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This study was apparently reported out in Feb, 2014, but it is new to me and perhaps to others. It is depressing to see the ignorance in this nation sometimes. Just ignorance of basic concepts. But then there is that legislator who thinks that Earth and Mars are the same temperature.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/earth-revolves-sun-article-1.1618715
In the survey of more than 2,200 people conducted in 2012, only 74% appeared to know basic astronomy. That means at least 550 people in the study got it wrong and it's only been 500 years since legendary astronomer and mathematician Copernicus formulated a heliocentric model of the universe that placed the sun at the center.
calimary
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Exceptionally naive, gullible, stupid, ignorant, and willfully uninformed. PROUDLY uninformed. God told them so, I guess.
Not exactly on topic but this just made me think of something: Instead of "cleanliness is next to godliness," with the GOP it's "KLAN-liness is next to godliness."
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)Willful ignorance combined with arrogance is a terrible combination.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)(like the Klan). Or the pre-1970's Mormon Church which believed in the Curse of Ham. The contemporary GOP is in truly vile company, and the worst part is they don't even know or care.
malaise
(269,054 posts)brilliant.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Of Tea Party Republicans, that is.
malaise
(269,054 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pretty much the same percentage.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)This country is doomed, stupid people are everywhere and they are multiplying!
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Stainless
(718 posts)Republicans are mostly responsible for the lack of support for education which has led to this appalling stupidity.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)of those surveyed and those who did not know about the earth orbiting (the earth is always revolving) the sun.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)I live 'merica. Everything else is on the weathergirl's map.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)resting on a tall stack of turtles.
onehandle
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kath
(10,565 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)"It's turtles all the way down."
Enthusiast
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liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)teach1st
(5,935 posts)Earth revolving around the sun is definitely tested, and we do teach to that.
littlemissmartypants
(22,694 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)RKP5637
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Mariana
(14,858 posts)I don't think so.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)How many of those 74% that got it right merely guessed correctly?
It ought to be shocking but it just isn't any more. We're profoundly anti-intellectual in this country, but it's hardly unique to the US, I fear.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)... and I imagine the results equally disturbing.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)people and dinosaurs co-existed, a guy named Noah built an ark holding two of each species, and a cold day means global warming is a myth. You can't argue with stupid.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)The IQ test is designed around 100 being average. It is the whole point of the the test.
What isn't being told is that over the years Americans are doing better at the IQ test and it has to be re-normalized every decade.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)so ignorance isn't confined by borders, nor is "American exceptionalism" simply a measure of our failings. . .
http://time.com/7809/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/
And if you follow the link to the survey's release, you'll find that the results are far more encouraging than the simple extraction of a wrong answer implies.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-02/msu-sas021314.php
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)Thanks for actually adding to the discussion!
Quantess
(27,630 posts)this I know to be true.
hatrack
(59,587 posts). . . . while at the same time voting for those who control the nukes and money.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)Go to a Soccer game in Europe and meet the hooligans.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I'm sure every last one of them is a fundamentalist Christian YEC, who believes in talking snakes and worldwide floods.
Igel
(35,320 posts)It's the kind of thing that gets asked every once in a while. Good for shock value. (Our results are higher than most other Western countries. On the other hand, while 10% believing in a geocentric model is better than 25%, it's still not a great boast. "We have fewer village idiots than America!" Big whoop.)
But the blogger didn't just stop by noting that the question had been asked before. He found the results from previous surveys and presented them. (My excellent Google skills didn't turn up the science blog, sorry.)
25% is an improvement over the last time the question was asked a few decades ago. (So when people stop and say, "Ah, the state of modern public education--just imagine, 25% think that the Sun revolves around the Earth!" the appropriate response is, "Yeah, that's not bad considering that just 30 years ago it was over 40%. Public education's gotten a lot better since then, I guess."
The #s were consistent with something like a baseline idiocy rate of perhaps 10% coupled with shoddy science education in previous decades and, at some point before that, less of a need for a high school degree. A lot of the respondents who say "geocentric rules!" were poorly educated or older. Or just very stupid. Of the 75% or so that said "heliocentric," some were clearly correct guesses--and of the 25% or so that said "geocentric" some were transient lapses. In teaching I've slipped up and said it backwards: At some point the mouth keeps running but the brain's moved on to something interesting.
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)deafskeptic
(463 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)For example, only 74 percent of those queried knew that the Earth revolved around the sun, while fewer than half (48 percent) knew that human beings developed from earlier species of animals:
littlemissmartypants
(22,694 posts)This is my vagina.
After we master anatomy can we try astronomy?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Internet search engines are replacing brains, at least the part that connects reason to memory. They may have heard it once they just can't use their brain to retrieve it and compute it.
(slight sarcasm)
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)Lots of woo-woo believers out there
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)all over again.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)A stupid lot under a microscope, indeed.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The great leap backward began with Reagan although Nixon played a major hand, too. It's harder to watch regression and the loss of knowledge than to never have it.
Back then there was an non-stop effort to end illiteracy which was largely based on poverty. Now literacy doesn't mean much anymore:
http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Eye-Opening_Highlights_From_a_Creationist_Science_Textbook
Not satire. That's a real textbook.
Ino
(3,366 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)and I see many on this thread are within that 50%!
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)My teaching experiences make me suspicious.
Common misunderstanding of words are often revealed at the root of wrong answers.
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JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)I'm being serious . . . How many of these people were home schooled under the Gothard method/philosophy?
http://michaelklonsky.blogspot.com/2009/09/republican-gomorrah.html
According to Ron Henzel, a one-time Gothard follower who coauthored a devastating expose about his former guru called A Matter of Basic Principles, under the rules, "large homeschooling families abstain from television, midwives are more important than doctors, traditional dating is forbidden, unmarried adults are 'under the authority of their parents' and live with them, divorced people can't remarry under any circumstance, and music has hardly changed at all since the late nineteenth century."
At the Charter School for Excellence, a school in South Florida inspired by Gothard's draconian principles that receives $800,000 in state funds each year, children are indoctrinated into a culture of absolute submission to authority almost as soon as they learn to speak. A song that the school's first-graders are required to recite goes as follows:
Obedience is listening attentively,
Obedience will take instructions joyfully,
Obedience heeds wishes of authorities,
Obedience will follow orders instantly.
For when I am busy at my work or play,
And someone calls my name, I'll answer right away!
I'll be ready with a smile to go the extra mile
As soon as I can say "Yes, sir!" "Yes ma am!"
Hup, two, three!
If you are not taught the most basic facts as to how the universe works - and are taught to only believe what the bible tells you, then you aren't going to know this.
Think Charter Schools aren't a problem? Think again.
dilby
(2,273 posts)I don't doubt this study at all, there are tons of dumb people in the US, hell I have met two people who have argued with me about Japan being a city in China.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)There. I fixed the headline
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)There are people who just don't care to retain some knowledge. I wonder how many of those people polled would laugh it off and say "oh, yea!". Yes, it's something taught early and you SHOULD know. But to some, these things rate low. People are funny.