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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 01:51 PM Jul 2014

82 Companies Who Think Birth Control is Murder

http://jezebel.com/here-are-the-82-companies-that-think-birth-control-is-m-1598528760?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_facebook&utm_source=jezebel_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Yesterday, a five conservative Catholic dude majority (yes — Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Kennedy are all Catholic) on the Supreme Court sided with Hobby Lobby in a case that sought to establish whether certain corporations could be said to hold "religious beliefs" and whether being compelled to providing an insurance plan that furnished contraception to female employees who needed it would constitute a violation of those corporate beliefs. But the decision was much bigger than just Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Products. Here are the 82 other companies that believe — contrary to scientific evidence — that certain forms of birth control are the same as abortion and that abortion is the same as murder.

The Daily Beast's Abby Haglage did some impressive legwork in assembling this list of 82 other companies — some for profit, others nonprofit — that have mounted challenges to Obamacare's so-called "contraception mandate" and that now stand to apply to be exempt from providing certain non-abortion reproductive health care options to their female employees. Because God has apparently Taken A Stand when it comes to IUDs, and he only told dudes and the Pope about it, since IUD's weren't invented until the Bible was more than 2,000 years old.

While many of the companies listed below aren't household names, some — like Eden Foods and the University of Notre Dame — are massive entities that employ thousands and make millions. Others, like Wheaton College in Illinois, suffered the embarrassment of suing the federal government over Obamacare's birth control mandate, apparently unaware that their health plan already covered contraception (they've since corrected the oversight). And who knows how many other closely held corporations are on the cusp of their own sudden and fervent religious conversion? Who knows how many women will be affected? And who knows how many of those women will, like Hobby Lobby's cashier-heavy workforce, make barely over minimum wage as it is? As Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg noted in her mic drop of a dissent yesterday, Mars Candy, a company that employs 70,000 people, counts as a "closely held" corporation by the definition laid out by the 5 Catholic Dudes who agree that corporations are more people-y than women. TPM's Sahil Kapur points out that "corporate people" capable of holding religious beliefs employ "millions" of Americans.


These 82 companies and nonprofits are just the tip of the iceberg.
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82 Companies Who Think Birth Control is Murder (Original Post) avebury Jul 2014 OP
Dump their plan onecaliberal Jul 2014 #1
Not so easy to do -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2014 #2
The ACA in a way allowed this to happen Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #3
This reminds me of SummerSnow Jul 2014 #4
Smart woman BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #5
That man was an idiot.. SoCalDem Jul 2014 #6
I ask this of men all the time because it really REALLY confuses me BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #8
Unfortunately, too many fundies think avebury Jul 2014 #9
Yes, but they talk about "consequences" for women but never for men BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #10
What is sad is that he didn't have the avebury Jul 2014 #11
Tip of the iceberg indeed. progressoid Jul 2014 #7
K&R! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #12

onecaliberal

(32,866 posts)
1. Dump their plan
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jul 2014

Get insurance on the exchange. These phuckers do not have the right to tell you what to do with the money you work for.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
2. Not so easy to do --
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jul 2014

You cannot qualify for any subsidies to pay for exchange insurance if you do that -- great if you can afford to pay for quality coverage on your own, NOT good if you can't.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
4. This reminds me of
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jul 2014

a friend of mine. She was engaged to this guy. When they started talking about family planning she found out that he was a staunch Catholic. She wanted children but didn't want a house full of them. He was dead set against birth control cause he felt it killed " his babies". So she called off the engagement immediately. Smart of her. Now she's married to another guy and they have 2 adult children. Planned of course as she said.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
5. Smart woman
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jul 2014

Because his contempt of her would not have been confined just to being a brood mare. Anyone who thinks a woman has no right to make decisions about her body does not think she is fully human.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
6. That man was an idiot..
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 03:39 PM
Jul 2014

Did he really think he could provide an income high enough to SUPPORT unlimited quantities of children?

Obviously in HIS plan, she would be totally unable to contribute financially to the family, so it would have been totally on him...and just when would he actually have any time to see any of those children?

In the times we live in, 2 or 3 kids is about the MAX that most people can support...even with TWO working parents, so you either use birth control that actually works (not the "rhythm method&quot , or you give up sex..


BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
8. I ask this of men all the time because it really REALLY confuses me
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

If you follow the fundie logic as a man

A) You don't want to have sex very often; or
B) You want to have a house full of children you will work your life away to support and be poor as church mice

What man really wants either choice? I don't get it. I remember the old pejorative used against Irish and Italian Catholics of huge families living in slums because they couldn't figure out not to have so many children. Who wants to go back to that? You are absolutely correct that the cost of raising a child and especially paying for an education makes having more than a few children financially precarious. The notion that one needs huge families comes from the time when more than half wouldn't make it to adulthood and you needed more farm hands. It makes no sense now.

Men should be on the front lines demanding free birth control for everyone as much as women. Or is it that they really don't think children are their responsibility too?

As an aside, I notice the Greens have been married a good long time and only have 3 children. So I'm sure they've figured out some kind of birth control.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
9. Unfortunately, too many fundies think
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:26 PM
Jul 2014

that it is the wife's responsibility to satisfy her husband anytime he wants it.

I wonder how fundie men would react if they were required to set aside a certain amount of money to support a child (including a college fund) before he was allowed to get lucky? If he cannot afford to support a child, he is sh*t of of luck.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. Yes, but they talk about "consequences" for women but never for men
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jul 2014

The one fundie I know IRL went and quietly got a vasectomy because they were struggling with 4 kids already. He didn't want his wife or his church to know.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
11. What is sad is that he didn't have the
Mon Jul 7, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

courage to stand up publicly for doing what was the right thing for his family. Talk about being a coward.

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