Indicates that a deal has been made and hobby lobby is going to lose. The potential chaos from the opposite decision is probably too much even for this court.

to win this one? Interesting thought, and if it's a 9-0 decision against Hobby Lobby, I'll buy that.

I strongly suspect a quid pro quo has been arranged.

Makes a good deal of sense. The chaos that would result from finding for Hobby Lobby might conceivably spill over and injure people who pay maintenance on the Court's members. Whereas the chaos that will result from the Buffer Zone ruling is only gonna hurt women going to Planned Parenthood. You may have something there.

-- Mal

But I do understand that the tour of the sausage factory will put one off sausage for a long time.

both on Hobby Lobby and on the public unions case.
Over at SCOTUS blog they said that decisions are often announced in reverse seniority order of the Justice writing the opinion. BY their calculation, Alito and Roberts were up next. I don't think that bodes well. I also hate to say it but 6 catholic justices (the crazy 5 + Sotomayer) doesn't bode well either.

I hope this will give further spur to getting Dems out to vote this fall.

this Supreme Court is hazardous to women.

I'm all for entities such as Hobby Lobby receiving their religious exemptions. PROVIDED that they are fully consistent in their religious practices: As long as the owners and investors at HL are eschewing tattoos, not touching their wives until seven days have passed after menstruation (and don't forget that burnt offering!) and giving a significant portion of their profits to help the poor, etc...
Then I fully support them.

result in a mowing down of thousands of barbecuing families every summer. Also, if Grandpa used to play football in the olden days when footballs actually were made of pigskin, sorry. Grandpa has to go.

I'm with you!

And welcome to DU. Love your first post!

If they want to make personal decisions that violate the laws of public, for profit corporations then they should take the company private or re-form it as a non-profit corporations.

They can't have it both ways.

Sharpen your pitchforks. Metaphorically, of course.

during the argument. He's equating it with employers having to provide abortion coverage on their insurance and he's very negative about that.

Remember that photo of President Obama with a group of Blue Dogs signing an Executive Order saying that the ACA will NOT provide anything for abortion? That's part of the record that the SCOTUS can consider when determining 'legislative intent'. It's enough for Anthony Kennedy to side with the reich wing of the Court in this case.

Even if there are Catholic members, I'll bet you anything they have used contraception. Most Catholics do.

I'm not holding my breath that we'll win this...too much goddamn hypocrisy...

They must assume their decisions are practically irreversible.

I'm pretty sure they are wrong on both counts. If they decide against the working women of this country on Monday, it will hasten the day when I'm proved right.

but this court has been less than hospitable to anything remotely progressive. worst court ever perhaps.

...into supporting sexual & reproductive slavery.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5155976

K&R!

OS

But you are correct.

The outcome in Harris could cut a number of ways. The Supreme Court could uphold the lower court's decision dismissing the suit—a big union victory. It could strike down fair share fees—the equivalent of Congress passing a national right-to-work bill. (Right-to-work laws ban unions from collecting those fair-share fees from non-members.) Public-employee unions would survive that decision, but it would be a blow. The court could also effectively enact right-to-work nationwide and kneecap a union's ability to exclusively represent employees in a unionized workplace. That would be catastrophic for public-employee unions.

Hobby Lobby wins 5-4

The good news is whenever I make such seemingly certain pronouncements, I am invariably terribly wrong.

And it was 5-4 but upheld to a large degree. And there are a few others. I'm positive Hobby Lobby will win so we'll see.

Vote.

There is also a decision coming down about Union membership and there is little doubt that the RW Supreme Court will come down against the Unions.
And I'm not optimistic about the Hobby Lobby thing either. Again proving that elections matter.

Obamacare withstood SCOTUS before and its parts should withstand challenge again. Obamacare should not continue to be revisited "in parts" until it's decimated.

I can't think that the constitutionally implied rights to privacy that undergird Roe v. Wade won't have a consistent support for half the population that receives SCOTUS' previously upheld Obamacare.

Sorry my looking at it through another angle creates some overlap.