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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/17/mn-gop-candidate-knocked-up-women-dont-deserve-dinner-dancing-at-their-wedding/A Republican candidate for a seat in the Minnesota House of Representatives is being criticized for outrageous statements about mothers-to-be she posted on her right-wing blog.
Sheila Kihne hopes to unseat state Rep. Jenifer Loon (R-Eden Prairie), who she claims is insufficiently conservative to represent the district. People want a choice, Kihne told Minnesota Public Radio. I was at a point where I felt like I couldnt vote for (Loon).
On a blog she discontinued in 2009, she wrote that President Barack Obama was leading the one-world-order communists and demanded that single mothers be denied formal wedding ceremonies.
Dont you think that if youre having a baby and youre not married that you should forego the shower? she asked. I also think that if you get married and are knocked up you should get married quietly. At a courthouse, at a private home.
Kihne specifically said that there should be no dancing or dinner for prospective brides who are pregnant. She acknowledge that Im seen as very cold-hearted with this issue and its caused a couple of big arguments in my family, but insisted on standing her ground against the idiots in Hollywood who make it look cool to tote a baby around sans daddy.
In that same post, she complains that an unwed mother included a portable DVD-player on her Target registry, addressing a complaint about the extravagant lives of people who are below her station. On her Twitter account, she posts photographs accompanied by outraged comments of what she is watching on television:
Video and more at link.
Oh boy are the crazies coming out here in MN!
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Zero compassion. Blech.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)don't give a hoot if you're unmarried and pregnant.They want to make money. Sounds like a job killing plan to me.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Sheila Kihne.
Thank you! Thank you! I'll be here all week. Try the beef and don't forget to tip your waitress.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Heckuva job Repubs, heckuva job!
big_dog
(4,144 posts)the wingnut fringe
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)stop people from having weddings.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Just like the town in "Footloose" before Kevin Bacon came along and screwed up things for everybody.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I bet she's a Lutheran (Wisconsin Synod).
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)and I would not be surprised in the least.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)My mother was one of those.
MrsMatt
(1,660 posts)My WELS mother was told by her pastor she would go to hell for marrying my LCA (now ELCA) Lutheran father.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)I am a lapsed Catholic. Don't know whether Pope Francis represents a real change or not. The LCMS kicked out my aunt for divorcing a man who beat her up. My mom used to say stuff like this Kilne women. I was thinking that is why some thought her Lutheran. She has changed alot since I was a teen, so I figure she was repeating what she was taught.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Right after 9/11, you might recall that there was a ecumenical prayer service at Yankee Stadium. On the dais were representatives of all faiths, including a Rabbi and an Iman. Also up there was a Missouri Synod pastor. Well, the LCMS very nearly defrocked the guy for having the audacity to pray with people of other faiths.
And the WELS thinks the LCMS is "too liberal" for their taste.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)There is an LCMS church near where I used to live and the preacher divorced his wife and then several years later married a member of the congregation. (His first wife was bi-polar and refused to take her medication.)
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)She moved to another town and joined another LCMS church. The brain washing is strong. She is a biblical literalist and quite conservative herself. Yet while she lived in her home town it was the elca that welcomed her to fold and stood by her.
The new LCMS church that she joined had a very Catholic type Pedophile scandal, whereby a new preacher was moved in that sexually abused some of the children in the school. He had been moved from another congregation over sex abuse complaints. She quit going to church but still believes alot of that stuff. Pastors can get away with many things ordinary people can't get away with. A prison conviction was the only thing that stopped him.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,838 posts)So there you are. I always think of Lutherans as being relatively liberal - and the ELCA is - but WELS makes Southern Baptists look progressive.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)My bet is Wels wasn't as conservative in the past. I think the education of many Lutherans at known fundy schools like Oral Roberts is a form of steeplejacking. The LCMS were taken over by fundamentalist in the late 60s. It was process very similar to what happened to the SBC in the 70s. They were on the road to unifying the elca up to that point.
betterdemsonly
(1,967 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Thanks for the link. I saw that she's Catholic.
JVS
(61,935 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Doesn't matter if they win or lose, they still get attention.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Always the unwed mother.
At least if they are having a wedding, he must be assuming responsibility for the baby. Beats the ones who drop a sperm and disappear.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Agreed.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)They "counsel" this unwed mother to have the baby. And they're the ones who applaud her boss to deny her access to birth control in the first place. But when she follows her advice, gets pregnant and then gets married, she gets spit on by these hypocrites. And yes, no mention of the father's place in all of this. Just targeting the woman.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)hypocrites
maxrandb
(15,355 posts)It told her so in the Bible
These people are "effing" nuts. They shouldn't be allowed to use a knife and fork, let alone be in a position of power
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)those knocked up pregos write a book about sex in a tent and go on Dancing with the .Stars to make big bucks?
Rep family values.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)But they still can't get married and have a nice reception.
ismnotwasm
(42,011 posts)"sans" daddy?? FFS.
Initech
(100,102 posts)Awesome swing band.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Yavin4
(35,445 posts)Am I right?
From her website:
There are so many couples wanting children, we must do better.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)How can people be so damn clueless?
Hey, why don't all these childless couples adopt the millions of children in this country who don't have a family? Too old? Not the right skin color? HYPOCRITES!!!!
get the red out
(13,468 posts)She is so arrogant in publicly assuming she knows what other should do at their weddings, baby showers, or in raising their kids; that I would imagine her own family suffers for her angry disposition despite her assumed superiority.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)More than likely, no one. We are not always privy to why women break away from the baby daddy, but more than likely, being single means more of a financial struggle.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)Seriously.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)YCMIU
GoCubsGo
(32,093 posts)Yuk. Only a self-righteous busybody would give a shit what anyone does regarding their wedding, pregnant or not. The real revolting thing is the bunch of people who are actually going to vote for this crackpot.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)get delaying a wedding until after the baby is born and then wearing white, but that is just me. I'm not about to go around and tell some bride and groom how they ought to manage their actual ceremony, especially if no one asks me.
I do have an opinion, and I understand that it is just my opinion. I don't think I should be the one establishing all the rules.
A DVD player on the Target registry is a very sensible request, also in my humble opinion.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)if white were the color of virgins, my best bet is they would sell maybe a 1000 white dresses a year
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)and you were raised in an era when pregnant brides were expected to behave the way this candidate indicated. There was so much focus on the white=virginal back then. The wearing white thing was often a lie, but no matter. People could pretend that the woman was as pure as driven snow because it mattered to them. That facade was slipping even in the late '60s but I think it took until the '80s for that white/virgin thing to be ignored by most, save for those who were highly religious or highly 'traditional.'
As to delaying the wedding, I've known couples who delayed it until after the baby was born either for both practical (morning sickness, or other pregnancy discomforts) or emotional (by delaying it until after the child was born, the child would understand that they married because they wanted to, not because they HAD to.)
But more importantly, as you said, having opinions about white dresses and delayed weddings isn't the same as having the right to dictate how others should handle it.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)I was a little concerned that others here would jump all over me. Sometimes I wish I could be Dictator of North America, and even though I actually feel somewhat strongly on this topic, I fully recognize that my opinion here is somewhat in a minority. In short, there are a lot more important things for me to worry about than whether a bride is pregnant at her wedding and such.
HangOnKids
(4,291 posts)Dictator of North America? Please. BYE!
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)alp227
(32,052 posts)no respect for women who gave birth out of wedlock "because illegitimacy"...sheesh, right wingers want de facto sharia law or something?
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Especially no war waged by the GOP.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)The punishment never ends.
The family values types don't want people to have families, apparently.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Is she entitled to a nice wedding?
If these Republicans are going to establish themselves as social arbiters, they'll have to cover all the bases.
PumpkinAle
(1,210 posts)If only tv had been around then.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,838 posts)PumpkinAle
(1,210 posts)King James Bible
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,838 posts)According to this writer, by Jewish custom Mary and Joseph were considered married.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Joseph-and-Mary.html
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's starting to rival Florida in the bat-shit-crazy department.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)I think it's because the DFL (MN's Democratic Party) controls both houses and the governor's mansion. It's driving the GOOPers wild.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)I always remembered it being a wealthy but moderate suburban place. They shouldn't tolerate this level of right wing lunacy.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Taxes and all that, don't you know.
Plus they have the giant Wooddale Church there.