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doxydad

(1,363 posts) Sun Jun 29, 2014, 02:56 PM Jun 2014

Pakistani newlyweds decapitated by bride's family in honor killing

A young newlywed couple in northeastern Pakistan died a horrible death at the hands of the bride's family in the latest honor killing in the nation, police in Pakistan said Saturday.

The couple, identified as Sajjad Ahmed, 26, and Muawia Bibi, 18, were married by a Pakistani court on June 18 against the wishes of the Bibi family, Punjab police official Mohammad Ahsanullah told CNN.

On Thursday, the bride's father and uncles lured the couple back to the village of Satrah in Punjab province, where Ahsanullah said the pair were tied up and then decapitated.

Despite the fact that there were no outside witnesses, family members turned themselves in to police and are now jailed in the Sialkot district of Punjab, Ahsanulluh said

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/28/world/asia/pakistan-honor-murders/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Pakistani newlyweds decapitated by bride's family in honor killing (Original Post) doxydad Jun 2014 OP

Horrible! smirkymonkey Jun 2014 #1

:( shenmue Jun 2014 #2

Sick does not describe these barbarians malaise Jun 2014 #3

Monsters! MoonRiver Jun 2014 #4

horrible Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #5

I'm sure... Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #6

This isn't about religion, this is tribalist BS. Coventina Jun 2014 #7

You can justify anything you like from any of the "big" religious books.... Brisk Jun 2014 #8

No, you really can't. If it's not in there it's not in there. Coventina Jun 2014 #11

... and yet... Brisk Jun 2014 #13

Yes, one sees Jews committing these crimes right and left. Such bilgewater. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #16

Not quite sure what you are trying to say with this post. I never accused anyone practicing Judaism Coventina Jun 2014 #19

Not from the New Testament. I'm sick of this "equivalency" crap. And I don't even go to any church. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #15

Wait wait... Brisk Jun 2014 #17

interesting. i googled "honor killings religion based in Pakistan" m-lekktor Jun 2014 #9

Of course they do, because many religious figures do preach honor killing. Coventina Jun 2014 #10

Really? You are "sure"? Name another. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #14

Not sure at this moment... Rhinodawg Jun 2014 #20

What the fycking fuck? Rex Jun 2014 #12

But they've preserved their honor.... Skidmore Jun 2014 #18

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

1. Horrible!

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:41 PM

Jun 2014

This is just so tragic. It must be stopped.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

2. :(

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 05:44 PM

Jun 2014

malaise

(268,967 posts)

3. Sick does not describe these barbarians

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 05:48 PM

Jun 2014

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

4. Monsters!

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 05:51 PM

Jun 2014

Hoping there can be some justice for those innocents.

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)

5. horrible

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 08:17 PM

Jun 2014

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)

6. I'm sure...

Reply to doxydad (Original post)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 08:21 PM

Jun 2014

a lot of religions do honor killings.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)

7. This isn't about religion, this is tribalist BS.

Reply to Rhinodawg (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 09:46 PM

Jun 2014

Assuming that the people involve here are Muslims, honor killings are not part of Islamic doctrine.

Brisk

(37 posts)

8. You can justify anything you like from any of the "big" religious books....

Reply to Coventina (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:48 PM

Jun 2014

If you lack imagination, there is always someone with "authority from God" that is willing to tell you what you want to hear.

Coventina

(27,115 posts)

11. No, you really can't. If it's not in there it's not in there.

Reply to Brisk (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:12 AM

Jun 2014

The Old Testament actually has more support for honor killing than the Qur'an does.

Brisk

(37 posts)

13. ... and yet...

Reply to Coventina (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:49 AM

Jun 2014

They are...

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)

16. Yes, one sees Jews committing these crimes right and left. Such bilgewater.

Reply to Coventina (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:30 AM

Jun 2014

Coventina

(27,115 posts)

19. Not quite sure what you are trying to say with this post. I never accused anyone practicing Judaism

Reply to WinkyDink (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 09:27 AM

Jun 2014

of committing these crimes.

I was only pointing out that Muslims who use Islam to justify their crimes are in error.

FWIW: I am against the entire Abrahamic religious tree.

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)

15. Not from the New Testament. I'm sick of this "equivalency" crap. And I don't even go to any church.

Reply to Brisk (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:29 AM

Jun 2014

Brisk

(37 posts)

17. Wait wait...

Reply to WinkyDink (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:37 AM

Jun 2014

Matthew 10:34

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Lemme guess... We just need to read between the lines right? That's just off the top of my head...

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)

9. interesting. i googled "honor killings religion based in Pakistan"

Reply to Coventina (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 29, 2014, 10:58 PM

Jun 2014

and found lots of what you said that many claim honor killings are NOT part of Islamic doctrine BUT all the folks who did the honor killings CLAIM religious justification for it.