Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

randys1

(16,286 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:33 PM Jul 2014

Rand Paul is very very dangerous

He appeals to some 20 something liberal types who think along the same lines as to NSA and war and so on.

These 20 somethings need to know that Rand Paul would change our country to the point where it would be unrecognizable and ALL of it in bad ways.

Well if not all, 90%, sure he might do away with some spying, but what he would do to our economy and rights, wow.

There needs to be an information campaign, educating would be voters as to why Rand Paul is a viciously bad person...

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Rand Paul is very very dangerous (Original Post) randys1 Jul 2014 OP
Well, if Paul gets in power... my fellow Millennials won't have to worry about the NSA... conservaphobe Jul 2014 #1
Exactly, well said randys1 Jul 2014 #3
Around here, people who are anti war and pro civil rights have Democrats to vote for who are also Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #2
+1 nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #6
+ another Scuba Jul 2014 #16
I disagree. Wait Wut Jul 2014 #4
(Ayn) Rand Paul rustydog Jul 2014 #9
Maybe plagiarism would turn them away Politicalboi Jul 2014 #5
Easy fix for Democrats. woo me with science Jul 2014 #7
Bingo! grahamhgreen Jul 2014 #8
What he said. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #11
I do believe... sendero Jul 2014 #18
Woo me with the truth!! n/t Strelnikov_ Jul 2014 #19
Could you imagine him with a GOP super majority? Initech Jul 2014 #10
Don't take this lightly Kilgore Jul 2014 #12
My 28 yr old, extremely liberal son, is why I am worried randys1 Jul 2014 #20
Ran received a Standing ovation at Berkley Kilgore Jul 2014 #21
Yes, a dangerous fucking idiot.. who will attract other idiots. Cha Jul 2014 #13
Rand Paul is not a real Libertarian. MoonchildCA Jul 2014 #14
He ain't going anywhere madokie Jul 2014 #15
Don't disagree, but the following link should make you feel better. Dawgs Jul 2014 #17
 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
1. Well, if Paul gets in power... my fellow Millennials won't have to worry about the NSA...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jul 2014

We'll be too goddamn impoverished from our three $1 an hour jobs to be on or have time for the grid.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. Around here, people who are anti war and pro civil rights have Democrats to vote for who are also
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:41 PM
Jul 2014

anti war and pro civil rights. If other places don't have such Democrats they should find some.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
4. I disagree.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jul 2014

It's a low turnout base, to begin with, and the ones that do vote are more informed than the idiots I knew when I was their age.

I'm fairly certain the beat up, rusty 4 door Chrysler with the 'Vote Ron Paul' and 'Legalize It' bumper stickers that billowed smoke when the four occupants crawled out, contained zero threat to the Democratic party. Daddy is way cooler with the kids than Randy.

There's enough info on (Ayn)Rand Paul out there to make any twenty-something cringe.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
7. Easy fix for Democrats.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

Corporate Democrats are obsessed with Libertarians and Libertarian-leaning Republicans only because they expose those Democrats' betrayal of voters on the issues they should own. The only reason any Libertarians get attention at all is because they say some of the right things re: reining in warmongering, curbing the drug wars, and stopping the outrageous surveillance state. People do NOT like their willingness to scrap social programs and gut Social Security.

All Democrats would have to do is re-embrace the policies they were *supposed* to stand for all along. Stop the outrageous corporate war on marijuana and marijuana users. Stop pandering to the corporate One Percent with private prisons and draconian drug policies and a fascistic surveillance state. Be the party that not only ends the spying and the warmongering and the outrageous drug wars for profit, but also reins in Wall Street, restores our Constitution, reduces inequality, and STRENGTHENS social safety nets.

Those who whine about Libertarians while excusing the corporate sellout of our own party are part of the problem. Third Way Democrats would not have to worry about Libertarians at all if they would crawl out of their corporate Masters' pockets for long enough to own the issues they SHOULD own.

Initech

(100,096 posts)
10. Could you imagine him with a GOP super majority?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jul 2014

Good lord if I didn't want to defect before, that would seriously have me running for Canada ASAP. He'd take workers' rights back to the stone ages.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
12. Don't take this lightly
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 10:17 PM
Jul 2014

Recently had the opportunity to spend a few days with a group of 20 something technical professionals. I was amazed at how many were libertarians who support Rand. Not a liberal in the bunch.

The common thread was disgust with what they view as a broken system that has given them the NSA, constant war, bickering as a sport, and more than one comment wondering what happened to the promise of a transparent administration.

If they turn out, they will be a force to contend with.

Kilgore.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
20. My 28 yr old, extremely liberal son, is why I am worried
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jul 2014

He told me one day about Rand Paul and why he liked his ideas, or some of them.

I was shocked, I then reminded him what a nightmare the guy is.

If my Hunter S. Thompson worshiping son said this, I worry.

I worry that if Hunter was alive he would find some things he liked about Rand and it is that thinking that worries me..

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
14. Rand Paul is not a real Libertarian.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:02 PM
Jul 2014

In fact, there isn't a real one elected to a national office.

He's socially conservative, and that among other things, will stand out if he runs.

The young ones won't like his stance on social issues.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
15. He ain't going anywhere
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jul 2014

all he's doing is taking oxygen out of the air in the room, nothing more. His old man was just like him.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
17. Don't disagree, but the following link should make you feel better.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 08:47 AM
Jul 2014
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

20 somethings are definitely ignorant about a number of issues, but I visit this Reddit page daily, and based on the up votes they are a lot more supportive of liberals and Democrats than they are of Rand Paul.. even they many do support his libertarian positions.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Rand Paul is very very da...