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Mark Dayton opens trap shooting championship in Alexandria
ALEXANDRIA, Minn. -- Gov. Mark Dayton on Friday helped open what is billed as the world's largest youth trap shooting event.
The governor was in Alexandria to take part in the opening ceremonies of the Minnesota State High School Clay Target League's 2014 championship.
A total of 3,948 high school athletes were registered to shoot over the course of five days. Upwards of 15,000 people are expected at the local park during that time, and it got started with the governor addressing the Class A competitors and spectators on a perfect morning weather-wise for shooting.
"It's the fastest-growing high school sport in Minnesota -- over 6,100 participants," Dayton said. "It's just grown exponentially from when it started. Look at it here, 8 in the morning, and this place is just filled with parents and coaches and kids who are learning something they can do for the rest of their life and do responsibly."
More at link...
http://www.twincities.com/outdoors/ci_25919238/mark-dayton-opens-trap-shooting-championship-alexandria
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Yes, I know they're only shooting at clay pigeons.
Basic purpose of guns is to kill. This is nothing to celebrate.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)So what.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)There seems to be a lot of gun threads on GD. This is one about a Democratic Governor. Why should it be deleted?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Statement of Purpose
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former9thward
(31,684 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)former9thward
(31,684 posts)I don't care what is posted where. Just think it is fun to point out inconsistency.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)But I do detect a bit of cyber stalking.
sarisataka
(18,145 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Skeet! (although I don't think Desire was rebuilt post-Katrina )
Aristus
(65,985 posts)Yay!
A statistical sampling of high school kids who don't murder elementary school kids or blow their own genitalia off is good news! Nothing bad will ever occur at gunpoint in this country ever again. Hallelujah! Thank God for this study.
Now where are my guns and ammo?...
While we're on the subject, thousands of my patients didn't come in to the clinic with an illness this morning. We conquered disease! Yay! And I no longer have to practice medicine!
zappaman
(20,605 posts)Canceling my upcoming colonoscopy!
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)about the misuse of guns and not a story about a Democratic governor using a gun responsibly?
Aristus
(65,985 posts)Using a gun responsibly shouldn't be a 'stop-the-presses' news story. The fact that, evidently, it is, is a pretty jarring statement about the level of gun-madness in this country.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)it's ok to post stories about cops shooting someone, sometimes with cause, sometimes unjustly, but it would not be ok to post a story about a cop saving a baby from a burning building?
Aristus
(65,985 posts)Nobody even implied that. The opposite of what I said would be a news story that says: "Cop does his job well and then goes home at night to his family." Laudable, and with a happy ending, but not news.
Anyway, people post stories about cops saving babies from burning buildings all the time. Or delivering milk to house-bound citizens, etc. Nobody says it's not okay.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)isn't news, then you don't know what news is.
Are you even reading my posts?
Once again, I didn't say a cop rescuing a baby wasn't news. Re-read what I wrote.
Go ahead.
I'll wait.
Got it?
Good.
I said a cop doing his job and then going home is not news.
The headline for that would read: "Police officer puts on uniform, drive to the precinct, answers role call, receives his assignments, walks his beat, or drives his patrol, writes a few tickets, has lunch, drives around some more, cautions a few skaters about helmet safety, has an uneventful day, and then goes home."
If you can come up with a way that that is a news story, let me know.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)MineralMan
(146,116 posts)One thing about these clay pigeon events that is important is that every one of those kids gets a thorough course in firearms safety and proper firearms handling.
It's Minnesota. The U of M even has a bass fishing team that competes nationally. Minnesotans hunt and fish. I encourage this kind of training for high school kids. Who knows, I might be in their vicinity during duck season, fishing somewhere. I want those with shotguns to have safety training.
hunter
(38,240 posts)Some days I think gun nuts get that way from breathing lead.
The minds of teens are still forming and lead is a potent neurotoxin causing potentially permanent learning and behavior disorders.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Even if they were, they would not be exposed to the lead.
From 2013 Policies & Procedures Minnesota State High School Clay Target League:
All student athletes must use factory ammunition. A student athlete cannot use:
- Reloaded cartridges
- Any load other than lead shot
- Tracers, copper and nickel coated shot.
- Any load heavier than 3 dram eqivalent powder
- Any load containing more tha 1-1/8 oz. shot.
- Any load containing shot larger than 7-1/2.
- Any load with a velocity greater than 1200 FPS
http://media.hometeamsonline.com/photos/htosports/waconiatrap/mshsctl2013rulesprocedures.pdf
Personally, I think lead ammunition ought to be banned. Period.
There's no reason to be poisoning our environment or our kids with lead. In many places it's already illegal to use lead shot for hunting, so the kids might as well be practicing with steel shot.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)but that does not mean they are in any danger, they aren't eating it for pete's sake. They're not even handling it.
Minnesota allows lead shot for upland bird hunting and small game hunting.
hunter
(38,240 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Registered = signed up.
derby378
(30,252 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)They are too young. They registered to compete. Just like you would register to play in a soccer tournament.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Anti-registration is one of the extreme positions along with open carry that helps feed the public perception of gun owners as paranoid gun nuts.
hack89
(39,171 posts)It is not needed. That's all.
I stand with the ACLU on the issue.
JI7
(89,151 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)participating in a state high school league sanctioned state tournament have to do with drunk driving?
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Perhaps someone familiar with MN and/or backers of school shooting clubs can fill in the story.
It's still a small scale sport with average participation of 35 students per team, 22 students per school and only 6100 statewide.
In contrast, there are about 500,000 high school students playing soccer.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)promoting a small enrollment sport as if it's the next soccer.
eta:
This is an independent activity, not a school sports team. It's also not a program just for high school students.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)This makes an almost irrefutable example of what can happen when shooters are well-regulated: Registered, firearms checked out beforehand, designated targets, rules on how many rounds can be fired, and when it's all over the firearms are checked back in and securely stored.
Under these conditions, no casualties. I like it very much. Can we institute a program like this nationwide?
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)since the sport was introduced to high schools in Minnesota. I wish they trap shooting as a high school activity when I was a kid. I participated in fall and winter sports, but not in the spring except for track one year in the 8th grade, it was just too boring.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Their intent was to go and complete in a sporting event, NOT kill people randomly in a H.S.
FAIL.
ORIGINAL title "Mark Dayton opens trap shooting championship in Alexandria" but your title is almost as good.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)My original title is still the title of this thread.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Then again, everyone has already pointed it out to you so I won't waste anymore time on it.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 07:52 PM - Edit history (1)
The original title is in my post. How did you miss it?
I'm impressed you understood my intentions. My original intention was to start a thread about a newspaper story that features my Democratic governor at a state high school tournament that had thousands of students shooting guns in a responsible manner. How could anyone miss my intentions?
dilby
(2,273 posts)You can't say look at these kids in Minnesota and then try to use it as justification that Guns should be used by students across the United States.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)I went to high school in Manhattan and learned firearm safety and marksmanship in school. Obviously, we did not have a trap and skeet range; we had an indoor rifle range and learned on 50 foot targets. The school had a very competitive rifle team.
There is no reason why it couldn't be done in Los Angeles.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)where I wrote anything even remotely like that.
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)The kids learn proper gun safety, they develop shooting skills and compete with each other - all worthwhile activities.
CTyankee
(63,708 posts)What happened?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)to shoot people under Stand Your Ground or Castle Doctrine with AR15s next. Gun promoters, like OP, will be happy.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)on sites like Discussionist use that photo too.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)I will not be going to Minn. to be killed by skeet shooters that turn into whatever evil being you described above.
flvegan
(64,384 posts)You know, the ones that call every single person that has ever owned a gun a "gun humper" who deserves nothing but scorn. Look around. We're flush with them here.