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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:18 PM Jun 2014

This Woman Had Her Face Photoshopped In Over 25 Countries To Examine Global Beauty Standards



Esther Honig, a freelance journalist based out of Kansas City, sent an unaltered photograph of herself to more than 40 Photoshop aficionados around the world. "Make me beautiful," she said, hoping to bring to light how standards of beauty differ across various cultures.

The project, titled Before & After, originally came to Honig while she was working as a social media manager for a small startup. Her boss introduced her to Fiverr, an international freelancing website where anyone can hire freelancers from around the globe to complete almost any task imaginable. While browsing the site, Honig realized the prevalence of those offering Photoshop skills. "It immediately occurred to me that in this pool of workers, each individual likely had an aesthetic preference particular to their own culture," Honig told BuzzFeed. Thus, the idea for Before & After was born.

Working with freelancers in over 25 countries, Honig expected that the images would differ from country to country, but was herself caught off guard by just how drastically some of the images were altered. "Seeing some jobs for the first time made me shriek... Other times images, like the one from Morocco, took my breath away because they were far more insightful than I could have expected," Honig said.

To be sure, the images Honig has collected so far are interesting as individual images, a unique portrait of the standards of beauty in each country. However, when taken in totality, the project becomes much more striking, an interesting launching point into a global conversation about unattainable beauty standards around the world. "What I've learned from this project is this: Photoshop [may] allow us to achieve our unobtainable standards of beauty, but when we compare those standards on a global scale, achieving the ideal remains all the more illusive."


Italy:


Pakistan:


More at the link!


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This Woman Had Her Face Photoshopped In Over 25 Countries To Examine Global Beauty Standards (Original Post) Agschmid Jun 2014 OP
many just gave makeup but looks like USA gave her some messed up plastic surgery JI7 Jun 2014 #1
The collarbone changed on a few, also the tone of the skin clearly changed quite a bit. Agschmid Jun 2014 #2
And replaced her eyes with cats eye marbles. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #9
Wow. I would not call what the US did to her "beautiful"... 2theleft Jun 2014 #3
US artists with a sense of humor fbc Jun 2014 #25
The US changes were horrible, IMO. Ilsa Jun 2014 #28
The most beautiful version of this woman's photograph is obvious. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #4
+1 Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #10
i think the italian one is nice JI7 Jun 2014 #11
I agree. There is no way to mess up her beauty... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #17
I think she looks great without any retouching. MineralMan Jun 2014 #70
I think my most immediate takeaway from that... Chan790 Jun 2014 #5
^^this cyberswede Jun 2014 #8
Yep, but I don't think any of these "represent" anything beyond a lack of skill... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #64
This would look a lot different if she had hired experts. Brickbat Jun 2014 #6
+1 n/t Chan790 Jun 2014 #13
Experts quakerboy Jun 2014 #40
Interesting project. Beacool Jun 2014 #7
Israel and Vietnam are the most like her BainsBane Jun 2014 #12
Bwaaaahahahahahaha!!! tabasco Jun 2014 #14
Honey BooBoo version... Agschmid Jun 2014 #16
Eyes look like a rain run-off on an old butterfly roof. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #18
I noticed that the Germans gave her that red hair MrScorpio Jun 2014 #21
And gave her the lightest skin. bhikkhu Jun 2014 #74
Australia is running a close second. n/t ohheckyeah Jun 2014 #52
I'd get fired if I produced garbage retouching like that. bunnies Jun 2014 #15
No kidding. progressoid Jun 2014 #19
Agreed. bunnies Jun 2014 #20
All you guys are doing is bragging on your skills. delrem Jun 2014 #22
No. We get the point. In fact, we admit, its a great point. bunnies Jun 2014 #26
No. It is you who, on DU, are commenting on the "shit retouching". delrem Jun 2014 #27
ok then. Dont read the comments at the link. bunnies Jun 2014 #29
I'm reading your comments, on DU - what *you* are making of this. delrem Jun 2014 #34
What *I* am making of this is that its a missed opportunity. bunnies Jun 2014 #37
Consider it done! bye. delrem Jun 2014 #42
Weird. bunnies Jun 2014 #43
You just don't show any self-awareness. nt delrem Jun 2014 #45
I feel like we're talking past each other. bunnies Jun 2014 #49
People often criticize most what they seem to lack in themselves. bhikkhu Jun 2014 #75
Heh Egnever Jun 2014 #50
I agree. And I appoint *you* to decide who the "professionals" should be. delrem Jun 2014 #82
Not entirely. Chan790 Jun 2014 #54
You, too, make it all about yourself. Your supposed "skills". delrem Jun 2014 #56
Good riddance. Chan790 Jun 2014 #59
The ones from the USA make her look like an elf or hobbit. Rex Jun 2014 #69
The USA photoshop makes her look like a freak. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #23
Me too. Adsos Letter Jun 2014 #38
American version was far and away the worst truebluegreen Jun 2014 #24
just reading between the lines here.... Adam051188 Jun 2014 #31
Hmmm. Very possible. truebluegreen Jun 2014 #36
Five dollars goes a lot further in some places than it does in the U.S.A. or Australia. hunter Jun 2014 #35
I Prefer The Original... Let's Keep It Real... WillyT Jun 2014 #30
I don't know anything about photoshop. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #32
A fellow DU'er just took a whack at the challenge... what do we think? Agschmid Jun 2014 #33
not a good job of removing the shadows under the eyes--too overdone diane in sf Jun 2014 #58
I agree - I like shadows under the eyes bhikkhu Jun 2014 #76
Eyeliner bad frazzled Jun 2014 #77
God, some of them have no talent sakabatou Jun 2014 #39
"Illusive?" Good grief. Don't writers have to know the language anymore? PSPS Jun 2014 #41
Interesting idea, but badly flawed execution. Fiverr is a joke. PSPS Jun 2014 #44
re US NJCher Jun 2014 #46
Its true just watch the BBC version of House of Cards! Agschmid Jun 2014 #48
Or watch anything involving New Jersey..... whistler162 Jun 2014 #67
She's most beautiful just as she is in the unaltered photo proReality Jun 2014 #47
An awful lot of talentless hacks out there. Great idea, terrible talent pool. Hekate Jun 2014 #51
The US mutilated her! nt valerief Jun 2014 #53
k&r to mark to look at later more uppityperson Jun 2014 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #57
OMG, my screen is melting klook Jun 2014 #79
Less about global beauty standards and more about really bad Photoshop skills. Codeine Jun 2014 #60
The German one looks like she had all the blood drained from her. Pasty white. catbyte Jun 2014 #61
I thought the single-mindedness of the editors was interesting jmowreader Jun 2014 #62
My attempt random_122 Jun 2014 #63
Looks good! nt Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #65
Wow, nicely done. Agschmid Jun 2014 #66
A thousand times better, the USA ones make her look fake. Rex Jun 2014 #71
Better than any of the others! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2014 #81
The ones for the USA look odd imo. Rex Jun 2014 #68
Interesting that LWolf Jun 2014 #72
Brilliant idea. She was beautiful in the original, of course. bhikkhu Jun 2014 #73
That was interesting get the red out Jun 2014 #78
All she had to do was watch a few "Miss World" pageants, peruse foreign women's mags, look at their WinkyDink Jun 2014 #80

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. The collarbone changed on a few, also the tone of the skin clearly changed quite a bit.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:26 PM
Jun 2014

See Germany.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
3. Wow. I would not call what the US did to her "beautiful"...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jun 2014

The majority of the others were just subtle changes..my faves were the ones who did barely nothing - she's beautiful in the original pic, I think.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
28. The US changes were horrible, IMO.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jun 2014

In one, her features other than her eyes were made smaller and she looked more childlike. Not cool.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
4. The most beautiful version of this woman's photograph is obvious.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jun 2014

It's the photo that wasn't photoshopped where she isn't wearing any makeup.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
11. i think the italian one is nice
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jun 2014

a bit of makeup to highlight parts of her face but without changing how she looks.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
17. I agree. There is no way to mess up her beauty...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

though the peculiar re-structured U.S. eyes and outlandish sweep of hair look cookbook.

Otherwise, if she was wanted by the cops, she ain't gonna secret her looks behind the OP's 'shopped images.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. I think my most immediate takeaway from that...
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:33 PM
Jun 2014

is that there are a lot of tweakers in the world passing themselves off as Photoshop artists who are really talentless hacks.

The US ones are disturbing for what they represent...but a lot of the others show really just terrible Pshop work.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
8. ^^this
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jun 2014

Holy moly! That's some crappy Photoshop. The US "Photoshop afficionados" should be banned from using the software for life.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
64. Yep, but I don't think any of these "represent" anything beyond a lack of skill...
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 06:51 AM
Jun 2014

It's like going to grade school kids around the world, asking them to design a bridge, then drawing cultural conclusions from the results.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
40. Experts
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jun 2014

in Photoshop and in beauty standards. I'm pretty sure I could have gotten much the same result by having everyone on my block do this project, without any need to look around the world.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
7. Interesting project.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:42 PM
Jun 2014

The USA version is one of the worst and in the German version she's so pale, she appears dead.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
12. Israel and Vietnam are the most like her
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jun 2014

The USA one is just awful.

That Kenyan blue eye shadow has got to go.

BTW, I came across an ad for a home program that does that sort of thing. It evens out skin color and lights up the eyes. Looking at the before and after shots was sort of mesmerizing.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
14. Bwaaaahahahahahaha!!!
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jun 2014

Looks like a moron pageant mom or idiot cheerleader coach did the makeover for the USA.

Absolute worst of the bunch.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
21. I noticed that the Germans gave her that red hair
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:53 PM
Jun 2014

Even after almost twenty years away from that place, I see that the Germans are still high on red hair.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
74. And gave her the lightest skin.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jun 2014

Its a nice look, reminds me of early 20th century portraiture, though I still prefer the original. Or the Israeli version, which somehow makes her look more "real" and less made-up than the original.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
15. I'd get fired if I produced garbage retouching like that.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jun 2014

Thats some of the worst work Ive ever seen. wow.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
19. No kidding.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jun 2014

The idea is interesting, but the execution is weak. A couple show some skill, but most look like high school students did it. Too bad she couldn't have hired actual professionals.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
20. Agreed.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:46 PM
Jun 2014

I love the idea but come on. Most of those look like theyve been done by students taking 'intro to photoshop 101'. If thats what passes as acceptable now, I might as well turn in my mouse.

I had such high hopes when I clicked on the link. ugh.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
26. No. We get the point. In fact, we admit, its a great point.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jun 2014

But the point is lost when the majority of people are commenting on the shit retouching. Read the comments on the link. People cant get past the horrible photoshop. This was a real missed opportunity to exemplify an idea.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
27. No. It is you who, on DU, are commenting on the "shit retouching".
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jun 2014

And you haven't talked about "missed opportunity" and how you'd do it better.

Enough said.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
29. ok then. Dont read the comments at the link.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jun 2014

I cant make you.


Keith Norris · Top Commenter · Appalachian State · 125 followers
Did they hire a 14 year old to do the photoshopping, too?
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· 1,407 · 7 hours ago

MaShaba Shaheen · 123 followers
Naw, they used perfect 365. Photoshopping would require a lot of skills. lol
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· 140 · 7 hours ago
Christine Stewart · University of Cincinnati
Some of them are really horrible.
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· 209 · 7 hours ago
Andrew Miller · Top Commenter · Chuck Norris' gatekeeper at Cia
i was wondering the same thing. had quite a laugh when i saw USA
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· 431 · 6 hours ago
 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
37. What *I* am making of this is that its a missed opportunity.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jun 2014

Im in marketing. And when you blow a good marketing campaign with bad messaging its considered a failure. The concept was great. The execution was horrible. If you want to ridicule me for my professional opinion, by all means, continue.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
43. Weird.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jun 2014

Ive had a lot of weird conversations on DU. But never quite like this. That youre here and dont get it... Im stumped. bye then.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
49. I feel like we're talking past each other.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jun 2014

I wont make any judgements about you though.

Ive tried to explain it. You dont (or refuse) to get it. Which, like I said, is weird. Guess things have changed around here.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
75. People often criticize most what they seem to lack in themselves.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:27 AM
Jun 2014

As was mentioned upthread - weird conversation.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
50. Heh
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:51 AM
Jun 2014

Have to agree with your premise. The idea was excellent and IMHO should be redone with professionals from each country. There is greatness in the idea but those were not great examples of photo shopping skills. The crudeness of some of them detracts significantly from the idea they are intended to present.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
82. I agree. And I appoint *you* to decide who the "professionals" should be.
Sat Jun 28, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jun 2014

I'm sure you'll get excellent results
about beauty and truth.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
54. Not entirely.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:24 AM
Jun 2014

The point is obliterated by the poor skills. These are no more representative of global beauty standards than the hackery of kindergarteners altering the images with crayons would be. It's a GIGO problem...if you hire amateurs, you get hackery back that defeats the entire point of the exercise.

You could take any of those images to the nations they're supposed to represent and ask people on the street and be told that they've taken a perfectly pretty picture and jacked it the fuck up. They're not representative of much beyond that and certainly not a reflection of beauty standards from around the world.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
56. You, too, make it all about yourself. Your supposed "skills".
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:46 AM
Jun 2014

I find it a bit offensive, and clearly I'm not going to make headway explaining my POV to you.

So goodbye.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
59. Good riddance.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:20 AM
Jun 2014

Please take your offense and yourself somewhere where clearly-brilliant people can understand whatever point you think you're failing to make. I'll remain here knowing that you're not actually making any point.

As the novelist Nick Harkaway wrote: "Garbage in, garbage out. Or rather more felicitously: the tree of nonsense is watered with error, and from its branches swing the pumpkins of disaster."

I agree with bunnies, this is the oddest exchange I've ever had on DU.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
23. The USA photoshop makes her look like a freak.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:58 PM
Jun 2014

One of the photos is an effort to turn her into Kristen Stewart; and the other one is just too weird for words.

Romania's photo shop made her look very natural. But I like Venezuela's choice the best.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
24. American version was far and away the worst
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jun 2014

but Australia looked like a clown shop did it, so an honorable mention there.

 

Adam051188

(711 posts)
31. just reading between the lines here....
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jun 2014

the Australian response was to add tan, colored contact lenses, and comically overdone make up. This is a sarcastic response to the request "make me beautiful". She is already beautiful. They gave her the a caricature of what they believed the culture of her origination would find "beautiful". Much like lip rings and neck extenders im parts of africa way back when.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
35. Five dollars goes a lot further in some places than it does in the U.S.A. or Australia.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:24 PM
Jun 2014

This kind of "freelance" work won't pay the bills here.

In some places five dollars will get you an actual artist, in some places you are more likely to get someone who is just fooling around.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
32. I don't know anything about photoshop.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:20 PM
Jun 2014

Personally, I think she's beautiful in all of them - though I admit I find the American version to be the least beautiful. I don't really care where she's from or what the standards of beauty are supposed to be - she's gorgeous.

diane in sf

(3,913 posts)
58. not a good job of removing the shadows under the eyes--too overdone
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jun 2014

better to use a semi-transparent clone setting.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
76. I agree - I like shadows under the eyes
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jun 2014

...though I have a daughter who spends a lot of energy to do her make-up about how the photoshop here was done. She complains about the "bags" under her eyes (even as a teenager!).

Subjectively, it makes her look more intellectual, a little more inward-turned and critical. Not a bad look at all, but I still prefer the original.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
77. Eyeliner bad
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

She has relatively close-set eyes. Lining the entire eyes makes them look even closer; try it again going only from the center of the eye outward (both top and bottom), and put a little white on the inside corner of her eye.

Also, lose the bright pink lipstick. It doesn't go with olive skin.

(This, of course, is only my personal taste.)

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
44. Interesting idea, but badly flawed execution. Fiverr is a joke.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jun 2014
Fiverr, an international freelancing website where anyone can hire freelancers from around the globe to complete almost any task imaginable.


Not true. They should say, "where anyone can hire strangers from around the globe who claim they can do almost any task imaginable." I've tried Fiverr, Freelancer and others and they're about the same as Craigslist -- full of people who claim they can do <fill in task here.> Without exception, every one has been a complete dud wholly unqualified for the project.

NJCher

(35,660 posts)
46. re US
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jun 2014

The U.S. is an outlier itself, a freak of an economic system and a broadcast system gone awry.

So of course its photos should reflect that bizarre, off-kilter, freaky quality.

Anybody who watches a lot of BBC and TV from other countries will recognize the phenomenon. People look like, well, people. And then there's American TV, where people have to be made over to reflect some strange idea of perfect.


Cher

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
67. Or watch anything involving New Jersey.....
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jun 2014

and you will realize that some states have the biggest bunch of freaks around.<SARCASM>

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
51. An awful lot of talentless hacks out there. Great idea, terrible talent pool.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:53 AM
Jun 2014

Italy's artist did pretty well -- just evened out her skin tone, added a dab of natural-looking eyeshadow and lipstick, pretty subtle.

A lot of the others -- eek.

Response to Agschmid (Original post)

klook

(12,154 posts)
79. OMG, my screen is melting
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

and my speakers have turned into little demons that, in a voice that's a cross between Gollum and Victoria Jackson, are castigating me for enabling Uncle Sam clown gynecologists.

Somehow I've managed to not know about these Psychedelic Republican cards for the past 10+ years. Maybe I was having a really long bad trip, man. Hilarious stuff... unfortunately out of print now.



http://chickenhead.com/psychedelic/index.asp

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
60. Less about global beauty standards and more about really bad Photoshop skills.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 02:28 AM
Jun 2014

These people suck.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
61. The German one looks like she had all the blood drained from her. Pasty white.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:03 AM
Jun 2014

A little too Aryan? That one surprised me the most. Very interesting article. Thanks for posting!

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
62. I thought the single-mindedness of the editors was interesting
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jun 2014

Note: there's only a couple of pictures where the operator added clothing, and a few where jewelry was added. Some of them make you wonder, "have you ever applied makeup to a person before, and did she speak to you after you were done?" (Yes, Sri Lanka, I'm talking to you.)

Not a real big fan of the middle India one, where in addition to the weird makeup (painted-on brows?) it was color-corrected to look like it was shot on film then developed in contaminated chemistry.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
71. A thousand times better, the USA ones make her look fake.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:04 AM
Jun 2014

You should send it in to the people that made the project! Much, MUCH better imo...those USA ones are strange looking.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
72. Interesting that
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:20 AM
Jun 2014

"making her beautiful" seemed, for most, to be about makeup. Is it a common global understanding that women are not beautiful without it?

Makeup aside, the variation in skin tones, and the manipulation of features in some is interesting.

Just a couple were pretty close to the un-enhanced image she sent them, and, not surprisingly, those were the images I liked the best.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
73. Brilliant idea. She was beautiful in the original, of course.
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 10:22 AM
Jun 2014

I don't know what idiots they found to represent the US there - those are the only ones that make her look like a different person altogether (and a strange one at that).

My first preference would be the representation from Israel, and my second preference would be the original. There is something unattractive to me about too much make-up, or someone trying to like like an ornament (though it has its place, I imagine).

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
80. All she had to do was watch a few "Miss World" pageants, peruse foreign women's mags, look at their
Thu Jun 26, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

movie stars, etc.

Depending on some doofi using Photoshop fails to impress.

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