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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Mon Jul 14, 2014, 04:00 AM Jul 2014

Since Putin just cancelled Cuba's debt, let's outbid him and RECOGNIZE CUBA NOW.

The Cold War is over. It's the one thing we have to give that's bigger than debt cancellation...why not just go for it?

It's time to move on.

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Since Putin just cancelled Cuba's debt, let's outbid him and RECOGNIZE CUBA NOW. (Original Post) Ken Burch Jul 2014 OP

If Obama would push against it madokie Jul 2014 #1

Yep. It's a no-brainer. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #5

It is a matter of how recognising Cuba would affect votes, not a matter or right or wrong. djean111 Jul 2014 #2

It's about time Anarcho-Socialist Jul 2014 #3

any day now, the embargo will topple the the cuban regime! we're THIS close! KG Jul 2014 #4

lol no doubt about it! Zorra Jul 2014 #8

Do you know why many Cubans in the US do not want any change malaise Jul 2014 #6

It will happen when the Castros are gone hack89 Jul 2014 #7

Both Castros are already old men. Why does it have to wait until they're gone? Ken Burch Jul 2014 #9

A clean end to one era and a clean start to another hack89 Jul 2014 #10

madokie

(51,076 posts)

1. If Obama would push against it

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 04:05 AM

Jul 2014

We'd be able to get there in short order

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)

5. Yep. It's a no-brainer.

Reply to madokie (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 07:13 AM

Jul 2014

djean111

(14,255 posts)

2. It is a matter of how recognising Cuba would affect votes, not a matter or right or wrong.

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 05:53 AM

Jul 2014

Getting votes and getting campaign contributions pretty much run the show now.

Anarcho-Socialist

(9,601 posts)

3. It's about time

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 06:12 AM

Jul 2014

Even if Obama opposes Cuba's socialist economy, how can you morally justify keeping up the embargo while being best friends with Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian junta.

KG

(28,751 posts)

4. any day now, the embargo will topple the the cuban regime! we're THIS close!

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 06:40 AM

Jul 2014

Zorra

(27,670 posts)

8. lol no doubt about it!

Reply to KG (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 09:03 AM

Jul 2014

malaise

(269,054 posts)

6. Do you know why many Cubans in the US do not want any change

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 07:17 AM

Jul 2014

Immigration policy re Cuba. They are treated differently.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

7. It will happen when the Castros are gone

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 08:21 AM

Jul 2014

then it will be possible for both countries to contemplate real changes.

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)

9. Both Castros are already old men. Why does it have to wait until they're gone?

Reply to hack89 (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 11:57 AM

Jul 2014

It's not as if that counts as a win.

The Cuban Revolution happened because the Cuban people wanted it(whether or not they wanted the repression). It wasn't created by Fidel and Che and Raul out of nothing.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

10. A clean end to one era and a clean start to another

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:17 PM

Jul 2014

I understand the Cuban people wanted the revolution. That doesn't mean they wanted 50 years of one man / one party rule. There can be no meaningful political change in Cuba until the Castros are dead.

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