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kpete

(71,867 posts)
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:26 AM Jun 2014

The Rude Pundit has an exchange with a gun lover.

Every argument for the good of open carrying a weapon is bullshit. It doesn't affect crime. It doesn't deter a goddamned thing. In fact, what Open Carry Texas wants is "unrestricted open carry." That is, "It’s not just the right to openly carry a pistol but also the right to do it without any training, screening or permit." OCT calls that "constitutional carry" because what the fuck do you know about the Second Amendment, pussy?

So, sorry, Jasper. The Rude Pundit is left with his initial assessment: it's about dicks, dicks, and cocks. The Freudian message here is clearly a kind of arrested growth, with gun owners stuck in toddlerhood, where they are compelled to display their penises as a way of asserting masculinity, a narcissistic exercise. But, since just showing off your dick at the mall is illegal, a gun merely steps in as a rigid substitute. And as for the women who open carry, like a group at a Texas Target last week? Ever heard of "penis envy"?


That's fine parenting there, shirtless guy who needs more sunscreen.

..............................

There's a near-psychotic attachment people have to their guns, which is a sad commentary on where we are as a people here in the United States. But we've been through that tangled thicket of conflicted emotions before.

Instead, the Rude Pundit wants to ask a question of the people who bankroll the pro-gun movement, like the sinisterly wealthy Koch brothers, who give ass-tons of money to the NRA: Do you, as a rich person, really think it's smart to keep supporting policies that promote income inequality while at the same time fostering a belief in guns as the solution to Americans' problems? Have you really thought this through?

- See more at:

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/06/a-few-notes-on-our-continuing-gun.html#sthash.VDWTkQoY.dpuf
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The Rude Pundit has an exchange with a gun lover. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2014 OP
This should go well. stevenleser Jun 2014 #1
"it's about dicks, dicks, and cocks." It's about this? yellowcanine Jun 2014 #2
How cute! xfundy Jun 2014 #3
I continue to wonder: How long will the open carry nuts keep doing us these favors? Paladin Jun 2014 #4
he is completely right samsingh Jun 2014 #5
I still dispute the dick thing Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #6
i think it's also a lack of intelligence samsingh Jun 2014 #7
I think it might also be about wanting to feel respected. LiberalLoner Jun 2014 #25
they are absolute cowards Skittles Jun 2014 #27
Rude's often-overlooked point: riqster Jun 2014 #8
That bit of insight is what I noticed and appreciated. JEB Jun 2014 #11
Let Turbineguy Jun 2014 #12
Rude's point is that they could get an Antoinette Haircut... riqster Jun 2014 #17
When guillotines are criminalized, only the criminals......... marble falls Jun 2014 #18
I think some of these men are compensating for ... dawg Jun 2014 #9
This has been Turbineguy Jun 2014 #26
It's about provoking fear in others n2doc Jun 2014 #10
Pssst ... meegbear Jun 2014 #13
Thanks again! daleanime Jun 2014 #21
Yesterday Liberalynn Jun 2014 #14
But it's not apples and oranges ... dawg Jun 2014 #16
They can bring their dicks into my shop (holstered and 'uncocked') but they have to leave their .... marble falls Jun 2014 #19
You post a RP column, I recommend nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #15
The last paragraph is brilliant MohRokTah Jun 2014 #20
He said "pussy". To the barricades! 11 Bravo Jun 2014 #22
These guns nuts don't care a bit about what anybody says...they 'got' sumptin' and they... Tikki Jun 2014 #23
I am rather surprised this wan't alerted on, sensitive eyes must be bleeding reading it Dragonfli Jun 2014 #24
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
1. This should go well.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jun 2014




That said, I think he is mostly right. Except for the women--> penis envy part.

Paladin

(28,173 posts)
4. I continue to wonder: How long will the open carry nuts keep doing us these favors?
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

I've been observing the pro-gun militancy movement in this country for many years, and open carry has generated more negative publicity against that movement than anything I've encountered (with the possible exception of the 1968 political assassinations).

Blue_Adept

(6,381 posts)
6. I still dispute the dick thing
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

It's really about fear. These people are just afraid of everything. They're fearful and they desire a security blanket - one that's more likely to kill them than any external threat - in order to feel safe.

it ain't about dick size. And continuing that trope stifles and stalls any actual conversation. Not that you can really have one anyway.

samsingh

(17,548 posts)
7. i think it's also a lack of intelligence
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

I would bet their IQs are lower than gun control advocates

LiberalLoner

(9,760 posts)
25. I think it might also be about wanting to feel respected.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:02 PM
Jun 2014

How many of us these days feel demeaned, insulted, dismissed, on a regular basis.

Strap on a weapon, and suddenly people notice them. Notice and fear them,which to some people might feel like they are getting respected.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
8. Rude's often-overlooked point:
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jun 2014

"Do you, as a rich person, really think it's smart to keep supporting policies that promote income inequality while at the same time fostering a belief in guns as the solution to Americans' problems? Have you really thought this through? "

A very cogent point indeed.

dawg

(10,595 posts)
9. I think some of these men are compensating for ...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

feelings of powerlessness.

I think we miss the point entirely when we try to turn this phenomenon into a dick joke.

Turbineguy

(37,127 posts)
26. This has been
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jun 2014

expressed elsewhere.

I think however that those at the top expect these men to turn on others in the middle and lower classes while the rich pile into their yachts and airplanes and make a dash for it. The french aristocracy depended on agriculture. The assets of the modern rich are more easily converted or transferred.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. It's about provoking fear in others
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

That's all it is about. Making people 'respect' (which is really making them fear) you. Especially true if you are someone who hasn't accomplished much in life and are feeling a bit sad about that.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
14. Yesterday
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jun 2014

a local newspaper columnist who is normally very liberal compared Starbucks banning of guns in their store to other store owners banning gays. He said both open carry and being gay are legal so you are hypocritical if you say it's all right to ban one but not the other. He went onto comment that the choice should be up to the business owner as long as there is another place where those banned can get served.

I think his argument stinks. It's Apple's and Oranges. No one is in danger of ending up dead or maimed if they stand next to a gay person in line at the bakery. If they stand next to a person with a gun, however, it could happen either accidentally or on purpose. So it's a straw man argument.

marble falls

(56,029 posts)
19. They can bring their dicks into my shop (holstered and 'uncocked') but they have to leave their ....
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:11 PM
Jun 2014

weapons behind.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
20. The last paragraph is brilliant
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014
Instead, the Rude Pundit wants to ask a question of the people who bankroll the pro-gun movement, like the sinisterly wealthy Koch brothers, who give ass-tons of money to the NRA: Do you, as a rich person, really think it's smart to keep supporting policies that promote income inequality while at the same time fostering a belief in guns as the solution to Americans' problems? Have you really thought this through?

Tikki

(14,533 posts)
23. These guns nuts don't care a bit about what anybody says...they 'got' sumptin' and they...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

got it good and nobody can take it away.

They have these big mean guns and they shine 'em up all pretty and they show them off to others who really aren't
in the slightest bit interested, but here they are...with their gun hanging out and you should think they are strong and brave
and you really just think they are idiotic.


Tikki

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
24. I am rather surprised this wan't alerted on, sensitive eyes must be bleeding reading it
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jun 2014

Maybe they are starting to realize his rants aren't designed to harm anybody other than $@*^%$# freepers and Republicans. Even then his insults toward them don't actually draw blood.

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