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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:02 PM Apr 2012

Nancy Pelosi Predicts 6-3 Victory On 'Obamacare'

Nancy Pelosi Predicts 6-3 Victory On 'Obamacare'

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi predicted Monday that the Supreme Court would rule in favor of the Affordable Care Act.

"I'm predicting 6-3 in favor," Pelosi said at a New York private luncheon hosted by the Paley Center for Media. "I have confidence that if we're talking about the law of the land and our compliance with it, that we will be okay."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/nancy-pelosi-predicts-6-3-victory-on-obamacare

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Nancy Pelosi Predicts 6-3 Victory On 'Obamacare' (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2012 OP
Operative words: polichick Apr 2012 #1
Typical Politician Posturing SoCalMusicLover Apr 2012 #2
Perhaps the Chief Justice Shrek Apr 2012 #4
well this is clearly her opinion Enrique Apr 2012 #7
From her mouth to God's ears. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #3
I also suspect the fascist court will uphold a fascist law. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #5
I'm with you there DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #10
Hahahahaha!!!!!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #14
Seems like merger of state and corporation to me. Creating too big to fail is fascism. TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #18
It's tough to be hopeful with this uber political court. nt AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #6
Didnt she predict the HCR bill would include a PO at one point before it was voted on? DJ13 Apr 2012 #8
She also ProSense Apr 2012 #9
...predicted that the HCR bill would pass. DJ13 Apr 2012 #12
Let's speculate in the sixth justice longship Apr 2012 #11
Wow, I didn't know she said that. Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #13
If she was talking about something in the house I'd believe her but I'm skeptical. craigmatic Apr 2012 #15
What planet does she live on? It will be 5-4 just like every other decision in the last 10 years. Initech Apr 2012 #16
Nancy making predictions ain't a good idea nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #17
She was right about Newt Johonny Apr 2012 #23
She's talking out her ass and whistling passed the graveyard just like the President is. nt Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #19
Yeah, people ProSense Apr 2012 #22
I predict 6-3 also with Roberts joining Kennedy. FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #20
I think its too hard to predict jzodda Apr 2012 #21
Not really. Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #24
Well the predictions in my post already account for Scalia, Thomas and Alito... jzodda Apr 2012 #25

polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. Operative words:
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:04 PM
Apr 2012

"if we're talking about the law of the land and our compliance with it"

That's a pretty big IF - this is a bit of a warning imo.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
2. Typical Politician Posturing
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:12 PM
Apr 2012

If she actually thinks 6-3 is a possibility, I'd like what she's smoking.

Who are the 6 then? Besides the obvious 4, Kennedy and who else are voting in favor?

She's getting ready for the fall campaign. Since when does a politician's word mean ANYTHING anyways?

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
4. Perhaps the Chief Justice
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:20 PM
Apr 2012

There's some speculation that he'll join the majority so he can write the opinion.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
7. well this is clearly her opinion
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:23 PM
Apr 2012

back in 2010 she responded to a question about its constitutionality by asking, "are you serious? are you serious?" The incredulity in her voice seems pretty sincere to me. I hear what you're saying about politicians' word, but this doesn't fit that scenario imo.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
5. I also suspect the fascist court will uphold a fascist law.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:20 PM
Apr 2012

The "liberal" wing will support federal government government power and unlimited government and 1-2 of the radical regressives will go along because they support corporate profits, too big to fail, and unlimited government.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
10. I'm with you there
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:52 PM
Apr 2012

The only wild card to me is whether the Republicans on the Court would think that their ruling would actually be enough to cost the President the election. I think if they do, they will strike it down. They have shown themselves again and again to put partisan politics above just about anything. Otherwise, I think corporate profits will guide Roberts to uphold it.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. She also
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 12:46 PM
Apr 2012

"Didnt she predict the HCR bill would include a PO at one point before it was voted on?"

...predicted that the HCR bill would pass.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Let's speculate in the sixth justice
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 01:12 PM
Apr 2012

One poster said, the chief. Could it be any other?

Well, I think we know how Scalia and Thomas will vote. That only leaves Alito and Roberts as possibles.

I like the argument for Roberts, he wants to write the opinion.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
17. Nancy making predictions ain't a good idea
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:18 PM
Apr 2012

But here is where the logic stands.

Either five four against

Or if Kennedy decides to vote in favor, this s one of those cases, the senior Justice on the majority writes the decision...this means Roberts sides with the Majority. This case will mark the court.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. Yeah, people
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 12:38 PM
Apr 2012

"She's talking out her ass and whistling passed the graveyard just like the President is."

...said the same thing when the President said the health care bill wasn't "dead."

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
21. I think its too hard to predict
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 11:52 AM
Apr 2012

We will get either a 5-4 sweeping opinion with Kennedy as the swing. This will lessen the power of the chief justice.

Or, get the Pelosi prediction with an opinion written by the chief justice to be as narrowly written as possible and give him a signature case to pin his name to for generations.

Or a 5-4 defeat of the law which will lessen the public trust in the court even further and create chaos. In a 5-4 ruling which throws out the mandate you can be sure they will throw out the entire thing and tell Congress to fix it-which of course they will be unable to do.

My prediction is a 5-4 ruling which invalidates the mandate and throws out the entire law. This should (hopefully) fully engage the left and those who don't pay attention to re-elect the President and give him a Congress that can pass the public option, thereby ending this game we are playing just to keep HMO's in business.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
24. Not really.
Sat Apr 7, 2012, 03:55 PM
Apr 2012

Scalia already indicated how he would vote against this law.
Thomas has to vote against it because his wife has been campaigning against it for the last 2½ years.
And Alito just got there, so he's going to be against it so he can assure everyone that he runs around with that he is indeed a neocon.

The rest of the gang will vote for it because it is in the best interests of the American people.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
25. Well the predictions in my post already account for Scalia, Thomas and Alito...
Sun Apr 8, 2012, 11:25 AM
Apr 2012

The only wildcards are the chief justice and Kennedy. Not so much the chief Justice though-He may well go where Kennedy lands.

But since when does the Supreme court go for the "best interests of the American People"?

I can most assuredly state to you that that is not always the case. I wish it was but the conservatives on the court see things differently as to what those interests are.

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