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(47,488 posts)
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 10:59 PM Jul 2014

Ryan White

We watched the program about the 80s and AIDS of course was mentioned, as was mentioned Ryan White, who acquired the virus from blood transfusion to treat his hemophilia.

But the protests at school and the harassment of his family were too much like the protests of the civil rights of the 60s - several programs that we watched the other week.

There is so much hate and ignorance that it is frightening.

(There is also the program about the 90s. National Geographic, but so much emphasis on Lorena Bobbit, and Anna Nicole Smith that I've had enough. Covering the LA riots after Rodney King was sobering. Roseanne is the one responsible for the election of Bill Clinton??)

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The 60s were "covered" by a bunch of old white guys from the burbs. Warpy Jul 2014 #1
can you talk more about the 70s? Iris Jul 2014 #2
Not much of a culture to remember question everything Jul 2014 #4
The 70's??? DONNA SUMMER! joeybee12 Jul 2014 #5
The 60s burst out in an explosion of color and experimentation Warpy Jul 2014 #7
This makes perfect sense Iris Jul 2014 #8
K&R for the memory of Ryan White Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #3
Ignorance breeds hate lpbk2713 Jul 2014 #6

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
1. The 60s were "covered" by a bunch of old white guys from the burbs.
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:12 AM
Jul 2014

They managed to get everything exactly wrong about what was happening during some very intense years and what had caused it to happen. I can't believe they sent out such incredibly clueless reporters who just made things up rather than talking to the more articulate counter cultural types---and a lot of us were very well read and quite articulate.

I imagine the coverage of ensuing decades is about the same. Well, except the 70s, those years were so abysmal that nobody seems particularly interested in doing a similar show combined with media hype.

I saw part of the 80s show and realized they were all still pussyfooting around that folksy old fraud Reagan instead of listing all the evils that man was responsible for.

Maybe one of these days they'll do a more honest analysis, getting rid of all the Reagan fluffers.

Iris

(15,660 posts)
2. can you talk more about the 70s?
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 05:44 AM
Jul 2014

I was a small child during most of them but when I see movies or literature from that time, I feel life the decade is somewhat unfairly maligned at least with regard to culture. What happened? Can you give some insight?

question everything

(47,488 posts)
4. Not much of a culture to remember
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jul 2014

It was a relief from the turbulent 60s - the murders of our leaders, Vietnam, the Civil Rights movement, the 68' Chicago riots.

Watergate, long gas lines and Stagflation. The revolution in Iran which, I think, was a shameful event, reminding us that we no longer "carried a big stick" to scare anybody.

Polyester Leisure suits and Sonny and Cher.

One important point though: the beginning of the women rights. Many young women, especially the ones proudly claiming that they are not feminists, have no idea that in the beginning of the 70s women could not have any credit on their own. Credit cards, bank loans etc. They needed a man to co-sign.

Also I think, the 70s brought the end of the iron grip of the movie studios, with many independent movie makers that gave some important movies. Jeremiah Johnson, Dog Day Afternoon, Coming Home - to name a few.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
7. The 60s burst out in an explosion of color and experimentation
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jul 2014

The 70s were when conservatives, especially middle aged conservatives, tried to get in on the action. While there were bright spots here and there, they represented an absolute nadir in culture with awful music, hideous clothing, bad drugs, and ugly home design.

At the same time, we had Nixon followed by Ford and a change in government policy that actively depressed wages while the oil shocks went through the economy, causing enormous inflation in the price of everything. Labor was blamed for inflation instead of OPEC and morons who obediently hate anyone they're told to bought the lie.

Most of the worst of the wretched GOP got their start under Nixon and it's also when televangelists started to hit the bigtime, leaving hot tent revivals behind them in favor of air conditioned studios.

I was never as glad to see a decade end as I was the 70s. Unfairly maligned? There is no way to do that to a decade that saw such horrible culture while the worst human beings in the history of this country were nurtured in the bosom of a political party gone very wrong.

Iris

(15,660 posts)
8. This makes perfect sense
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jul 2014

It still seems like some of the films and literature were a bit subversive, but I can see where this was the beginning of some political trends that still impact us today.

Also - the bicentennial - I was a child so had no understanding of how it was being crammed down our throats - but the Colonial American home design - ugh! Haunts me to this day.


I was also keenly awed of the beating labor was taking as my dad was a UAW shop rep. It was certainly the beginning of the end for that part of our economy.

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