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William769

(55,147 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:01 PM Jul 2014

After Hobby Lobby, Faith Leaders Want Right To LGBT Discrimination

Piggybacking on the Hobby Lobby ruling, another group of faith leaders is urging President Obama to include broad exemptions for religious employers in an executive order he plans to issue barring anti-LGBT discrimination by federal contractors.

Fourteen religious leaders sent a letter to Obama Tuesday asking him to ensure that a broad religious exemption similar to that contained in the current version of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act is included in the executive order he is preparing to sign that will prohibit contractors doing more than $10,000 worth of business with the federal government from discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. The most prominent signee is megachurch pastor Rick Warren, who gave the invocation at Obama's first inauguration but has since criticized some of the president's actions, saying they infringe on religious liberty.

The letter argues that the Hobby Lobby ruling indicates that the federal government should be giving more deference to religious organizations that do not wish to employ LGBT people because it conflicts with their religious values. This week the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that closely held corporations can decline to provide coverage for birth control in the health care plans they offer to their female employees if the coverage would violate the owners' religious beliefs.

This comes on the heels of another letter sent to President Obama last week which was signed by more than 100 religious leaders asking him to "respect this vital element of religious freedom" by exempting religiously affiliated groups from adhering to the LGBT antidiscrimination protections contained in the executive order President Obama has announced he is planning to sign.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2014/07/03/after-hobby-lobby-faith-leaders-want-right-lgbt-discrimination

First they came for the women on this now, they are coming for LGBT. Who's next? This is not good.

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After Hobby Lobby, Faith Leaders Want Right To LGBT Discrimination (Original Post) William769 Jul 2014 OP
Fine! No contract for you, discriminator! muntrv Jul 2014 #1
Misogyny and homophobia walk hand in hand theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #2
No, they didn't. William769 Jul 2014 #3
I don't think enough people realized what the ramifications of that case would be theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #8
Agreed. William769 Jul 2014 #9
You took the words right out of my mouth with that last sentence. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #4
This is my battle cry. I know some other unsavory groups that use it, but damn they don't own it. William769 Jul 2014 #5
Yep, that works. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #6
This is the sham of the HL decision.... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #7

William769

(55,147 posts)
3. No, they didn't.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jul 2014

I was madder than hell when the ruling first came down & ready to fight. Now they are just adding fuel to my fire.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
8. I don't think enough people realized what the ramifications of that case would be
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jul 2014

And some folks still don't get it -- religious extremists won't stop until this country is turned into a theocracy. Women, LGBTs, immigrants, people with brown skin, all are perceived as a threat to the existing power structure. If they can't eliminate us outright, they'll incapacitate us via the courts, which they own -- along with the corporations, the Congress, the churches and the money.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
7. This is the sham of the HL decision....
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:20 PM
Jul 2014

The 5 male Papists on the Court (who should have recused themselves), wrote that this exemption only applies to the contraception mandate in the ACA, not to other provisions of the ACA such as blood transfusions or vaccinations and only applies to closely held companies.

Those words have absolutely no meaning. Once the Court recognizes that a company, not a person, has a religious liberty interest and that interest trumps a law that was passed by Congress and signed by the President it is game over.

They have established the legal precedent that companies are persons with religious beliefs and that those beliefs justify excuse from complying with valid laws. Period. End of sentence.

This holding will not prevent companies from exempting themselves from employment and housing laws. This holding will not prevent companies from attempting to skirt all manner of generally applicable laws.

As we see now companies want to be able to use the fact they hate fags to be able to not have to hire them or treat them with dignity. The religious bigots will come out and say they don't want to hire Muslims, Buddhists, etc. The racial bigots will come out and say they have the right to not to hire or rent to blacks or hispanics.

This is the worst slippery slope I have ever seen in my lifetime.

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