasion/surge/occupation.

Let Cheney and Wolfowitz and McCain and Graham keep talking, it just reminds people how screwed up their thinking was.

"Greeted as liberators" my ass.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
6. It just angers me to no end the thought that he
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 11:53 AM
Jun 2014

has weaseled his way into a position of power from the time of Richard Nixon to the idiot scion of Bush that he bamboozled into selecting him. Bush would have been bad enough just through laziness and sheer incompetence, but add the evil that is Cheney to the mix and the harm done the nation was magnified many times.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
7. You know I have long been convinced that poppy GHW had way more to do with
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 12:21 PM
Jun 2014

Cheney's appointment than we'd like to contemplate.

Poppy's odd socks have allowed him to get away with lots of evil things.

brush

(53,776 posts)
9. Yep!
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 01:33 PM
Jun 2014

And Prescott Bush his father before him — part of the American Liberty League's attempted coup against FDR.

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