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SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:11 PM Jul 2014

My fundie neighbor is apparently a socialist

I live in a townhouse with other units right next door. Unfortunately for me, my one neighbor is a complete RW, hardcore fundamentalist Christian, bible thumping, Rush-Limbaugh-blasting-from-the-car-radio, wackadoo. The only time we talk, she must interject her version of the "Lord's will" into the conversation. Needless to say, I try to avoid her like the plague.

I heard my water spigot (MY water spigot, she has her own) squeaking earlier. Figured it was the lawn maintenance guys watering the garden. Looked outside, it was the crazy neighbor freely using my water spigot for some holy purpose. She set up a bunch of chairs and is apparently having a party in the grass near our homes.

For many years, she's felt free to park in anyone's spot even though they're clearly assigned (two per unit). Now she's using my water without even asking. In the past, the landlord questioned us over water usage because the rates are extraordinarily high. I knew at the time she ran laundry basically night and day for her business (save on costs by using water that's included in your landlord's rent).

This is what burns my ass. She'll be the FIRST one to proclaim self responsibility and how everyone should work harder and no freeloaders, no handouts, so on and so forth (same old RW talking points). For years, she'd knock on the door asking for eggs, or milk, or detergent, you name it. I've not once asked them for a single thing.

My question then is this. What in hell makes her so blind to the fact that she steals water people pay for, steals parking spots habitually, constantly asks for handouts and never pays them back, and yet she'd be the first one yelling at a bus load of illegal immigrant children to go home and die because it's not her responsibility to take care of them?

I'm so tempted to open the front door and tell her "Lady, nuha. This is a capitalist parking lot and water spigot. I pay for my two spots, and I pay for that water, as you and your husband do for your own unit. You didn't ask, and you never repay favors, I'm not a fan of freeloaders parking in my spots and stealing my water".

The incredible gall and nerve and blindness of the RWers. They cannot see their own hypocrisy.

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My fundie neighbor is apparently a socialist (Original Post) SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 OP
Turn it off from the basement shut off. Historic NY Jul 2014 #1
That would be both awesome and also scary at the same time SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #3
Just reply, "The Lord giveth...and The Lord taketh away." PATXgirl Jul 2014 #11
lol SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #12
Other option, "I'm waiting for Moses to get the rest of the Isrealite Children across. Be with you PATXgirl Jul 2014 #16
If I could only mix in red food coloring with the water from the faucet SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #19
+10 sakabatou Jul 2014 #13
LOL Cha Jul 2014 #62
Great response! mnhtnbb Jul 2014 #4
That's exactly it SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #7
You could say.. "Well, Jesus told me.. Cha Jul 2014 #63
Walk out, turn off the water and retrieve your hose. Warpy Jul 2014 #2
I read the story and you are very much the capitalist. former9thward Jul 2014 #6
Excuse me? Warpy Jul 2014 #8
Well, I guess I could say something about using a water faucet former9thward Jul 2014 #9
Are you sure that you actually know what capitalism and socialism are? GoneOffShore Jul 2014 #14
Do you? former9thward Jul 2014 #18
You seem confused. GoneOffShore Jul 2014 #38
Please don't project. former9thward Jul 2014 #40
Bless your heart. GoneOffShore Jul 2014 #65
Don't you mean, "Too many Capitalists wish to take advantage of others."? mr blur Jul 2014 #24
No. former9thward Jul 2014 #25
Yes remind her Moses said take 2 tablets.... Historic NY Jul 2014 #36
Snap! Cha Jul 2014 #64
Tell her that Jesus gets sad when she steals your water (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #5
Stealing water and not turning into wine SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #10
And if it upsets him enough he'll start to kill kittens. GoneOffShore Jul 2014 #15
She knows exactly what she is doing The Second Stone Jul 2014 #17
Ask her what could make her do such un-Christian things pinboy3niner Jul 2014 #20
"What compelled you to steal your neighbor's water?" SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #23
If you behave like a doormat expect to get stepped on. CK_John Jul 2014 #21
No it's not that SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #22
Sovereign Citizen-Lite. Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #26
Just remove the on-off knob from your spigot. GoCubsGo Jul 2014 #27
Even better... SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #43
Tell her she's A TAKER !! Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #28
You seem to not really understand socialism. Brickbat Jul 2014 #29
I'm joking clearly SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #32
She's a self-centered asshole! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #30
They are all a bunch of freeloaders .. SummerSnow Jul 2014 #31
Got one too - KT2000 Jul 2014 #33
I feel your pain SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #34
Ha! Good one! KT2000 Jul 2014 #35
All that is necessary SheilaT Jul 2014 #37
Oh I won the parking lot battle SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #39
Crash her party, eat her food. If she confronts you, Ilsa Jul 2014 #46
Love it SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #47
Tell her you've been lusting after her in your heart... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #41
That, I would not do. Ever. SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #42
So did you go over and run her water? Just let it run. nt valerief Jul 2014 #44
That would be hilarious too SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #45
I wonder what she'd call anyone else who did what she's doing? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #48
If they had darker skin...shit I know exactly what she'd call them SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #50
I know you meant to write "darker skin", but "darker sin" is far more intriguing... winter is coming Jul 2014 #53
Ha! Fixed after some 4th celebrating SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #69
Uber RWer I worked with would do her bills and taxes while she gave her students coloring Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2014 #54
I think that I would have had a chat avebury Jul 2014 #66
My lawyerly response.... Jim Lane Jul 2014 #49
Yes! My new lawyer haha SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #52
Get her butt tossed out! I've seen these types are they are a pox to the neighborhood. TheBlackAdder Jul 2014 #57
Woody Guthrie used to say that Jesus was the first socialist outlaw. no_hypocrisy Jul 2014 #51
I'd love to play her some SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #58
I guess it wouldn't be good to go over there during the party, flop down in a chair, winter is coming Jul 2014 #55
Haha! Too late now but... SirRevolutionary Jul 2014 #56
literally the 10th Commandment nt MisterP Jul 2014 #59
Put a "Smile, you're on camera" sign? sakabatou Jul 2014 #60
That's the way republicans are, point their fingers and B Calm Jul 2014 #61
She isn't a socialist. She's just a hypocrite and a flaky person. Quantess Jul 2014 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2014 #68

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
3. That would be both awesome and also scary at the same time
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

as it would probably invite her to ring my doorbell. And I'd honestly let her just use my socialist spigot freely than engage in conversation and debate.

Maybe if I just turn it on and off rapidly and yell "even THOU shalt not steal" through the window

PATXgirl

(192 posts)
16. Other option, "I'm waiting for Moses to get the rest of the Isrealite Children across. Be with you
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:39 PM
Jul 2014

In just a sec."

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
19. If I could only mix in red food coloring with the water from the faucet
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:47 PM
Jul 2014

I'd open the door and say "Now you've done it! You've poured out on the earth the seven bowls of the wrath of God!".

mnhtnbb

(31,399 posts)
4. Great response!
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

And to answer the question, she is 100% convinced Jesus approves all her actions, so why should she
be concerned with what you think?

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
7. That's exactly it
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:28 PM
Jul 2014

she'll just proclaim Jesus told her (in her mind) that it's just fine.

I wouldn't mind in the slightest if she parked in my spots when I don't need the extra one, or used the water, if she just extended the common courtesy of asking. It just burns me up that I can't run into her without a holy lecture on my evil sins, yet she feels free to gobble up any and all resources known to man because of her manifest destiny or whatever mentality.

Cha

(297,500 posts)
63. You could say.. "Well, Jesus told me..
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:40 AM
Jul 2014

just the opposite." And, he also told me that hypocrites are going to hell in a freaking hand basket."

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
2. Walk out, turn off the water and retrieve your hose.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jul 2014

If she squawks, embarrass her by proclaiming loudly that if she wants to use anything that belongs to you, she needs to ask you first instead of just taking it. Let her know that taking things without asking the owners is stealing and that is against one of the ten commandments.

Yes, it's come up with my neighbors once in a blue moon and I've been pissed off enough to let fly in front of their guests. They never stole again.

I've also connected my outside hose with a spigot on a neighbor's house when his water line broke for the week it took to organize a new water line. However, he asked.

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
6. I read the story and you are very much the capitalist.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jul 2014

But she is not a socialist. She is someone who likes to take advantage of good-hearted capitalists. Not any different than those who ask companies for donations for this or that. In fact your story is exactly why socialism will never work. Too many wish to take advantage of others.

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
9. Well, I guess I could say something about using a water faucet
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:31 PM
Jul 2014

and a parking space as being the definition of socialism. But it is a holiday so I won't.

GoneOffShore

(17,340 posts)
14. Are you sure that you actually know what capitalism and socialism are?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jul 2014

Doesn't seem so from what you've posted.

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
18. Do you?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jul 2014

Are using a water faucet and a parking space your definition of socialism? If not, you may wish to address the OP, not me.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
17. She knows exactly what she is doing
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jul 2014

and isn't blind to it at all. The word on the tip of your tongue is "hypocrite" and maybe thief.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
22. No it's not that
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:55 PM
Jul 2014

Her and I have had our arguments for years now and I put my foot down constantly. Today is just the latest in the long tale of her encroaching on my turf.

My mind's just boggled about the insanity and/or complete ignorance of these people. And with all things considered, I'd rather pick some other more urgent battle with her next time, like when she asks me for an update on my sins.

Just needed to vent to people who would see what I'm talking about.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
27. Just remove the on-off knob from your spigot.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:26 PM
Jul 2014

It should be just a matter of removing a screw. if you have the standard outdoor faucet. No need to turn off the shut-off valve and disrupt your service to the rest of your house. Screw it back on whenever you need to use the tap. They also sell faucet locks, for around $15-25. Just google it.

I don't know what to tell you about the parking space, however, other than to just tell to get her fucking car out of your spot. If she's preventing you from using your spot, just park right behind her so she can't move when she wants to go somewhere, and has to come ask you to remove your vehicle. Then, tell her you'll move it when you feel like it, and that you're busy right now. That's what the passive-aggressive asshole in me would do.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
43. Even better...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jul 2014

I could crazy glue a package of birth control pills on the knob! She wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.

The parking's been all worked out after the great Parking Spot Battle (holy wars) of 2013. She'll probably jet into my spot moments before she knows the Rapture is coming just to rub it in. But that's ok, I can move it when she's gone.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
32. I'm joking clearly
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:41 PM
Jul 2014

...clearly. This post was meant as a rant not a debate on economic systems. She's a plain old hypocrite and there are days I'd like to call her a socialist purely because obviously (or maybe not so obviously) it would rile her up.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
31. They are all a bunch of freeloaders ..
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

Some use the term that they are Sovereign Citizens so they can mooch.


She's no socialist just a freeloading right winger

KT2000

(20,586 posts)
33. Got one too -
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jul 2014

FOX watching, Glenn Beck fool -
he sprayed pesticides on MY property because the insects will walk over to his property. (I am strictly no chemical and he knows it.)
Puts stuff in my garbage can when his is full.
I have discussed this with him and it has improved.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
34. I feel your pain
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 04:49 PM
Jul 2014

I've had heated debates, civil discussions, and otherwise meaningless squabbles with my fundie neighbor. Things seem to die down for a while, but then she turns up again in the future.

I'm going to ask mine for her parking spots when the Rapture comes.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
37. All that is necessary
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jul 2014

for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

By doing nothing you're allowing for the triumph of this neighbor's evil. Don't put up with it. Confront her every single time she takes your parking space. March outside and turn off the outside faucet and hand her back her hose. And so on.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
39. Oh I won the parking lot battle
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jul 2014

Had the landlord assign spots. The result is, she doesn't park in my spot, she does park in the other neighbor's spot but she could have asked for and received permission. I don't know.

This is the first/only thing she's done since our neighborly battles began and I thought ended with the assigned spots. Her party hasn't begun yet, and the faucet usage stopped so I'm debating about picking this battle or waiting for something worse next time. There is no real great outcome for this one since it's over basically, she just irritates me in general with her hypocrisy.

Rest assured, I stopped playing Mr Nice Neighbor with her years ago and I know it pisses her off that I'm still here next door with my sinful ways. Ha!

Ilsa

(61,696 posts)
46. Crash her party, eat her food. If she confronts you,
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:25 PM
Jul 2014

Tell her in front of her guests that it is to compensate you for the water she STOLE FROM YOU.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
47. Love it
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jul 2014

I'm so tempted. After a little Independence Day celebrating, this just might happen. I've been known to post YouTube videos of my prior fundie neighbor experiences, that would make a great one.

3catwoman3

(24,026 posts)
41. Tell her you've been lusting after her in your heart...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jul 2014

...and maybe she'll want nothing to do with anything that belongs to you because it will be tainted by your sinful ways.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
42. That, I would not do. Ever.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jul 2014

I know how they work, the hypocrites. They hollar and scream all day about what others are doing in their bedroom because they're jealous. And if I tell her all of that, I'm afraid she'll take me up on the offer and convert to reason

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
45. That would be hilarious too
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jul 2014

Just randomly open the door, go over there, turn on the water, walk away. Crazy smile and all haha! Perfect!

If she says anything, I'll say "Yay, water games!".

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
48. I wonder what she'd call anyone else who did what she's doing?
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jul 2014

Thief, probably. And thug, just because they love to use that word.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
50. If they had darker skin...shit I know exactly what she'd call them
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2014, 07:32 PM - Edit history (1)

I have an even better story than this one.

My other neighbor. 86 yr old WWII vet, WASP, Libertarian, gun humper extreme, former pastor at a church here, current chaplain at the hospital.

They built a beautiful house a few hundred yards away from our house. Builder left building supplies all over, some rebar in particular. He joked one night about stealing some. I thought hee hee haha ya right Mr Pastor.

Turns out he wasn't joking. He asked me to help build his raised beds in his garden. No problemo, I told him any time. Just call me. Then he asked seriously, let's go "lift" some of that rebar for the garden in the middle of the night.

Once I knew he was for real, I was like shit no. I'll help you build your garden, but Mr Pastor, well-to-do man can certainly afford a few pieces of rebar that's totally not needed for a garden for fux sake. He said ok, whatever, he'd get it on his own. Sure as shit he went back a few times and talked other neighbors into helping him steal it.

This was just weeks after the Trayvon case was over. He rejoiced and regaled me with stories about how he'd do this and that with his multitude of guns had he caught Trayvon in the same situation and Zimmerman was a hero and blah blah Fox News talking points.

I was like, wait wtf. What if the builder of that fancy new house down the road was a CCW carrier RWer freak and saw some guy lifting his rebar a few different times? What if he popped you a few times and you lived? Trayvon was walking through a neighborhood vs you ACTUALLY stealing shit a few different times. What if he blasted your ass and you lived, and were in the hospital later thinking it all over.

I just can't believe the hypocrisy. Young black kid walking home vs old white guy actually stealing stuff from an actual business man on a few occasions. It's almost like he thinks his WASP-iness gives him a get-out-of-jail-free card. He prays over dying people in the hospital to this day, literally lol His holiness.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
53. I know you meant to write "darker skin", but "darker sin" is far more intriguing...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jul 2014

what would I have to do to qualify?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
54. Uber RWer I worked with would do her bills and taxes while she gave her students coloring
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jul 2014

book busywork. They are totally blind to their blatant hypocrisy.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
66. I think that I would have had a chat
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jul 2014

with the builder and give him a head's up on what your neighbor did and let the builder decide if he wanted to call the police.

I would have also considered giving the landlord a heads up if the woman was abusing the water usage. Her actions could have had the impact of impacting everyone else's leases if the landlord changed the terms at the time the leases were up for renewal.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
49. My lawyerly response....
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jul 2014

I would make sure I had a camera (even if only a phone) handy. Next time she was running someone else's water, I'd pop outside and start photographing her.

As you've described it, she isn't stealing from you. The landlord pays for the water regardless of which faucet it comes out of. The only issue is that the landlord might get on your case if it looks like your water usage is unusually high. The photograph(s) will be available to you to provide to the landlord in response. She's seen to be (1) more responsible for the high water bill, and (2) conscious of the problem and actively trying to deceive the landlord.

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
52. Yes! My new lawyer haha
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jul 2014

I do have security cameras because of much worse things that happened here last year that I wanted to document. It was those cameras that got me to get the landlord to assign parking spots. I did not have them running today, not a big deal really. The water usage goes by our 3 unit buildings and they can't tell which individual unit is using the most. But I know and I've mentioned it to the landlord before, it's her and her water fetishes.

For years they asked about our exceedingly high water usage and eventually (when I decided to taddle) I told them she runs laundry 24-7 for her business. And since she feels free to abuse the arrangement day and night, I felt free to let them know she was gobbling up all our resources because the Lord in her head told her she's chosen and free to do so.

Honestly, I don't want to get her tossed out. I'd SO rather just leave here. But I wouldn't mind donning a Jesus Halloween costume and joining her little party for a debate about now haha!

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)
57. Get her butt tossed out! I've seen these types are they are a pox to the neighborhood.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 10:50 PM
Jul 2014

They will move to a new location and rain on their new neighbors in a similar fashion, but they will be gone.

We've made the mistake of renting our house to some really devout Baptists, who we felt sympathy for, since they were going through a divorce... they've completely trashed the house, promising to fix everything. Then, when they found out how many thousands in damage they did, now are fighting trying to pay anything. Nothing like having animal urine on an oak floored house. --or not paying their electricity and having the sump pump shit off so the finished basement gets flooded out during a storm.

Then, recently, as the house is being restored, another fundie comes by, citing a friend who needs to rent a house. Luckily she backed out of the inquiry before we challenged her.

Another woman was hired as a babysitter for the kids, with references from the rabbi at the local temple. She dented the minivan, set fire to food on the counter and had the 12-year-old put it out (electric range and she used water!). She was abusing the animals, the kids were afraid of here... then she left them unattended at school one morning because she scheduled a dentist appointment at 8AM, when elementary school started at 8:30. The kids waited unsupervised in the vestibule for 15 minutes before staff arrived. Now, this woman only worked TWO days a week, and she had to schedule an appointment that conflicted with her weekly scheduled routine?

===

From now on... anyone who expressed devout beliefs, or comes with a recommendation from a religious order... I will not hire them. There is a reason why the church is the only place offering a recommendation. There is a reason why they are overtly expression their religiosity, which there is something in the bible against those who do that.

no_hypocrisy

(46,151 posts)
51. Woody Guthrie used to say that Jesus was the first socialist outlaw.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jul 2014

Your neighbor's in good company.

I know this response is a non sequitor, but I couldn't resist it.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
55. I guess it wouldn't be good to go over there during the party, flop down in a chair,
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:27 PM
Jul 2014

and loudly say, "Great party! This is the first nice thing that's happened today. When I got home late last night, I found a notice from the management saying the maintenance guys had messed up some plumbing work so my water's not safe and of course those yahoos won't be back until Monday. But yours is okay, right?"

SirRevolutionary

(579 posts)
56. Haha! Too late now but...
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jul 2014

I should have told them that. The government condemned my water for a high reading on abortion pill ingredients. And if she had asked first, I would have warned her....but enjoy your Independence Day!!! lol

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
61. That's the way republicans are, point their fingers and
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 05:32 AM
Jul 2014

do exactly what they blame liberals are doing. Truth is the people on the take usually vote republican.

My right wing farmer neighbor was complaining to me the other day about free loading welfare bums and how deep in debt the country is. He stopped complaining pretty quick when I suggested maybe they should stop throwing our tax dollars away to millionaire farmers in crop subsidies!

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