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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 03:42 PM Jun 2014

Obama is wrong to send the immigrant children back to

Central America. They should be given refugee status because that is what they are. It's been reported that he is asking Congress for millions to return them to the countries they are fleeing. That money could be used to help them here instead. They are running from situations where they are raped, killed, forced to deal in drugs and other abuses. Alexandra Pelosi is doing some really good, in depth reporting about this. I wish he would look deeper into the situation before he stains his record doing something that not humanitarian.

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Louisiana1976

(3,962 posts)
1. I agree wholeheartedly. They're refugees and should be treated as such, not
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jun 2014

deported. Whatever happened to "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to break free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore..."

Why did America, and Americans, become so unwelcoming? Is it racism?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. I believe this is a large part of it.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jun 2014

If the same was happening with Canadians coming here because gangs and warlords were killing and raping them, I wonder if the PTB would be so calloused and heartless?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
3. But then what?
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jun 2014

Massive new government run orphanages?

People are not exactly lining up to adopt 6-15 year old immigrant kids.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
4. Many of these kids have relatives already here.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jun 2014

Absorbing refugees is never easy for the host country, but if poor countries in Asia, Africa and the Middle East can do it, what does that say about us one of the richest countries of the world? Also, we took in many European refugees after World War II. They were called displaced persons then. I went to school with many of them back then. But most of those refugees were European so maybe that's the difference.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
9. A lot of "ifs" there
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 06:48 AM
Jun 2014

If they have family here.
If that family is willing to take them in.
If that family is capable of providing a safe home and proper care.

If all those "ifs" are met, then yes it is possible.

If not? This isn't a typical refugee situation, most refugee events in history are a mix of adults and children, with children brought in by families capable of providing that care and supervision.

We don't have that here. And we don't have institutions capable of absorbing them. In fact the only serious talk I have heard of any group trying to mobilize was a story I heard on the radio that the Mormon Church is mobilizing families and churches to get ready to provide foster care and maybe adoption- and of course raise them all Mormon with all the hate that entails.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. How about the fact it would be immoral to send them back into
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jun 2014

danger. Where are all the Christians here? They should be stepping up to the plate to practice real Christian charity instead of nosing around in women's uteruses.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Great idea.
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:40 PM
Jun 2014

There's about 1.5 billion children in the world who would love to come to the US as refugees from violence and hunger. Shouldn't be any problem at all taking them all in. All we have to do is have every single household take in 10 refugee children, no problem. Oh... you didn't mean take in all the refugee children in the world? Well, how is it going to be decided which get taken in and which don't?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. These are our neighbors, not refugees from half across the world and
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:57 PM
Jun 2014

most of them appear to be of the indigenous Maya people which gives them a bigger ancestral claim to North America than any of us of European, African or Asian decent.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
6. Move the children to Miami for detention
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jun 2014

There is a large Cuban community there with a history of helping child refugees (Elian Gonzales? comes to mind) obtain status and that I imagine would probably be glad to take in fellow Hispanics for foster care until parents can arrive. And it keeps the kids from returning to the violence they fled.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. I believe Hispanics from across the nation would be willing to foster them if
Sun Jun 29, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

given some financial aid from our country. Also maybe Native Americans might too as most of them seem to be of the Mayan people.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. I think you imagine wrong. On the whole, the Cuban community is conservative
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:28 AM
Jun 2014

and they don't necessarily identify at all with Central Americans.

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