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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums“I’m not racist,” he said. “I’m Swedish.”
While there ARE a lot of great things going for Sweden, even they have some serious xenophobia and racism problems.
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The racial tensions behind Swedens idyllic facade
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/sweden-refugees-racismstockholm.html
June 9, 2014 12:30AM ET by Sam Piranty
Last month, I went to Stockholm on a reporting trip. The city seemed idyllic: bicycles aplenty standing unlocked outside at night, Volvos with their doors open and engines running, and not a cigarette butt in sight. In trendy Hornstull, bearded bros high-fived each other over Brooklyn craft beers. But everyone, it seemed, was white.
I got chatting with some of these happy hipsters and asked where I might find some of the million Somalis, Kurds, Iraqis, Chileans and Syrians who began arriving in the 70s seeking asylum in what many perceived to be a Scandinavian paradise. Ever since, Swedens immigrant population has largely reflected wherever there has been conflict or unrest in the world. They live in the suburbs, at the end of the blue metro line, Karl informed me, adjusting his sunglasses in the dimly lit bar. Dont go there now, though, it's pretty dangerous. Theyre pretty angry, and it's nighttime; black people get pretty angry when theres no sun.
Dont you think thats pretty racist? I asked. Karl hesitated for a moment, shooting a look at his drinking companion before removing his Ray-Bans and turning back to me. Im not racist, he said. Im Swedish.
My time in Sweden suggested that Karls articulation of the apparent exclusivity of these two concepts was not an anomaly confined to late-night drinking. Sweden proclaims itself to be an inclusive and tolerant society despite its segregated cities, racial inequality and Islamophobia. But thats false. One only has to look at the main entrance to the Central Mosque in the middle of Stockholm to see the remains of the swastikas painted on the doors. The rise of the far right, and the entrance of the Sweden Democrats into Swedens parliament, have created a space to further isolate those who dont look Swedish. Twice in central Stockholm, when accompanied by two Swedish-born Somalis, I was told to go back to my own country. Recent statistics show a large increase in hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, African-born residents and the Roma community.
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Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Even sarcastically?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)If you think Americans are racist, get to know a few Japanese and Koreans, just for starters.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)So I'm unclear on the purpose of your snarky reply.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)You make a good point. Norwegians, the Swiss, etc. Racism is everywhere I think.
clarice
(5,504 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Read Black Is The New White by Paul Mooney. If you know Richard Pryor or Dave Chappelle - you know this man. He states he didn't know racism until he moved from Jim Crow Louisiana as a kid to Los Angeles.
Rod Beauvex
(564 posts)Racism is just filed under the list of "Things that are only bad when America does them." Like invading countries, nationalism, tariffs, ect.
unblock
(52,253 posts)not sure it's entirely relevant to your post, but the "i'm swedish" response made me think of that story.
clarice
(5,504 posts)brush
(53,787 posts)this stuff always seems to come from countries that self-segregate and again, I hate to say it, "whites" are the ones doing the self-segregating.
What's up with that? Skin color is just an adaptation to climate.
If we don't destroy the planet and human race survives, we will all eventually be shades of brown in skin color.
Even the racists and self-segregators aren't strong enough to stop that inevitability.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)and the reason is common culture and history.
I am willing to bet there isn't one example in human history of large groups of people moving from one place to another and assimilating immediately.
brush
(53,787 posts)How many centuries will it take for assimilation?
The self-segregation has and continues to go on.
But fear not, the country is browning as we speak. And that's what the self-segregators are afraid of (see the Republican party).
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Still seething over moving the Scotch-Irish there in the 17th century.
Countries (and states and towns and neighborhoods) that are all one ethnicity tend to have higher social trust according to the research in the field. You either create a common culture (Germany, Italy, US) or else their are horrible ethnic feuds and wars. Look no further than Iraq. Or Yugoslavia. Or Sudan. There is either a strong central government (Rome) or war.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)And that was an exodus of what, 400 miles, with common language, customs, and culture?
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)where people from all over can live, or at least have some small opportunity to live, where they want, is still pretty new. It also wouldn't have just happened. Not peacefully anyway. It's been fueled by the same cheap energy that fuels all of society.
Humans have lived in bands and small tribes for a much longer time than in an increasingly single, complex global civilization.
genwah
(574 posts)white, I'm British."
long pause
Darius: "you should really write that down...
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Seriously, I think we'll find racism just about everywhere, denied and rationalized to varying degrees.