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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:46 AM Jun 2014

Iraq Agrees To Give U.S. Troops Immunity

Remember last week when President Obama said ?

Well, the U.S. couldn't do it until the Iraqi government gave U.S. soldiers immunity from prosecution, through what's called a "diplomatic note." If those U.S. soldiers committed any crimes or had any legal troubles while advising Iraqis, the U.S. wanted to handle any prosecutions.

Here's what Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby had to say today:

"Many of you have asked today about the status of legal protections for the small number of military advisors that will be working inside Iraq.

"I can confirm for you that Iraq has provided acceptable assurances on the issue of protections for these personnel via the exchange of diplomatic note. Specifically, Iraq has committed itself to providing protections for our personnel equivalent to those provided to personnel who were in country before the crisis. We believe these protections are adequate to the short-term assessment and advisory mission our troops will be performing in Iraq. With this agreement, we will be able to start establishing the first few assessment teams."


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/06/23/324900017/under-attack-by-isis-iraq-agrees-to-give-u-s-troops-immunity

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Iraq Agrees To Give U.S. Troops Immunity (Original Post) morningfog Jun 2014 OP
looks like we're going back in leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #1
The Iraqi government is only one of the groups Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #2
love the little bunnie gif leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #4
Undoubtedly. The "up to 300" Green Berets are a certainty. morningfog Jun 2014 #3
Was this whole thing a set up? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #5
Possibly. But this is not an extension, it is a new war. morningfog Jun 2014 #6
Pre-emption of what? HereSince1628 Jun 2014 #7
There is no threat to the US. It would be a military act of choice. morningfog Jun 2014 #8
Thanks, I agree that it's a choice HereSince1628 Jun 2014 #9

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
2. The Iraqi government is only one of the groups
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:53 AM
Jun 2014

in this conflict. They are also a hot mess. You have ISIS, Shite militias, Kurds, etc. They haven't agreed to give squat to US soldiers.
Stay out!

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. Undoubtedly. The "up to 300" Green Berets are a certainty.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:53 AM
Jun 2014

There are already a few teams of 12 there now, "sharpening the tip of the spear."

The "advisers" will be getting the intel for the airstrikes. The words used by the administration are clear: targeted, intense, sustained.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. Was this whole thing a set up?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:07 AM
Jun 2014

Leaving al-Maliki in power was eleventy-dimensional chess to extend the war in Iraq?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. Possibly. But this is not an extension, it is a new war.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:23 AM
Jun 2014

This is preemption again. Obama's bush-lite doctrine.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. Pre-emption of what?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jun 2014

ISIS on the march across Iraq.

To me, the US supporting the Iraqi government's request for help appears to be a response to either a revolt or an invasion that is actually happening.

Please explain a bit on what's being preempted so I can understand.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. There is no threat to the US. It would be a military act of choice.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jun 2014

We have no obligation to be one side's military power in a civil war. We are not a beck and call military of the world.

Setting that to the side, listen to the rhetoric marketing this action. It is being sold as a threat to our national security, hence pre-emption.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Thanks, I agree that it's a choice
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:36 PM
Jun 2014

I suppose how one defines national security threat is also a matter of choice.

I am not aware of anyone serious saying ISIS currently threatens the US, so I suppose any act against them would have to be preemptive in that sense.

I suppose that a person could argue risk also includes loss of profits for shareholders in the national security complex if we don't engage ISIS militarily.

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