I sent my snail mail letter last week. I sent a copy to my local HFS, too.

...but I tried some of their products many years ago, and all were nasty.

and beieve me, I tried!

There are too many Eden brand cans of food on the shelves here. I have to admit I earlier bought Caribbean rice and Cajun rice as I like that kind of food and wish they would pick up more Zatarains or something of the like instead. Winco stopped carrying Zatarain's frozen dinners and noone else carries them around here. Haven't checked to see if Winco has carried Eden foods or not, but if they do, perhaps they would also be a good target to participate being in the boycott, being an employee owned store where I'm sure there would be more votes to support boycotts of anti-employee rights being practiced by the likes of Eden Food and Hobby Lobby.

I stopped shopping at Whole Foods the minute I learned they had cut employees hours to avoid paying for the PPACA insurance.

Won't let me sign. Only accepts American zipcodes and I'm in Canada. Bummer, they have Eden organic products at our local store and I often buy their beans and I wanted to sign the petition.

I'm not terribly familiar with the process, but it seems like there should be a way!

was founded on the idea of , "impeach Clinton and change the subject, already!" But if there's a way to setup a Canada petition...

http://www.edenfoods.com/contact/

I don't like being on mailing lists. If it allowed me to opt out, I would have signed it gladly.

cretins at the helm.

Amy's still at talk stage it appears

"We are pleased to announce that as of March 1, 2012, Amy’s has completely transitioned to cans using no BPA in the formulation of its liner. Even though BPA is omnipresent in the environment from a multitude of sources, testing levels on our canned products with the new liner are showing reduced BPA levels of less than 1 part per billion."

You ugly rudeness is really unwarranted. Why was that necessary?

What do they can that isn't like, beans?

I ask because it's one of my pet peeves, I don't buy canned beans. We always cooked beans and rice and everything else on the stove. When I was living on my own, I bought a crock pot from the thrift store, and dried beans were no problem. I dated someone who taught me how to crock pot decent chili, and refried beans work better when you dump boiled dried beans into a frying pan full of browned onions, some garlic and an excess of oil.

I get that canned beans can save time, but a pound of dried beans, water and electricity is pretty cheap. Or am I missing something?

It isn't easy, it isn't quick.

Tinned beans are a lifesaver at 7000 feet.

I DO cook some beans, with a pressure cooker, but it's really a PITA, so I save it for when I have a big batch to do.

wistfully,
Bright

but I get what you mean. I knew someone back when I was cooking who had a restaurant way up high somewhere. She told me that she'd actually bought a commercial pressure cooker (I have no idea, and I was a professional sous-chef at the time.) and she would freeze 20#...you know those big metal trays you see as chafing dishes on buffets? She'd freeze trays of beans and trays of bean boiling water, multiple trays, enough to last a month. She knew when business was good when whe'd have to unpack the pressure cooker earlier than she'd planned.

I have no idea, and every family has to find it's own way. My ex- had ways of dealing with high altitude ass-feeding but that was 30+ years ago. Me, if it's too annoying, I'd get the family to eat lentil soup. As far as I know, you just boil it longer, onions, garlic, and maybe grate some cheese on top. But that's me.

Best wishes.

But navies, kidneys, blacks, anasazis, garbanzos... If I just want a few to add to a salad or a "one pot" dish for the two of us, good tinned beans are the best option.

A couple of times a year I get out the pressure cooker to do a big batch of navies for baked beans (they freeze okay,) or pintos for refritos or some picnic/potluck contribution.

But there's plenty of legit uses for tinned beans, even at lower altitudes. My seven-bean chili recipe, for instance, worked best with tinned beans because of the differing cooking times-- I could do kidneys and cannelinis together, and pintos with blacks (although the pintos almost always came out a bit mushier than I like,) but the garbanzos, calicos, and blackeyes didn't play real well with others.

You can do multi-bean SOUPS fine, because with soups, hey, the mushier the better. But if you want the beans to retain body, do you wanna be cooking five or six separate batches, just to make one batch of chili? Not me.

I've always used tinned beans for this and that. Very useful to have around.

Not Eden, though. Allergic to seaweed.

amiably,
Bright

Some retain taste but the texture goes all mushy from the freezing. And some just seem to get all bland and starchy and lose their "individuality."

While tinned beans aren't always as good as fresh-prepared cooked dried beans, most do seem to keep more of their flavor and texture.

And we have a good recycling program for the tins. Which makes them actually a bit less worrisome than plastic freezer bags/containers. I do re-use plastic freezer bags but they only go so far, and at some point, they enter the waste stream.

For such a progressive, environmentally-conscious community, our local recycling program sucks on plastic.

philosophically,
Bright

plus, I like aduki beans which can sometimes be hard to find dried. Edens sells them canned.

Fortunately they are popular with the Indians who call them Chori or Red Chori and we have an excellent Indian grocer a couple miles away.


2-3 minutes in my reasonably sized pressure cooker and I have fresh beans. We use the pressure cooker about three times a week and only make a reasonable amount at a time. Last night it was fresh black beans and tomorrow it will be chickpeas.

.... but if you are cooking for 1 or 2, even a half pound of beans is way more than you need. Unless you like eating leftover beans for days and days.

Dried beans have a shelf life of about a year, 2 at absolute max. Canned beans will last indefinitely (I've personally eaten 7 year old beans from a can, indistinguishable from 2 weeks old.)

If you are feeding a family or having guests, a nice batch of dried beans is great, but for everyday use I prefer canned.

Cans. I'd rather make string telephones than throw them away So I buy dry. Luckily my elevation is not 7K feet.

Love, Peace and Shelter. Lmsp

A churn, a little elbow grease, voila. Much cheaper and no containers to throw away. Don't get me started on washing machines. Such waste. A washboard and tub is all you need. And what's with knitting and sewing going out of fashion? Such a shame people don't make their own clothes anymore. Why buy that sweater when you can knit one? Time? What is that?

Yes - I understand that alot of guys go organic but it's usually the women who do the grocery shopping, and it's usually the women that decide to feed her family organic foods.

Petitions or no petitions, they will feel this in their pocketbooks. And then they will probably blame it on Obama's "lousy economy".

A lot of guys go organic, and most of those guys are liberals. More to the point, I the vast majority of the people buying their products are liberals.

A company that publicly engages in attacks on women and hippie-punching while trying to market to liberals probably isn't going to end well.

It'd be like Alpo engaging in a "Fuck Dogs, Amirite?!" publicity stunt.

....what the hell we're they thinking?! As word spreads this is going to become a public relations nightmare of epic proportions for Eden.

Most Hobby Lobby customers are craftsy, middle class, white, exburb, suburb types, who don't mind the overt, commercial christianity their famous for, so no serious harm done there. But Eden? Are they F'n stupid, or what?!

I don't want my nephew's girlfriends getting pregnant, and, I mean, my Mom's a woman, even if she's not havin' any babys anymore...

usually the women that do the grocery shopping and make the decision to go organic for their family.
And these very women are boycotting Eden products.

I know you guys are right there with us and you are appreciated more than you know.

I was just being general about grocery shopping.

on my ledger, and I still have debts to pay from back when AIDS was GRID.

I've said lots of stuff that was misunderstood, or worse, understood all too well. Divide and conquer only works when we're really, really stupid.

I'm male. I used to buy Eden's malt syrup. Cheaper than going to a beer store for malt, but won't buy it anymore until they change their ways. Like said above, who do they think buys their shit?

Seems like progressives are a bit more in tune with the world than the bosses running their company...

I've been a loyal Eden customer for about a decade, but switched to other options the day I found out about their suit.

It's a (mostly) upper middle-class, white consumer movement. Many organic consumers buy organic out of health concerns. Health claims are not political.

Some people on the left think they're sticking it to Big Business by buying organic. This is laughable, of course. Organic is very big business indeed. Others on the left associate organic with environmentalism. While this association is certainly a selling point for liberals, it's not an "anti-" selling point for conservatives.

And on the other hand, "organic" isn't just a category of farm practices. It can also be a highly zealous lifestyle. This zealotry is concordant with religious zealotry.

Here's an example from a fringe right-wing site about "organic preppers" (needless to say, I don't endorse any of the garbage found on this site):
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-organic-prepper_112012

Otherwise, I'll probably have to order wheat free soy sauce by the case from Japan.

I can get mine at Ralph's (Kroegers) in the international section. There are also coconut aminos which many people like if you want something soy-free as well.

http://www.san-j.com/product_info.asp?id=3

Even if Eden Foods backs off on contraception, I still won't buy anything from religious whackjobs. There are plenty of great small companies out there.

order for you. Back in the day, jobbers would order a case on "trial" and split it up among 3-4 little tiny stores. This is how Chinatown stores learned how to stock Holsum bread when I was a kid.

If that doesn't work, Google is your friend.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wheat%20free%20soy%20sauce&sprefix=wheat+free+s%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awheat%20free%20soy%20sauce

https://www.google.com/search?q=wheat+free+soy+sauce&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=sb#channel=sb&q=wheat+free+soy+sauce&rls=org.mozilla:en-US fficial&safe=off&tbm=shop

who oppose this attack on women refuse to purchase anything from the haters.

He refers to Union workers as "parasites". Direct quote. Founder and CEO John Mackey. I've never shopped there and I never will. I'm a Union worker and proud of it. 30 years. Eden Foods and Whole Foods can go F* Off!

Fuck them both and their overpriced greenwashing.

around here, and I can sum it up in one word, overpriced.

Much prefer our local chains, which source as much local food and products as possible and whose workers are represented by the SEIU.

We don't talk about his union membership much, all I know is that he's VERY against the idea of going to stores like Wal Mart, especially for groceries. The stores I'm talking about aren't small, but are family owned, and I believe they have no non-union jobs, most represented by either the UFCW or the SEIU.

http://www.ufcw.org/industries/retail-food/schnuck-markets-inc/

I mostly go to Schnucks, but we also have both Dierbergs and Shop n' Save and we shop at those occasionally, all are union shops. There's only one Whole Foods location in all of our metro area, the only other national chain we have is Aldi's as far as I'm aware of, and they aren't a direct competitor due to the size of their stores.

The thing is this, we have Walmart supercenters and Target Supercenters, and honestly, none can compete with our 3 local chains in pricing for food or location, particularly the basics. Outside of that, we have several smaller grocers in the area, some with multiple locations, most are speciality, for example Italian or French cuisine, others opening in various "food deserts" where they are trying to capitalize on our big 3's neglect for certain locations. I don't know how many are represented by unions, I do know a couple are co-ops but can't remember their names offhand.

Doesnt take a genius to figure out that this would not turn out well for them.

What kind of FOOD company will express ANY political opinion? It's fucking FOOD!

What gets me is that somehow Eden Foods has become "Catholic Food". Or "Republican Food". Really?

The level of human stupid is amazing, and what's the worst thing of all is that November is coming up and we're distracted by this crap. I am just as guilty and stupid as anyone fighting Hillery's nomination in FUCKING JULY 2014.

Really, what the fuck am I doing here?

Ha ah...all the remarks by conservatives that they will buy more Eden foods to make up the difference really do make me smile.

It's not like chick fil a. They already liked chicken. Now they will have to like soy! And lots of it!

Until all this I had never heard of Eden Foods. Even then I thought it was a store like Whole Foods. Out here in the hinterlands we are not in their markets, so I can't boycott, but I can support those that do.

Eden doesn't grow the food they sell, they buy the raw materials from organic farmers. What happens to these farmers when Eden has to cut back what they buy from them due to the boycott?

It's not that I'm against the boycott, I think it's necessary. I just wonder about the repercusions for the suppliers who do the growing.

Its a growing market and Eden isn't the only natural foods business out there.

A tomato is a tomato and a bean is a bean. Other compaies will buy them.

Because I don't buy their stuff.

They put seaweed in their canned beans, and I'm allergic to it. And the other products of theirs that I have tried are... unexciting at best and in some cases just awful.

I've mentioned it to the co-op I shop at several times: "Please stock alternative choices to stuff made by these folks." They're getting better at it, but their supplier apparently has a huge contract with them.

Maybe this will shake lose some better selection on the co-op shelves.

hopefully,
Bright

We'll never buy them again. The damage is done, regardless of what they do going forward. The SCOTUS has rendered it's decision. (Two vegans here, who were to now regular consumers if their products.)

To stop carrying Eden foods products.

GE is a union company to boot. Going to find out their union's info and write them too.

are useless???? I probably sign a dozen a day. Sometimes my friends and relatives do too.

They make mostly organic and healthy foods. Now I'm not saying that Conservative people don't eat healthy or buy organic food, but in the end it's the progressive side that can be more food conscious when doing their grocery shopping. I know I prefer organic for most of my food choices but I shop Trader Joes since their prices are much more reasonable.

SO why would Edenfood, which caters towards intelligent shoppers who read labels and want to buy healthier food choices want to piss off the majority of people who do just that? To me it seems to make no sense. You think about how conscious the people at Edenfoods have been with trying to put out non-GMO products and ensuring BPA is not used in their canning. For the Low IQ Conservative voters - this is stuff that means nothing to them. Heck they support politicians who want to classify Pizza Sauce as a vegetable. But for label conscious voters it's not like Edenfood is the only company out there that makes these kinds of products. And if they think intelligent, smart, label-reading, healthy eating and progressive minded shoppers aren't going to notice EdenFoods' CEO Stance on Birth Control well someone is a fool and it's not the people boycotting Edenfood products.

But lucky for me, Edenfoods isn't the only player out there in the organic healthy food business

into organic and health foods. Our local natural/health food place here in Riverside, CA is run by a virulently anti-government, Obama-hating family, and the big health food store near my friend's place in Ventura gave a bunch of money to the Prop 8 cause.

Now I don't shop at either establishment.

But the are probably far outnumbered by the left.

And if you think of your typical conservative voter who lives by Faux News and Tea Party Rallies. I doubt they shop healhty.

GMO free, pesticide free, etc. For instance, have you ever read the label on a Dr. Bronner's magic soap? (I have no idea whether their company is a hypocrite about birth control for women or not, but they sure seem to be guided by religion!)

I have a RW christian homesteader on facebook. A marginal friend from high school. She desperately wanted babies to have someone to love, so she went to night clubs and had sex with random dudes to get pregnant. 4 kids with 4 different fathers.

Fast forward 20 years after we last saw eachother: She is married, is RW christian, loves her semi-automatic weapons, despises Obama, recently posted something negative about slutty behavior in women (one reason she is against feminism is that she does not want to reward "slutty behavior&quot , and runs a small organic homesteading business (organic beauty products).
She looks great, her children seem like upstanding young adults, and I admire her for her passion for small farm / small business, anti-GMO, organics. I can't help but think she is a giant hypocrite, but as they say, nobody's perfect.

But imagine your typical Tea Party Rally? Those people are probably grocery shopping at Wal-Mart where they can buy cheap processed foods while carrying their semi-automatic rifles.

is mostly liberal. However, I don't think the ideas are mutually exclusive, at all. A Christian fundie can be just as much of a health enthusiast as anyone else. Are they fools because they support republicans, against their own interests? Yes.

w/o a qualm.

When I signed the petition, there were only 2,000 signatures.

Not that that is nothing new. But they don't understand the issue and how it came about. The ACA includes a mandate that INSURANCE COMPANIES must cover contraception. Prior to ACA, they were not (states set the minimum requirements, but no state dare make that a requirement). That included employer plans. There was no deliberate attack against employers' first amendment right. It was an unintended consequence in revising insurance regulations. The mandate still stands for insurance companies. They have to offer birth control coverage for those who want it. Anyway, the point is that Obama was not trying to shove anything down the throats of employers or violate their 1st. amendment rights. It was about regulating insurance companies.

Just signed the petition. Sure, it puts you on a mailing list, which you can then opt out of. So no problem there.

Also e-mailed Eden Foods, for all the good that will do.

Also e-mailed my local food co-op.

Trying to get a chain grocery to do anything would be fruitless, I think.

Thanks for the thread, xchrom.