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Why does the ACA mandate coverage of birth control pills, IUDs, and diaphragms, but not condoms? (Original Post) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 OP
Because you don't need a doctors prescription for a condom. D'uh! boston bean Jun 2014 #1
Plan B is available over the counter, but is still required to be covered under the ACA (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #6
because pregnancy is an actual medical condition. boston bean Jun 2014 #10
Syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, chlamydia, etc. are all actual medical conditions Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #11
Look at response #1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #2
Because condoms are over the counter? dawg Jun 2014 #3
Condoms aren't covered by ACA. ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #4
or male sterilization procedures... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2014 #5
Health insurance never covers over-the-counter meds or supplies frazzled Jun 2014 #7
"Health insurance never covers over-the-counter meds or supplies". Not true. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #8
Only if your doctor writes a prescription frazzled Jun 2014 #13
In other words you 'never' didn't mean 'never' at all. PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #14
It doesn't change the fact that there is a difference kcr Jun 2014 #15
They might... Jeff In Milwaukee Jun 2014 #18
Yes, but they don't kcr Jun 2014 #22
So you want your doctor to write you a prescription for condoms? frazzled Jun 2014 #20
WHo cares about how women will suffer. Condoms aren't included! Wahhhh! kcr Jun 2014 #23
I haven't 'taken us' anywhere. I was just correcting the misinformation you presented that PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #25
Again, Plan B is available over the counter, but is still required to be covered by the ACA. Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #9
Plan B only recently became over the counter. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #12
So now as Plan B is over the counter, it should be removed ? Joel thakkar Jun 2014 #17
What will all those people who have RXs for condoms do? kcr Jun 2014 #16
Given that condoms prevent AIDs, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes, etc., Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #19
I'm not opposed to the idea. I'm just pointing out why it's so kcr Jun 2014 #21
I never claimed that. Condoms provide just as much protection for women. (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #27
I'm sorry, but waah, why arnen't condoms covered! on the day of a very troubling SCOTUS ruling kcr Jun 2014 #28
Apology accepted (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #29
My suspicion confirmed n/t kcr Jun 2014 #30
Because condoms are inexpensive, and widely distributed for free. LeftyMom Jun 2014 #24
Maybe Nye has you on ignore. redqueen Jun 2014 #32
How about female condoms? IronLionZion Jun 2014 #26
And what about Viagra? KamaAina Jun 2014 #31

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
11. Syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, chlamydia, etc. are all actual medical conditions
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jun 2014

which can be prevented by using a condom. Isn't one of the main themes of the ACA the coverage of preventive care?

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. Health insurance never covers over-the-counter meds or supplies
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jun 2014

Birth control pills need to be monitored by a physician, because they are drugs with potentially harmful side effects, an IUD is a surgically implanted device; and diaphragms have to be individually fitted and prescribed.

Condoms are like band-aids, and a dime a dozen.

But the more interesting question is why you ask: do you think women are somehow getting some kind of "special privilege"? That doesn't belong on a board that touts itself as liberal.

And to boot: men can't get pregnant from sex, women can; and their bodies are the ones that incur the medical need. Whatever man-lib crap you'd like to spew about pregnancies being the province of the "sire," too ... those are financial or moral entailments, not medical ones.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
13. Only if your doctor writes a prescription
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jun 2014

Sorry, but you aren't going to get your insurer to pay for Robitussin or Tums or corn pads you chose to buy.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. In other words you 'never' didn't mean 'never' at all.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

(Note that a 'letter of medical necessity' might also be accepted by the insurer.)

kcr

(15,315 posts)
15. It doesn't change the fact that there is a difference
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

Between items that doctors write RX for even if htey're OTC, and items that they don't. Doctors don't write RXs for condoms, do they?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
18. They might...
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

There could be some strange set of circumstances.

But to be clear, if a doctor writes a prescription for something, it's not considered "over the counter" for most purposes, including insurance and tax deductibility. Over-The-Counter items (i.e., available without a prescription) can be purchased by just about anybody. The whole reason for having your doctor prescribe an over-the-counter item is so that it can be reimbursed through insurance or be tax deductible.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
22. Yes, but they don't
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

And people don't seek them out. That is the reason. Not "It's men, so who gives a shit"

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
20. So you want your doctor to write you a prescription for condoms?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

Go right ahead. Your belligerence on this count might, however, limit the number of partners willing to indulge with you.

Honestly, I'd be fine with the government handing out free condoms to everyone. But you've taken us far afield from the topic of today's Supreme Court decision. Which affects women and access to the birth-control medications or procedures that directly affect their health. And which separates women out exclusively from the health-care laws.

I'm not really interested in your picayune counter-arguments or changes of subject.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
23. WHo cares about how women will suffer. Condoms aren't included! Wahhhh!
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

Sometimes I wonder why I even turn on my computer.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
25. I haven't 'taken us' anywhere. I was just correcting the misinformation you presented that
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

over the counter products are never covered by health insurance.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. Again, Plan B is available over the counter, but is still required to be covered by the ACA.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jun 2014

And this is certainly not a "privilege" issue. Women benefit from condoms just as much as men do (in terms of avoiding STDs as well as pregnancy).

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. Given that condoms prevent AIDs, syphilis, chlamydia, herpes, etc.,
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

and one of the main themes of the ACA is preventive care, wouldn't it make sense for condoms to be covered? You do know that it is possible to have a prescription for something that is available over the counter, don't you? I'm sure that if condoms were covered by the ACA, provided that a prescription was written, doctors would write prescriptions for people who were concerned about catching STDs.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
21. I'm not opposed to the idea. I'm just pointing out why it's so
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

It's not a grand conspiracy against men.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
28. I'm sorry, but waah, why arnen't condoms covered! on the day of a very troubling SCOTUS ruling
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

reeks of that agenda.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
24. Because condoms are inexpensive, and widely distributed for free.
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

The most expensive male condoms I could find in a quick search were about a dollar each. Female condoms from the same shop were $3.

By comparison, the lowest price I've heard of for Plan B was $32, last I heard the Nuvaring was $70/mo, and getting an IUD placed is about $800.

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
26. How about female condoms?
Mon Jun 30, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

I've been looking all over for those. I had to buy them online. This seems like a thing that should be more available since it often provides better protection and is preferred by many who have tried it.

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