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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Republicans want from women:
"WEAK, WILLING AND WET."
I'm 71 years old, and this may offend some, but what I am saying is the truth.
This Hobby Lobby decision shocks my conscience.
My words may shock and offend some, but it needs to be said. I offer this as a rallying cry for American women: What these dirty old men want is that we women be weak, willing and wet.
That's what all this Catholicism and Fundamentalism prudery is about in the bedroom.
Don't be fooled. We women have a lot more to offer our world than sex. Not that there is anything wrong with sex.
We humans are animals. It's a fact. You can deny the science, but just look at the world. The overpopulation. The rape. The jealousy.
And then go out and watch the squirrels in the park in mating season.
Women need birth control. It is essential to our economic and physical freedom. Hobby Lobby is just the first strike in the assault on women.
Shame on the Catholic five. Shame on them.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)I read that it's $30,000 for a C-section delivery. And a vaginal delivery isn't cheap either. But they'd rather pay for that, and the time off for female employees, rather than contraception.
wandy
(3,539 posts)They haven figured out some slime ball way to get around it.
This decision paves the way for that.
Their are christan sects that do not approve of medical intervention.
How long before one of those cults demands an exception from those 30k C-sections?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Is your boss exempt from paying for your lifesaving blood transfusion?
This is utter nonsense.
So much hypocrisy.
I took local trains to a medical appointment this morning. On the way I asked women whether they had heard about the decision. Trust me. This is going to bring a lot of women out to the polls who might not otherwise vote.
Abortion may be controversial, but access to birth control, the right to make family planning decisions without the interference of your boss, that's something that women really care about.
So, I go to this large, large medical center in downtown Los Angeles and continue my political activism telling women about the decision and urging them to vote. I get in the elevator and what do I see but a woman with a hospital badge pushing a large cart with two stacks of brochures entitled "Vasectomy." I figure this woman has to be on my side on the reproductive rights issue. But guess what? She informed me she agrees with the decision and does not approve of abortion. (Who said anything about abortion?)
I was flabbergasted. That woman makes her living at least in part from carting around brochures on vasectomy but does not believe in reproductive rights for women. The hypocrisy of it. Why is she working in the medical field if she does not support a woman's right to make medical decisions for herself, if she supports an employer's ability to interfere in his employees' basic right to make medical decisions for herself? And that is what this is about, whether an employer has the right to make medical decisions for his employee.
That is hypocrisy. If you don't respect the patient's right to make his/her medical decisions, get out of the medical profession. And get off the Supreme Court.
And if you don't believe in medical intervention to prevent birth, then be consistent and refuse medical intervention to save your life.
Medical miracles are a two-way street. If we use medicine to lengthen and save life, then we must also use it to control births. Taking one benefit and refusing the other could overpopulate our planet and bring disaster. We are already overpopulated.
I think women are going to organize around this issue to take not only Congress but the Supreme Court as well.
Be prepared to hear a lot about what really happens in large families. A large family sounds so wonderful, but, in many large families, somewhere one or more of the older children sacrifices his educational or social development to take care of the younger ones. And somewhere along the line, the mother lacks the time to give to a middle or younger child the spiritual and emotional and maybe the physical attention and encouragement that child needs.
We need to look into what happens to children in very large families. Even when the parents are religious, the choice to have a large family can be disastrous for one or more of the children. Somebody pays the price. Children need so much love.
EVERY CHILD A WANTED CHILD!
If a family chooses to have a large family, they should be free to make that choice. But they should understand from the get-go how much work and money and family resources that decision will take. Being a responsible parent, not just having a large or small family should be the goal.
wandy
(3,539 posts)It's far too powerful and well thought to be way back here.
mcar
(42,307 posts)And some will be, gasp, single mothers.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Like in my case. My baby and I would have died had I not undergone a C section many years ago. Simple mechanics.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I and my baby "should have died." I was told sternly that if I got pregnant again, I was to see a doctor right away and that I should never have another child.
Medicine has progressed since then, but I doubt that it has fixed the problem I had.
Simple mechanics.
These Supreme Court Justices are narrow-minded and inexperienced in things medical. What a terrible decision. Back to the days of Magdalena Laundries and sexual repression for women.
So much for individual freedoms with this Court in the canary perch.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Johonny
(20,841 posts)today they just made sure those clinics will be full so there is a woman going there for them to harass.
Friday we tried to pretend that out of all the other "safe zones", this one was okay to be destroyed for the greater good, today we really learned why they destroyed it. They destroyed it because America doesn't give a shit about woman. We pretend to when it is convenient but we don't. It is hard to feel proud about this kind of an America. I hope it changes in my lifetime.