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elleng

(131,129 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:22 PM Apr 2012

FUNNY, just occurred to me,

request made by Judge Smith for statement of DOJ as to authority for 'judicial review,' discussing on Lawrence show now, SAME THING I'll work on shortly for THOM HARTMANN, after his rant naming names (in particular, MY name!)

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FUNNY, just occurred to me, (Original Post) elleng Apr 2012 OP
I KNOW! I saw that... NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #1
May ask you to edit for me, SKP!!! elleng Apr 2012 #2
It would be my sincere pleasure to, yes, elleng! NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #3
I'm not getting it -- who is Judge Smith? (I know I'll be ashamed and gateley Apr 2012 #4
No need to be embarrassed, gate; lots going on! elleng Apr 2012 #7
Thanks for the link -- I'll go get smart! gateley Apr 2012 #13
You serving at the bench your honor? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #5
go get him, elleng! Whisp Apr 2012 #6
I'm planning to explain something about the Constitution, and judicial review, to him, Whisp. elleng Apr 2012 #9
He called out your name? Cleita Apr 2012 #8
'Not so cool' DUers??? You make lists of COOL and NOT SO COOL DUers??? elleng Apr 2012 #10
Well I have always considered you a cool DUer, but yes I guess I do list cool and uncool Cleita Apr 2012 #11
I don't plan to talk to him. elleng Apr 2012 #12
Free Speech TV. Let Google lead you there. Cleita Apr 2012 #15
Childish to inform a well-known and respected commentator elleng Apr 2012 #19
The best way to do it is to talk to him directly on the airwaves. Cleita Apr 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Cleita Apr 2012 #16
Oops.. thanks. MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #17
SUE??? elleng Apr 2012 #20
Sorry my bad. Cleita Apr 2012 #22
I don't want to put him down, I want to inform him elleng Apr 2012 #24
Your way of course. Cleita Apr 2012 #26
I saw the segment Thom called out regarding "read the constitution" MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #18
Reading 'this?' elleng Apr 2012 #21
That should be cool, are you going to post the piece publicly? joshcryer Apr 2012 #25

gateley

(62,683 posts)
4. I'm not getting it -- who is Judge Smith? (I know I'll be ashamed and
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:42 PM
Apr 2012

embarrassed when you tell me, but I've really no clue!

elleng

(131,129 posts)
7. No need to be embarrassed, gate; lots going on!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:52 PM
Apr 2012

Judge on 5th Circuit Court of Appeals panel, just hearing oral argument in an 'Obamacare' appeal, who told counsel for government to explain, in writing, within 48 hours, 3 pages, single-spaced, President's (administration's) position on 'judicial review,' after judge heard POTUS' statement about role of Supremes in reviewing Affordable Care Act.

Story's in here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/101489399

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
6. go get him, elleng!
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:44 PM
Apr 2012

I'm not sure what you are talking about
but I know he called you out on his show.

so sic'em!!

elleng

(131,129 posts)
9. I'm planning to explain something about the Constitution, and judicial review, to him, Whisp.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:56 PM
Apr 2012

I hope to respond to his criticism, beyond his complaint that I referred to wiki, which, in this case, had it right, of course. Been out of town, so need a couple days to get back into things.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. He called out your name?
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 10:53 PM
Apr 2012

He called out your DU moniker, that's hardly calling out names. I've got to admit you were included in a list of not so cool DUers so maybe that's why you are miffed.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
10. 'Not so cool' DUers??? You make lists of COOL and NOT SO COOL DUers???
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:02 PM
Apr 2012

I'm angry that he was as wrong as he was, having thought he was well-respected for a reason.
I was #1 in his rant. I'm not 'miffed,' its more important than that.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. Well I have always considered you a cool DUer, but yes I guess I do list cool and uncool
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:06 PM
Apr 2012

DUers, but it's my private list and I don't share it with anyone. However, have you tried to call into his show or show up on his website message board to address this and tell him directly? He has named DUers names in the past, but only in praise so I guess him being critical was a departure, so call him and talk to him directly.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
12. I don't plan to talk to him.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:09 PM
Apr 2012

I'm an attorney, and I plan to educate him, in a 'lawyerly' way, in writing.

Maybe you can give me links? E.mail address? Website?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Free Speech TV. Let Google lead you there.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:13 PM
Apr 2012

I will not aid and abet you on this. You are being childish. Since you are a lawyer, do your research.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
19. Childish to inform a well-known and respected commentator
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:20 PM
Apr 2012

of the facts, or lack thereof, of something he said, loud, on the public airwaves???
Thanks

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
23. The best way to do it is to talk to him directly on the airwaves.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:26 PM
Apr 2012

If you write him, most likely someone else on his staff will read and reply. But it's up to you.

Response to Cleita (Reply #11)

Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #14)

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
22. Sorry my bad.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:24 PM
Apr 2012

When lawyers talk about "educating" it usually means sue. Perhaps you need to pull back your rhetoric. If you really want to educate Hartmann, call into his show. He will talk to you. He talks to all kinds of people who disagree with him. He is respectful. He is heard all over the country and overseas, so if you want to put him down and educate him, that's the way to do it.

elleng

(131,129 posts)
24. I don't want to put him down, I want to inform him
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:29 PM
Apr 2012

so he can understand the way the legal system works, and use his knowledge usefully, in the future. This will require, imo, something like a legal brief; I will make it brief. Not conducive to a phone call.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
26. Your way of course.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:31 PM
Apr 2012

However on the air you usually are allowed a few minutes so it will be brief anyway. Try mail if that's what you really want. I doubt if you will convince him though. A polite confrontation voice to voice would be more effective IMHO. It's your choice.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
18. I saw the segment Thom called out regarding "read the constitution"
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:20 PM
Apr 2012

To tell you the truth, it might be better to call him physically if you could on the show.

Even though you can argue he's wrong on some things (I've caught Thom being wrong), I think he'd be more reasonable to admit it.

Ya think he'd be reading this?

elleng

(131,129 posts)
21. Reading 'this?'
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 11:23 PM
Apr 2012

I may post what I write to him, after I've written it, but I plan to write him directly, and inform him about the law. I don't want to discuss or debate with him.

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