When they finally dismantle the ACA as they inevitably will due to the myriad flaws and loopholes, coupled with a spineless Democratic party that will allow it to happen it will be lifetimes before we see anyone touch healthcare reform again.

I have been trained in the law and it's uses and applications in my state as well as the HBE system as it was made a part of our duties as it was integrated into our existing systems. There are coworkers with 20+ years, some with 30 who feel this law was nothing more than another bailout disguised as health reform and using Medicaid expansion as cover.

Gonna have an answer for that, or are you going to go back to the "end the filibuster" argument. When ending the filibuster had fewer votes than the ACA.

But, I'll play. Because now every single person in America has to pay into the system that is guaranteed to make them rich.

Is that really beyond your grasp?

I will admit that 9 million people or so can now get insurance (not necessarily care) due to the ACA. This is great for those 9 million, not so much for others. Why will you not admit that it guarantees billions in profits for useless middlemen whose job it is to find ways not to pay?

was just changed from Aetna to Cigna supposedly because of cost. With the switch to Cigna I'm looking at paying $20 a month more for my share of the insurance and $20 more per specialist visit (now up to $60) and $10 more per brand name prescription. I have a couple of chronic conditions so it does add up.

It is helping millions. That's going to make it even worse when it's ripped to shreds because it was put together so half assedly trying to be all things to way too many of the wrong people and with way too many incorrect assumptions (Shocking, I know!) being made, particularly as it related to just how far the Republicans would go to stir up anger, bile, and hatred towards it.

"Oh, don't worry. Once it goes into place it will be soooo popular and the Republicans will never be able to repeal it or kill it." How many fucking times did we have to hear that. Hows that working out for us?

But hey, the important thing is that we didn't hurt Lincoln/Nelson/Baucus's fees by actually twisting their arms, holding their feet to the fire and actually making them get in line with what the majority of our party wanted and what was in the best interest of the country. So maybe all the people affected when this gets dismantled (including myself and my family) can comfort themselves with that.

People don't like the truth.

We needed single payer...not Obamacare. Obamacare is just going to create a bigger mess since it only maintains an inferior system.

Something to build on.

has already signaled that they plan to find a way for the Federal Government to guarantee coverage for birth control for those women who work for packs of Hobby-Lobby-type-assholes, might this decision hasten the adoption of single payer?

So irate over this that I am looking frantically for a silver lining.

huge bonuses for CEO's, mountains of paper for a simple test, shopping around for the least worst insurance company, twice the price for the worst care in the rich world....gone. And the Green Family will be shit out of luck.

But they haven't much to worry about. Heritage Care has locked SP out for at least 25 years, so the religious freaks and corporatists will be able to decide whether you get heath care for a long time yet.

And if we don't have a Democrat in the White House next time SCOTUS appointments come 'round, they'll win too.

Imagine if all women worked for Hobby Lobby and couldn't quit... That's what single payer with a rethug House, Senate, White House and Court could look like. And don't think it isn't possible...

This ruling was the beginning. The court, itself, suggested that the government provide coverage for the contraception that they said HL wasn't required to provide.

They actually suggested single payer as a solution to the issue. The more these superstitious freaks push their dogma on us the closer to single payer we're going to get and each time a small chunk of single payer will be the solution. And we'll have this court decision to thank as having been the precedent for the eventual implementation of Single payer.

So, I for one, hope they keep pushing and overreaching. They are going to be their own downfall.

own the US, things will get much worse before they get better.

starting with the Mustang School District this August!


Theocracy now! Theocracy forever!

I think businesses want to divest of the costs of maintaining such programs. We need corresponding shifts in moving health care to a permanent non profit status at all levels of care. We also need to reduce profits for insurers or convert the insurance business to nonprofit and/or perhaps move these people into jobs dealing with the actual work of single payer. It will happen.

They wantz your babiez, and they don't wantz you has any say in it.

The Court suggested that we start with contraception. Now many corpor..er people, are suing to get out of many other procedures. I suppose the court would suggest that we add them all and then some more...and we already have 20 million poor people so what the heck. Might as well call it Single payer and be done with it.
I never understood why the corps paid into peoples healthcare anyway.Why is it american business who must support the entire healthcare system ? They should not ! They should pay a fair wage, they should harbor safe working conditions. They are responsible for many things.
I am no fan of the corp. But I am a fan of small business local business. SP would help small business and independent business and that is why corps dont support SP I suppose.