A slur doesn't imply a artistic rendition of a penis, which is what you've chosen to post.

And maybe it makes me a bad person to think so, but it seemed a brilliant assessment of the guy.

I must be more clever that I realized.

I really expected a picture of Deferment Dick Sneering! Alas - you left out coward . . . Shoud ave been a dead give away!

But then I see you weren't addressing me, specifically.

And the reason it's not such a horrible insult to me is because all my life I have been assured of my privileged position in society.

You "get it." Thank you.

Then I click on a thread like this and....

...is the "No Free Use Allowed" stamped all over the pic...I'm a graphic artist. I've had too much stolen in the past to not cringe when I see that. Those watermarks never work.

Now I feel bad. But it's so perfect.

If I weren't so broke I'd pay the $20 bucks.

Y'know that actually made me feel pretty good. Somewhere a graphic artist just got a little anonymous respect.

There are tons of free or donation sites around. Let me see if I can't find something that fits for you.

...vs using an offensive drawing AND using the same "misogynistic" language (i.e. the pun) as the Rude Pundit.

Sorry but, fail.

It's okay to refer to a woman by a crude term for genitalia, but not okay to show a drawing of a man's genitalia?

I'm not in favor of that at all! I thought the RP used "suck a dick" only.

And crude drawing of penises are just declasse in any instance...

(on edit: that term "suck a dick" is not homophobic as felacio is also a heterosexual act).

and the Rude Pundit did use it to refer to Ann Coulter. Someone linked to an older entry of his in one of the many threads on the subject.

With all natural... um... cheese.

Can you imagine the far recesses of the Interwebs to which the Rude Pundit would be hurled forth from DU, should he have made a joke that Hillary and 'Dick' Clinton should go suck dick

O.M.G.

Oh, this is an attempt to point out hypocrisy that may be associated with some posters.

Whew

Talk about hypocrisy. ..

Was so completely over the top it should be an example of stupidity and hypocrisy to the posters in this thread....incredible how all the cryers in that subthread are in this thread proclaiming the idiocy of anyone who would be offended by this thread.

Why am I still talking about it? Because I have enjoyed DU, contributed my money every one of the 8 years I've been here, and a vocal few are doing all they can to ruin it based on race and gender. Over reacting and bullying others. The content and half of the responses are 50 times more offensive (that still isn't very offensive) than my post in a thread about parties, music, and comedy to bring awareness.

Not to mention overreactions and/or even outright bullying: I can personally attest to the fact that I been wildly accused of "devaluing" experiences simply because I disagreed on one or two things that a person wrote, amongst other things; as for bullying, one poster actually became particularly nasty during a "white privilege" argument and accused me of being opposed to Civil Rights. On a board for supporters of the Democratic Party no less. Unfuckinbelievable.

I mean, I can forgive the occasional overreaction just fine, TBH: it happens to many of us from time to time. Bullying, on the other hand, is harder to let slip by.

Whew! It was exhausting, you are right.

And it was soooo prefect.

Edited: Saw the explanation above. My bad.

A cane was far more appropriate! I am engraged!

eeeeeeoooooowwwww...

I can't tell if I'm offensively objecting or objectively offending.

.... juror #6's response really creeped me out. Fine if they voted to hide because they were offended, that is what the jury is for. sadly, it appears the vote was based on a dislike of the person writing the OP


I actually would have voted to hide had the alert been based on the original copyrighted image's presence (as soon as BB was aware it appears BB removed it) ... I did not notice it at the time of the jury. Glad BB quickly did the right thing

So I can update my jury blacklist.

I knew it would be alerted on, and I was prepared to take one to make a point. Thanks.

...so that's something.

I think most jury members, like myself, are sick of a stupid pun being blown out of proportion.

Stupid puns, when blown out of proportion by misinterpretation, are what make DU truly suck.

You've seemed to lost your point to the jury.

Evidently, by jury, picking on old white men is A-OKAY. I guess that could be a topic, who gets a free pass and who gets hidden by group/race/ethnicity.

as are some of the responses in this thread. Clearly some who vigorously defend insults against women, people of color and LGBT folk have issues with making fun of old white men. That was my point. People tend to be comfortable with words that demean historically oppressed groups, but not against people like them.

I can't tell you how many times in my life I have seen people not care about something, until it personally effects their life. THEN they are suddenly activists in whatever it is that wronged them.

involves examining those assumptions?

Except the guy who objected to you using copyrighted material.

And the three votes to hide?
There have been a few. You need to look more carefully. One said unrec, another said plus one. Another said it wasn't right to make fun of people for being old. Some who were applauding the thread about the seven dirty words were less than pleased with this one.

I'll be as clear as possible. You've just proven that what YOU said is acceptable to DU'ers.

Be prepared to have this thread used as evidence each time you assert that the opposite is true.

You've just proven that the language you used, and in fact the sentiment behind that language, is consistent with the community standards of DU.

Not that this is in any way newsworthy, and you knew it before hand or you wouldn't have sacrificed one of your "hides" in vain.

because anything can and does get hidden. It's a crap shoot, and it came within one vote of a hide. The idea was to point out the hypocrisy. Of course the point will be lost and people will be up in arms the next time someone mentions privilege, old folks or white men, per usual. Insults are to be directed against the subaltern, not against the privileged. If anyone strays from that path, they are the subjects of witchhunts, as a few African American posters have learned over the past months. (even though those offending comments were far more mild since the vocabulary simply doesn't exist in the English language to insult white men as it does the rest of us).

Nabisco wonders why they never caught on.

white men. There just aren't that many in the English language.

Oh, DUzy, como sempre.

There are Good ones and there Bad ones - get that reference?

The Good Ones we shall call Carter. "Oh! You are such a Carter!". IE My boyfriend and future ex husband Jimmy Carter.

One who is one of the Good Ones but is a spitfire with a mouth - We shall say - You are such a Biden!

When they meet both criteria - "You are such A Redford!". That's only because Newman is dead!


^Those are the good ones!^



But if you are being a Dumb Dick Mofo - You are such a Cheney! <--- this can be followed by an 8th grade hair flip.

it's convenient to sort of rotate a certain number of pre-and-suffixes, and sort of randomly shuffle them together.

Good prefixes include "chuckle", "ass", "chowder", "fuck" and "dick"

Excellent choices for suffixes would be things like "head", "clown", "hat", "monkey", "stick", "turd"


Some of them, like dickhead, are obviously tired from overuse. Others, like asshead, don't really work very well.

Still, dickhat is good, fuckmonkey's not bad, chowderturd, dickstick... you see where I'm going with this.

Just you wait and see.

Dipshits -I think that's what I'm gonna start using. lol!

...but, is it still fair use?

And speaking as one, I don't care...sticks and stones and whatnot.

Anyone who is not a white male from the South is a protected group.

Making fun of people, period, is not good. There is a difference between sarcasm and irony.

Do you support the Rude Pundit's speech and the other thread now in GD listing a string of vulgar words? Is the problem that I'm making fun rather than expressing outright hatred, as those words do?

1.) Is it okay to insult some people and not others? No.

2.) Or it is who uses the words that counts? It's the "context" which can be complicated by "who" uses the word. George Carlin used vulgar words yet it was to make a point. A member of the KKK or a religious bigot or a rapist could never use a slur or a vulgar term without being offensive to me.

Still cloudy?

What I'm wondering is how you see this post vs. the others on DU lately, including one in GD that currently has 51 recs and the entire kerfuffle over the Rude Pundit.

Last I checked, the administrators of this site don't tolerate actual racism.....or even lower prejudice, for that matter. And neither do the vast majority of DUers, either.

You knocked that one right out of the park! And the context in which you've used these slurs is... is... is, wait a tic, there is no context. Oh well, it's great to see you joining the Word Liberation Front at any rate.

Please proceed.

Why some groups are fair game and not others. I was at a distinct advantage in that English simply doesn't have many words to insult that particular demographic.

Best of luck to you in your endeavor.

that's how I got shriveled.

Have to get the hell out of GD.

Are you surprised it got a pass?

I was prepared to take a hide, which would have been my fifth, in order to make the point. It needed saying.

I got two hides for this: Some will hide anything of mine, regardless of content, as juror 6 made clear. The more salient point, however, is that people are more than happy to declare to be freedom of speech insults against those they see as lesser, but are not so tolerant of insults toward people like them. The alert and some of the comments in here show as much.

You were supportive of the thread using vulgar insults to women and others, but you have issues with this one. I find that interesting. That is the point I wanted to explore. I wanted to show that what we regard as free and acceptable speech is bound by who we are.

And it was a close vote. Don't go into timeout, not worth it imo.

Didn't you alert this last week?

So what's the problem? Is the post not hateful enough to qualify as a righteous expression of free speech? I am limited by the paucity of words in the English language expressing contempt for white men.

This should help: http://www.merriam-webster.com/

sounds like a LOT of the GOP. I see no problem with this.

About one gender and/or any ethnicity but white.

How many recs did that thread about age get? And then there was the witch hunt over the person who referred to some DUers as "malcontents." Then all of the people up in arms that anyone dared to use the word privilege. There are some of us who indeed do take bigotry quite seriously, but then there are more than a few who are more concerned with the so-called oppression of the more fortunate. People guard their privilege very closely, even imagining that a comment about age compares to centuries of slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, and discrimination.

would have been screaming Rude was a reverse racist! A divider! And how it is not helpful to categorize "all" men like this.

Because you see, Dick Cheney IS in a position of power and actual privilege. And not a single (non-troll) person would have made the "not all men!" argument, because I doubt the Rude Pundit would ever engage in the very same tactics that some radfems do. So I'm afraid this is nothing more than a strawman. Make of that observation, what you will.

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15. Pasty-face
14. Honky
13. Hairback
12. Gringo
11. Ghost/Casper
10. Redneck
9. White Bread
8. White Trash
7. White Devil
6. Whitey
5. Neanderthal
4. Peckerwood
3. Cracker
2. Ofay
1. Nazi

I found a list.


Forgot Great White Ape.
And Silverback Gorilla.

Your resident racist misandrist/misogynist has arrived with the goodies.

That was your term, and I love it!

Bout to make my husband do the laundry soon. I'm feeling my power!

I got it from my stepdad of things not to call him. He doesn't mind peckerwood though.

The only one that would remotely bother me is Nazi.


on edit

Didnt notice redneck..That one would probably bother me as well.

Redneck is different because some of my black family in the south call themselves rednecks and love tractors. My white family does too. I never use that one either since i do not see it as an insult. I like perkerwood. What is it? What is a Peckerwood anyway? Nobody knows.

But it makes me laugh.

If not coined by them, back in the 1960's.