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leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:41 AM Jul 2014

Should 5 Catholic men decide anything for women?

I don't get why we have 5 Catholic men on the court. That is absurd. I think a couple of them are Opus Dei which is even worse.

I've noticed that the court is often divided women against men now. What we need is to get a couple more women on the court. Then things will really get good.

What we need is to get a whole lot more women in everywhere. At least 50% of all Congress should be women.

Until that happens we will just continue to get these absurd, Catholic men decisions.

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Should 5 Catholic men decide anything for women? (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 OP
Hillary Clinton would get that done quinnox Jul 2014 #1
Not Catholic decisions at all 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #2
Clearly they do. Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #3
I think Hillary would make changes. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #4
Roe vs Wade yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #7
+1 n/t ChazII Jul 2014 #22
We also have a Catholic woman on the court KamaAina Jul 2014 #5
25% of America, 66% of the Supreme Court nt IronLionZion Jul 2014 #10
and the other 3 are Jewish IronLionZion Jul 2014 #12
Most of the Catholic women I know leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #18
GOP Political Strategy is predictable, idiotic, and persistent IronLionZion Jul 2014 #6
Just a couple less Opus Dei Catholics might do the trick CanonRay Jul 2014 #8
Problem is that pesky little document called the Constitution. WillowTree Jul 2014 #9
Was President Obama wrong to appoint a Catholic to the Supreme Court? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #11
I believe that the Catholic Church has become too powerful. Brigid Jul 2014 #13
No SamKnause Jul 2014 #14
Would it be better if it was 3 Catholics, 1 Episcopalian and 1 Lutheran? onenote Jul 2014 #15
Protestant churchs have changed a lot since Roe vs Wade. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #19
Most are still not terribly liberal on abortion onenote Jul 2014 #21
I was thinking more on gay rights. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #24
If they were really Catholic, we'd be better off. Orsino Jul 2014 #16
I wouldn't want 5 nuns on the court, either. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2014 #20
The Justices are bishops for the 1% leftstreet Jul 2014 #17
You could not have put it more correctly. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #23
 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
2. Not Catholic decisions at all
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jul 2014

The stance of the Catholic Church is Pro Union, Pro imigration, and to work to improve the life of the Common man.
These justices not only do not follow the Law. They do not follow Church mandate in Human Rights and Treatment.
I will grant you that this ruling is in line with Doctrine, but they have failed an many others.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
3. Clearly they do.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jul 2014

How do we deal with that? We also saw this week unanimous decisions that were not very popular here either. We can hope that we are able to fill seats but that may not mean we will always have the decisions we want. I know what you mean by your question though.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
4. I think Hillary would make changes.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jul 2014

It's important because these ultra conservative men simply are not qualified to make these important decisions for women. Women need to be the ones making these choices.

Actually, I don't think men should have any say in this stuff. These are women's issues and women need to be in control of this stuff.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
12. and the other 3 are Jewish
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:14 AM
Jul 2014

not sure how much of America is Jewish, but its not much. You'd think protestants would be bothered by an exclusively catholic and jewish court.



leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
18. Most of the Catholic women I know
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jul 2014

practice birth control. They tend to just be practical about the whole thing.

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
6. GOP Political Strategy is predictable, idiotic, and persistent
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jul 2014

W thought he could win some Catholic votes for GOP by appointing Alito and Roberts since running against a Catholic John Kerry. Many catholics traditionally voted Dem (urban types, latinos, northeast, etc) while GOP has been anti-catholic before when it was associated with immigrants from Ireland and Italy who had different cultural traditions than the mostly protestant germans and english and others who came over before them.

Religion has been a big part of the GOP campaigns for the past few decades and they pretend that the Dems are oppressing religion and catholics in particular on the issue of denying a woman's right to choice.

The main reason a Repub ever appoints any sort of extreme right wing minority to anything is that any questioning or opposition from dems on policy will be immediately turned into "We are promoting diversity but those bigoted Dems are persecuting him because he's a minority!" It's scary to think someone might actually fall for that bullshit. GOP can never judge someone on the content of their character ever. It must ALWAYS be about their religion, ethnicity, gender, or whatever.

Stacking the court with a religion that is only about 1/4 of the general population was a politically strategic move.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
9. Problem is that pesky little document called the Constitution.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jul 2014

They were all appointed by presidents and approved by the Senate. We can't allow discrimination on religious grounds and we sure can't allow discrimination on the basis of gender. So they're on the court and, constitutionally, they get to rule on the cases that come before them.

Nobody said that our government or our constitution is perfect. One more example.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
13. I believe that the Catholic Church has become too powerful.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jul 2014

And that is dangerous for women. It isn't just the Supreme Court and Hobby Lobby. What about areas of the country where the only hospital for miles around is a Catholic hospital where a woman may be refused the care she needs if a pregnancy goes awry? I have heard more than one horror story about that. Women cannot allow men to have that kind of control over them. They simply cannot.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
15. Would it be better if it was 3 Catholics, 1 Episcopalian and 1 Lutheran?
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:44 AM
Jul 2014

The two dissenters in Roe v Wade were Rehnquist (Lutheran) and White (Episcopalian). Or if a couple of the current Catholics were replaced by Southern Baptists would it matter?

Focusing on the religion of Justices is a slippery slope. No one should be "owed" a Supreme Court seat because of their religion, nor should anyone be disqualified because of their religion.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
24. I was thinking more on gay rights.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jul 2014

I didn't even think about abortion.

Are any churches more liberal on abortion other than the Unitarians maybe.

A long time ago I was at a meeting at a Unitarian Church here in KC and the abortion issue came up and completely split the group down the middle. It was very contentious even among very liberal people.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
20. I wouldn't want 5 nuns on the court, either.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jul 2014

The court should reflect the views of all the diverse ideas in this country.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
17. The Justices are bishops for the 1%
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jul 2014

Chauffeur driven ambulance chasers tasked with keeping the lower classes in line and profits moving ever upwards

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