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nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:30 AM Jun 2014

New N.S.A. Chief Calls Damage From Snowden Leaks Manageable

Looks like the republic will withstand the bit of light Snowden shined on our intelligence dragnet on US citizens. So says the new NSA director.

I wonder if the discussion here might have been different throughout this saga if Gen. Alexander had maintained the same rational tone.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/us/sky-isnt-falling-after-snowden-nsa-chief-says.html

FORT MEADE, Md. — The newly installed director of the National Security Agency says that while he has seen some terrorist groups alter their communications to avoid surveillance techniques revealed by Edward J. Snowden, the damage done over all by a year of revelations does not lead him to the conclusion that “the sky is falling.”

(snip)

“Am I ever going to sit here and say as the director that with 100 percent certainty no one can compromise our systems from the inside?” he asked. “Nope. Because I don’t believe that in the long run.”

The crucial change, he said, is to “ensure that the volume” of data taken by Mr. Snowden, a former agency contractor, “can’t be stolen again.” But the Defense Department, of which the security agency and Cyber Command are a part, made the same vow in 2010 after an Army private, Chelsea Manning, downloaded hundreds of thousands of secret State Department and Pentagon files and released them to WikiLeaks.

Notable in his comments was an absence of alarm about the long-term effects of the Snowden revelations. Like former Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates, who urged colleagues in the Obama administration to calm down about the WikiLeaks revelations in 2010, Admiral Rogers seemed to suggest that, as technology progressed, the agency would find new ways to compensate for the damage done, however regrettable the leaks.

(snip)

His tone was in contrast to that of some politicians and intelligence professionals, including his immediate predecessor, Gen. Keith B. Alexander, who described in stark terms the risks to American and allied national security from the revelations, calling it “the greatest damage to our combined nations’ intelligence systems that we have ever suffered.”

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New N.S.A. Chief Calls Damage From Snowden Leaks Manageable (Original Post) nashville_brook Jun 2014 OP
What Happened To The Sky Is Falling cantbeserious Jun 2014 #1
Eh. Sounds better than the last guy but overall nothing has changed. Pholus Jun 2014 #2
totally agree -- that data center was never about metadata nashville_brook Jun 2014 #4
Excellent. Eddie can plead that at his trial. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #3
But the government should be on its KNEES begging Snowden not to divulge anything. randome Jun 2014 #5

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
2. Eh. Sounds better than the last guy but overall nothing has changed.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 07:53 AM
Jun 2014

Less obviously overheated rhetoric about damage done is merely a reflection to the reality of all this. It never was the end of the world as far as spook activities go, breathless ravings of many aside.

I think it is positive that they are becoming punitive to their own people to prevent insider leaking and recompartmentalize/encrypt their own stuff. That can't help but slow down their activities and generally hinder individual initiative to merge all of the data within their agency. Those kinds of things will force them to be more particular in what they actually accomplish, so a qualified "yay for privacy."

That being said, I can't help but feel that the huge official rush to do something about "call records" is because they aren't as useful anymore anyway. That nice big data center in Utah was always overkill for metadata after all..

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
4. totally agree -- that data center was never about metadata
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

and, for sure the new NSA head is smart to reel in the "sky is falling" rhetoric.

but the privacy issue remains, and we need to see some real changes before "qualified" yays become full throated.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. But the government should be on its KNEES begging Snowden not to divulge anything.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 10:15 AM
Jun 2014

I mean, that's what Greenwald said and if you can't trust him...
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