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pscot

(21,024 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:38 AM Jun 2014

Iraq: Reality eclipses hope

From the front page of today's Times.

The journey from then to now is a tale of premature celebration and dashed hopes. A president who thought he had set Iraq on a more stable course that could be sustained without American help has now determined that American diplomacy and power are critical to saving it. Tired of war, like most Americans, he found his aspiration to move on bedeviled by forces tearing across a region in a story punctuated by miscalculation and missed opportunities.

The withdrawal ceremony on that winter day in 2011 was, in the end, the result of a failed negotiation. In theory, both Mr. Obama and the Iraqi leadership wanted a small American detachment to stay behind. In reality, neither side was enthusiastic and seemed just as happy that a dispute over legal conditions scotched the deal.

The residual troops would not have been a combat force, but might have mounted counterterrorism missions and helped Iraqi forces gain better intelligence on the militants. Whether it would have made a difference is impossible to know, but will be a subject of debate for a long time

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Iraq: Reality eclipses hope (Original Post) pscot Jun 2014 OP
Mission accomplished! Botany Jun 2014 #1
Because we broke it pscot Jun 2014 #2
If we had left residual troops, more troops would be dying. bradla Jun 2014 #3

pscot

(21,024 posts)
2. Because we broke it
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

we have a moral obligation to those poor bastards, but it's a clusterfuck for sure.

 

bradla

(89 posts)
3. If we had left residual troops, more troops would be dying.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:12 PM
Jun 2014

I am sure Americans would be happy about troops continuing to die in Iraq. Screw that place.

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