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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:09 AM Jul 2014

Republicans Have Been Secretly Helping To Elect Bill and Hillary Clinton By Watching Fox News

By watching Fox News, Republicans were helping to get Bill and Hillary Clinton elected as Rupert Murdoch has donated $3 million to the Clintons.

Here is the chart from The Wall Street Journal:



The joke is on the right-wing viewers who thought they were being represented by Fox News. Murdoch donates to Clintons, who win elections, allowing Fox News to pretend like they are fighting against the “liberalism” that their boss is funding. Think of it this way, every Republican who watching Fox News is actually working against their own interests and helping to elect the Clintons.

Who knew that Rupert Murdoch could be so fair and balanced?


http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/02/republicans-donating-bill-hillary-clinton-watching-fox-news.html

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Murdoch is fair and balanced? That is your takeaway from this article?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:14 AM
Jul 2014

Then I guess the Koch brothers are also fair and balanced, because they donated to the DLC, of which Bill and Hillary were founding members.

I have a somewhat hugely different takeaway from both those events, though.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. My takeaway is that Plutocrats will happily elect
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:38 AM
Jul 2014

whoever supports plutocrats.

Money always comes first for guys like Murdoch, social issues are a far second.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. You mean, I'm not really going to break Rupert's nonexistent heart if
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:00 AM
Jul 2014

use an IUD?

I know. Women and gays (and Christmas trees) are tools for them to get the churches shilling for them. Clearly, Christian principles are not their motivation. Besides, not a word about abortion or birth control in the bible,* but a lot about not judging, charity, etc.

*For the sake of accuracy, and not getting anyone blindsided, I note that this is debatable---and debated.

There is a verse in ONE of the Psalms, in which David (or whoever wrote the Psalms) has God saying that he (God) had counted every hair on our heads before we were born. It might also say that God knew us and/or loved us before we were born. I don't remember now, but I do remember the hair bit. Anti-abortionists use that verse. And, of course, "Thou shalt not kill" is applied to even the "morning after" pill.

And somehow, Onan "spilling his seed" rather than impregnate either of his two daughter in laws who were trying to seduce him turns out to be a prohibition against sex without procreation as well as a ban on masturbation. Nothing about reluctance of a man to fuck the much young widows of his own sons. (Typically, his sons, like most men in that time and part of the world would have married women much younger than they were.)

So, now you've been warned. However, compare those those alleged prohibitions in the Old Testament, which are certainly open to interpretation, with very clear, express statements--and actions--of Jesus about not judging, taking care of the poor and even choosing against religious law if people are hungry.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
2. "Corporate and union donations include those from companies, foundations and employees"
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 06:21 AM
Jul 2014

'and employees' is pretty important - that's how the US government can appear 4th in Obama's list, for instance. It'd be interesting to know the split between Fox (film and non-news TV), Fox News, and News Corp.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. I know that, but I don't know how it works.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:12 AM
Jul 2014

I don't recall being asked my employer(s) whenever I've donated. And, for better or worse, all my donations show up under my own name, and with my address, to boot. Nothing I am very happy about, given how many nutters are out there.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
7. It seems to be required when your total donations exceed an amount
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:48 AM
Jul 2014

eg

A report required under paragraph (2) shall contain the following information:
(A) The amount, date, and purpose of each expenditure made to a person if the aggregate amount of expenditures to such person during the calendar year equals or exceeds $500 and the name and address of the person (in the case of an individual, including the occupation and name of employer of such individual).
(B) The name and address (in the case of an individual, including the occupation and name of employer of such individual) of all contributors which contributed an aggregate amount of $200 or more to the organization during the calendar year and the amount and date of the contribution.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/527

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. Thanks. In 2007-08, I gave multiples that amount within a matter of a few months,
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:20 AM
Jul 2014

between the primary and the general.

I even thought I might have violated the limit, but I didn't bother to check because, at that point, I didn't care. I figured they could just go ahead and jail me, if they wanted.

I guess I brought it on myself. Meanwhile, what's with the cheapos at Fox?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I just made donations to two campaigns in the last couple of days
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:01 AM
Jul 2014

Both asked for my employer and occupation. Even though I am an American abroad I still entered them as required.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. It's totally possible I have forgotten what I was asked.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jul 2014

I've made my donations over the phone and online and have no written record. However, when I google, my donations do show up under my own name.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. PS. Muriel looked it up. I brought it on myself.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:24 AM
Jul 2014

I gave too much to be listed under my employer's umbrella.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
3. Hillary and Bill should stand up to the forces of evil and tell them to keep their dirty money. But, of course, they won't.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:11 AM
Jul 2014

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Hillary took money from China (some Chinese donors?) during the 2008 primary, but
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:31 AM
Jul 2014

gave it back after the yen hit the fan (said hit being thanks, no doubt, to the Obama campaign). That's why I never got it when Obama blasted Citizens United for allowing donations from foreigners. I thought they were allowed before Citizens United? I thought Hillary returned the money for political reasons and not because she had violated then existing law by accepting the donations?

This may sound conceited, but I know I am not stupid. My education may not be Choate and Harvard, but it was not the worst by any means, either. And I still feel so clueless sometimes.

How many law degrees do we have to have, and how many 100 page statutes do we have to read before we can really figure out what is happening, or what happened, or what should happen? And what's wrong with this picture when I even have to ask that?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
11. The joke is on left-wing supporters of Hillary who thought she was a liberal.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 08:07 AM
Jul 2014

And it's a bad joke, a very bad joke.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
15. I know RWers who like Hillary.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jul 2014

Apparently, Limbaugh has them programmed that the Democrats nominated the wrong person (the wrong COLOR person). They think Hillary is conservative. I think this is one of those times when the broken clock is right.

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