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MH17 Black Box Sent to Moscow for Investigation
MOSCOW A Malaysian Boeing 777 carrying 295 people on board was shot down by a surface-to-air missile outside the mining town of Shakhtersk in eastern Ukraine on Thursday, an area controlled by rebels. Ukrainian, Russian, and pro-Russian rebel officials all confirmed that a missile had taken down the plane. It fell from a height of more than 10,600 meters; everybody on board, including dozens of children and 15 members of the crew, died in the catastrophe.
Pieces of the plane, human remains, passports, and money were spread in a radius of 15 kilometers around the catastrophe in the region of Grabovo and Rassypnaya, experts of Russian ministry of emergency affairs (MCHS) and witnesses reported. During the first few hours of the rescue operation, rebel militia discovered remains of over 100 people. There were no Russian citizens among the victims. The black box from the airplane traveled to Moscow for investigation, Russian radio Kommersant FM reported.
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As for an investigation, the crash site has already been contaminated by local forces. There will be an international outcry, if, as reported, the black box is on its way to Moscow.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/17/mh17-black-box-sent-to-moscow-for-investigation.html
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)Time for the entire world to reign him in.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)flamingdem
(39,321 posts)had better behave ..
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I remember during the Crimea annexation when he seemed clueless about what was happening on the ground. I'm not sure if his advisers tell him everything he needs to know.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)"Murderers Seize, Hide Evidence."
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)It's a shame that there will never be a valid investigation of this. It's a shame for the victims and the families, who deserve justice.
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)Seems like the trend it to blame Putin's people.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)or Putin are going to be truthful in their findings? How ridiculous is it that the most likely perpetrators, none of whom know diddly squat about how to investigate airliner crashes properly, are the ones controlling the site and pulling out the black boxes?
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)wondering because there are some here who are fairly protective of Pootie and/or cynical about the media
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)According to them, RT is the only truthful news media outlet.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)well, reputable news sources, they are waiting until they have some facts. Some however are asking the question 'Cui Bono'? Whoever can answer that will have the answer to who did it.
The US Corporate Media, never known for their reliance on facts, or for actual investigative journalism, however is 'implying' it must be 'putin's people'. How they know this so soon, is a mystery to many people. Chrystal ball maybe, or some other magical device because it sure isn't the evidence, as there is none, YET.
Cha
(297,655 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Taking credit for downing the jet when they still thought it was an An-26.
Takket
(21,625 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)I think they're lying.
flvegan
(64,414 posts)Igel
(35,356 posts)The only caveat is that they say "any black boxes that shall be found":
Сейчас к месту катастрофы выехала комиссия, все "черные ящики", которые будут обнаружены, мы готовы передать международным инстанциям для того, чтобы было проведено тщательное расследование", - сказал Пушилин.
"A commission is heading to the catastrophe site now. We are prepared to turn over all 'black boxes' that will be found to the international agencies for conducting a careful investigation," Pushilin said.
Strictly speaking, that doesn't cover previously found black boxes. Or that the organizational structure of the "republic" is moderately loose, with factions and commanders that don't always quite behave.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Question is the chain of command. I wouldn't be surprised if the data somehow became "unrecoverable." Or maybe the ACAS alarms will suddenly be activated, indicating "another plane in the vicinity." (Favorite Putinist theory, propagated by a Spanish speaking air traffic controller in Kiev, is that Ukrainian jets shot it down.)
flamingdem
(39,321 posts)At least he can work with a shred of doubt that way